Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?

[Godular]

At least you're honest about not giving a shit about the human after it is born.

Scratch that. Your argument is terrible.

Right to life does not trump bodily sovereignty.

No such thing as bodily sovereignty.

Yes there is. See the US constitution for starters. Stop living in a dream where your opinion and only your opinion should be forced on everyone else for advanced level.

[Redsection]

No such thing as bodily sovereignty.

Yes there is. See the US constitution for starters. Stop living in a dream where your opinion and only your opinion should be forced on everyone else for advanced level.

I'm not,in the end your body is no more special than anyone else's.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Pro-choice. The future of a clump of cells does not trump an adult's bodily sovereignty.

Though I believe there is an argument to be made for outlawing abortion once the fetus is viable outside the womb.

[Ouldale IRL Political Views]

Imma just say it. Evictionism.

*drops mic*

[Godular]

Yes there is. See the US constitution for starters. Stop living in a dream where your opinion and only your opinion should be forced on everyone else for advanced level.

I'm not,in the end your body is no more special than anyone else's.

You say this as if it supports your position and counters mine. This is mistaken.

This is in point of fact exactly WHY women should be able to access abortion services on demand. A fetus is not some special flower that deserves more rights than the woman within which it resides and from whom it takes resources. If all are to be held as equal, then forcing the woman to carry a pregnancy against her will is violating that equality.

[Stellonia]

I'm not,in the end your body is no more special than anyone else's.

You say this as if it supports your position and counters mine. This is mistaken.

This is in point of fact exactly WHY women should be able to access abortion services on demand. A fetus is not some special flower that deserves more rights than the woman within which it resides and from whom it takes resources. If all are to be held as equal, then forcing the woman to carry a pregnancy against her will is violating that equality.

Death or the deprivation of bodily sovereignty for nine months? Which sounds worse to you?

[Platypus Reborn]

You say this as if it supports your position and counters mine. This is mistaken.

This is in point of fact exactly WHY women should be able to access abortion services on demand. A fetus is not some special flower that deserves more rights than the woman within which it resides and from whom it takes resources. If all are to be held as equal, then forcing the woman to carry a pregnancy against her will is violating that equality.

Death or the deprivation of bodily sovereignty for nine months? Which sounds worse to you?

Its not death, its just a clump of cells, it doesn't feel. Now, if your several months into the abortion and people can visibly tell that your pregnant, that's where I have to draw the line.

[Neutraligon]

You say this as if it supports your position and counters mine. This is mistaken.

This is in point of fact exactly WHY women should be able to access abortion services on demand. A fetus is not some special flower that deserves more rights than the woman within which it resides and from whom it takes resources. If all are to be held as equal, then forcing the woman to carry a pregnancy against her will is violating that equality.

Death or the deprivation of bodily sovereignty for nine months? Which sounds worse to you?

Bodily sovereignty.

[Godular]

You say this as if it supports your position and counters mine. This is mistaken.

This is in point of fact exactly WHY women should be able to access abortion services on demand. A fetus is not some special flower that deserves more rights than the woman within which it resides and from whom it takes resources. If all are to be held as equal, then forcing the woman to carry a pregnancy against her will is violating that equality.

Death or the deprivation of bodily sovereignty for nine months? Which sounds worse to you?

Deprivation of Bodily Sovereignty for any length of time at all. Saying otherwise is excusing rape, slavery, and forced organ harvesting.

Liberty or death, dude. Liberty or death.

[Godular]

Death or the deprivation of bodily sovereignty for nine months? Which sounds worse to you?

Its not death, its just a clump of cells, it doesn't feel. Now, if your several months into the abortion and people can visibly tell that your pregnant, that's where I have to draw the line.

By that point the woman has already decided to keep the pregnancy anyway.

[Arach-Naga Combine]

Death or the deprivation of bodily sovereignty for nine months? Which sounds worse to you?

Its not death, its just a clump of cells, it doesn't feel. Now, if your several months into the abortion and people can visibly tell that your pregnant, that's where I have to draw the line.

Fucking hell - why is your abortion taking months? Who the hell is your doctor?

[Sun Wukong]

Such a thing to be proud of. So...what consequences do the men have for their being a slut?

Well let's see since women always pull my body my choice,but if men agree with the abortion they receive a fine as well.

Ah, so thoughtcrime.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Its not death, its just a clump of cells, it doesn't feel. Now, if your several months into the abortion and people can visibly tell that your pregnant, that's where I have to draw the line.

Fucking hell - why is your abortion taking months? Who the hell is your doctor?

