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Postby Manchuria » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:50 pm

はい、やはり生徒は生徒です。

日本ではピザの上にトウモロコシを入れますね。実は私はそれが好きです。皆さんはどうやって思いますか。
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Postby Manchuria » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:57 pm

NERVUNさん、知りたいことがありますよ。

まだアメリカの市民権者じゃないですか。アメリカの選挙で投票しますか。難しいですか。
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Postby Gigaverse » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:25 pm

Manchuria wrote:やはり

やはり・・・? :<
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Postby Manchuria » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:39 pm

Gigaverse wrote:
Manchuria wrote:やはり

やはり・・・? :<

It's sort of like "of course," or "as expected."
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Postby Gigaverse » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:47 pm

Manchuria wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:やはり・・・? :<

It's sort of like "of course," or "as expected."

きゅん~ ❤
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Postby NERVUN » Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:56 pm

Manchuria wrote:はい、やはり生徒は生徒です。

日本ではピザの上にトウモロコシを入れますね。実は私はそれが好きです。皆さんはどうやって思いますか。

I've said before and will say again. Japanese pizza toppings are evil. If you come here and order the special, you HAVE been warned!

Manchuria wrote:NERVUNさん、知りたいことがありますよ。

まだアメリカの市民権者じゃないですか。アメリカの選挙で投票しますか。難しいですか。

はい、僕はアメリカ国人です。11月に投票する、でも誰が分からない。
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Postby Northern Freikur » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:21 pm

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Postby Gigaverse » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:57 pm

I asked this in the older thread a few years ago, but...

Is there any word for "crybaby" other than 泣き虫. Preferably one that doesn't have overtly negative connotations. :<
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:32 pm

Gigaverse wrote:Is there any word for "crybaby" other than 泣き虫. Preferably one that doesn't have overtly negative connotations. :<


the word crybaby has overtly negative connotations
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Postby Gigaverse » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:46 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:Is there any word for "crybaby" other than 泣き虫. Preferably one that doesn't have overtly negative connotations. :<


the word crybaby has overtly negative connotations

Heh, figures people would answer that. :lol2:
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clowning incident | clowning incident | bottom text
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Postby Wolfenium » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:43 pm

今、日本語の試験がありますから、毎日勉強します。大変ですよ。:V
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Postby Kanzaki Ranko » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:45 pm

Gigaverse wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
the word crybaby has overtly negative connotations

Heh, figures people would answer that. :lol2:

Well, it wouldn't be a good translation if it didn't carry over the same connotations.
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Postby Gigaverse » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:36 am

So I discovered Ellen Baker today.

Interesting, to say the least.
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born in, raised in and emigrated from vietbongistan lolol
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Postby Kannap » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:39 am

I'd love to learn Japanese, but doubtful that will be happening.
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Postby Gigaverse » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:40 am

Kannap wrote:I'd love to learn Japanese, but doubtful that will be happening.

just do it bbe
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Postby Kannap » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:41 am

Gigaverse wrote:
Kannap wrote:I'd love to learn Japanese, but doubtful that will be happening.

just do it bbe


That's part of the problem: Not knowing where to start. I don't think anybody in town even speaks Japanese (the one Japanese student graduated last semester and is now hours away).
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:57 am

Kannap wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:just do it bbe


That's part of the problem: Not knowing where to start. I don't think anybody in town even speaks Japanese (the one Japanese student graduated last semester and is now hours away).


the beautiful thing about the internet is that you don't need to know anybody in towns that speaks japanese these days
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Postby Kannap » Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:03 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Kannap wrote:
That's part of the problem: Not knowing where to start. I don't think anybody in town even speaks Japanese (the one Japanese student graduated last semester and is now hours away).


the beautiful thing about the internet is that you don't need to know anybody in towns that speaks japanese these days


Is there a reliable place to learn Japanese on the internet?
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Postby Gigaverse » Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:26 am

Kannap wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
the beautiful thing about the internet is that you don't need to know anybody in towns that speaks japanese these days


Is there a reliable place to learn Japanese on the internet?

I personally refer to Wiktionary all the time. GT is for quick checks though, not lengthy translations.
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Postby Wolfenium » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:09 am

Gigaverse wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Is there a reliable place to learn Japanese on the internet?

I personally refer to Wiktionary all the time. GT is for quick checks though, not lengthy translations.


GT isn't good for translating sentences in general. Japanese grammar is totally different from English, including but not limited to particle usage, word order and such.
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Postby Gigaverse » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:17 am

Wolfenium wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:I personally refer to Wiktionary all the time. GT is for quick checks though, not lengthy translations.


GT isn't good for translating sentences in general. Japanese grammar is totally different from English, including but not limited to particle usage, word order and such.

Yup. So whenever I see short words with no Japanese translations on Wiktionary or Wikipedia, I panic and turn to GT for a little bit of reference.
Art-person(?). Japan liker. tired-ish.
Student in linguistics ???. On-and-off writer.
MAKE CAKE NOT stupidshiticanmakefunof.
born in, raised in and emigrated from vietbongistan lolol
Operating this polity based on preferences and narrative purposes
clowning incident | clowning incident | bottom text
can produce noises in (in order of grasp) vietbongistani, oldspeak
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:27 am

Gigaverse wrote:
Wolfenium wrote:
GT isn't good for translating sentences in general. Japanese grammar is totally different from English, including but not limited to particle usage, word order and such.

Yup. So whenever I see short words with no Japanese translations on Wiktionary or Wikipedia, I panic and turn to GT for a little bit of reference.


use weblio and goo and run the definitions through the translator if there's no J-E entries
ask moderation about reading serious moderation candidates TGs without telling them about it until afterwards and/or apparently refusing to confirm/deny the exact timeline of TG reading ~~~ i hope you never sent any of the recent mods or the ones that got really close anything personal!

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Postby Gigaverse » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:33 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:Yup. So whenever I see short words with no Japanese translations on Wiktionary or Wikipedia, I panic and turn to GT for a little bit of reference.


use weblio and goo and run the definitions through the translator if there's no J-E entries

I'd rather be able to read the original. That's why I still can't go to Weblio without cringing. ;-;
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clowning incident | clowning incident | bottom text
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:42 am

Gigaverse wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
use weblio and goo and run the definitions through the translator if there's no J-E entries

I'd rather be able to read the original. That's why I still can't go to Weblio without cringing. ;-;


http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E7%8C%AB

well, you could use their J-J if you want as well :p

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Postby Gigaverse » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:58 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:I'd rather be able to read the original. That's why I still can't go to Weblio without cringing. ;-;


http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E7%8C%AB

well, you could use their J-J if you want as well :p

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Let's see how much of that I can read... "Weblio". "は". "六百六十六の". "国語". "サイトです". Missed "辞書". Knew what "百科" meant, but does not know how to how to 話す.

*泣き*

(e) and got "から" too.
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Art-person(?). Japan liker. tired-ish.
Student in linguistics ???. On-and-off writer.
MAKE CAKE NOT stupidshiticanmakefunof.
born in, raised in and emigrated from vietbongistan lolol
Operating this polity based on preferences and narrative purposes
clowning incident | clowning incident | bottom text
can produce noises in (in order of grasp) vietbongistani, oldspeak
and bonjourois (learning weebspeak and hitlerian at uni)

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