There's been a long line, since Comrade Sanders socialized the healthcare system and put a Soviet Abortion Dispensary in every village and town in America.

[Luziyca]

Its not death, its just a clump of cells, it doesn't feel. Now, if your several months into the abortion and people can visibly tell that your pregnant, that's where I have to draw the line.

Fucking hell - why is your abortion taking months? Who the hell is your doctor?

The doctor is using a method tested on getting guinea worms out of your leg: rolling the fetus out of the belly by stick. It takes only a few weeks for guinea worms, but much longer for fetuses.

You should stop going to back alley abortion clinics and brave the crowds of protesters to get to a legit abortion clinic.

[Wallenburg]

Fucking hell - why is your abortion taking months? Who the hell is your doctor?

There's been a long line, since Comrade Sanders socialized the healthcare system and put a Soviet Abortion Dispensary in every village and town in America.

[Ardavia]

You say this as if it supports your position and counters mine. This is mistaken.

This is in point of fact exactly WHY women should be able to access abortion services on demand. A fetus is not some special flower that deserves more rights than the woman within which it resides and from whom it takes resources. If all are to be held as equal, then forcing the woman to carry a pregnancy against her will is violating that equality.

Death or the deprivation of bodily sovereignty for nine months? Which sounds worse to you?

Bodily sovereignty.

[TestIsland]

There's been a long line, since Comrade Sanders socialized the healthcare system and put a Soviet Abortion Dispensary in every village and town in America.

Probably slightly better than Emperor Trump waiting for the Mexicans to pay so that you can bleed out of your wherever...

[Ifreann]

now that youre back perhaps you would like to explain what you mean by "heavily regulated".

Mothers pay a thousand dollar fine to the government for choosing to abort,state approved and hired surgeons are only allowed to perform the operations,planned parenthood and the likes are merged into one company and state owned.

So I was right.

[Lechites]

Yes there is. See the US constitution for starters. Stop living in a dream where your opinion and only your opinion should be forced on everyone else for advanced level.

I'm not,in the end your body is no more special than anyone else's.

But it is your choice to do so with it. If you say bodily sovereignty doesn't exist then I have free reign to do to your body anything that I wish, whether it affects your quality of life or in cases chance to die from.

[Dyakovo]

You say this as if it supports your position and counters mine. This is mistaken.

This is in point of fact exactly WHY women should be able to access abortion services on demand. A fetus is not some special flower that deserves more rights than the woman within which it resides and from whom it takes resources. If all are to be held as equal, then forcing the woman to carry a pregnancy against her will is violating that equality.

Death or the deprivation of bodily sovereignty for nine months? Which sounds worse to you?

Deprivation of bodily sovereignty.

[Izzyshipper]

Both, I suppose. You should, within reason, be able to pursue an abortion if you deem it necessary. However as a general rule it should be avoided as much as possible.

[Ashmoria]

Both, I suppose. You should, within reason, be able to pursue an abortion if you deem it necessary. However as a general rule it should be avoided as much as possible.

the only requirement to being pro-choice is that you leave the decision to the pregnant woman. what you like and don't like and what you think you would decide for yourself aren't important to the definition.

[Jamzmania]

Death or the deprivation of bodily sovereignty for nine months? Which sounds worse to you?

Its not death, its just a clump of cells, it doesn't feel. Now, if your several months into the abortion and people can visibly tell that your pregnant, that's where I have to draw the line.

And what a truly arbitrary line that is. People who support abortion really do go by the "out of sight, out of mind" mantra--if you can't see it, it's fine. I mean, it's just a clump of cells, but then, aren't we all just clumps of cells?

[Godular]

Its not death, its just a clump of cells, it doesn't feel. Now, if your several months into the abortion and people can visibly tell that your pregnant, that's where I have to draw the line.

And what a truly arbitrary line that is. People who support abortion really do go by the "out of sight, out of mind" mantra--if you can't see it, it's fine. I mean, it's just a clump of cells, but then, aren't we all just clumps of cells?

We're not clumps of cells that are inherently violating the bodily sovereignty of other humans.

Important distinction, that.

[Jamzmania]

And what a truly arbitrary line that is. People who support abortion really do go by the "out of sight, out of mind" mantra--if you can't see it, it's fine. I mean, it's just a clump of cells, but then, aren't we all just clumps of cells?

We're not clumps of cells that are inherently violating the bodily sovereignty of other humans.

Important distinction, that.

Pregnancy is a completely natural process that the female human body is, in fact, designed for.