Did family guy go too far ?

[Intestinal fluids]

I havnt read all 8 pages but has anyone pointed out the obvious? That Family Guys reason for existence is to go too far and thats what gets them attention and ratings?

[Natapoc]

Ooh, Andrea Fay Friedman - the actress with DS who voiced the character with DS - seems to have written a scathing letter concerning Palin and her objections to the episode.

Can you give me a link to the letter?

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/family-guy-voice-actor-says-palin-does-not-have-a-sense-of-humor/?no_interstitial

BAM!

This is a very good interview.


I especially like:

[laughs] That I did not even know about until my mom told me, “You’re on Channel 4!” And when I watched on Channel 4, on “Extra,” and I saw Sarah Palin with her son Trig. I’m like, “I’m not Trig. This is my life.” I was making fun of Sarah Palin, but not her son.

Did they specifically tell you that the character you were going to play also had Down syndrome?
A.

Yeah, they told me I was playing Ellen, who was Miss Bossy. I didn’t want to be bossy, but since they want me to be bossy, I just had to be as the character. I had to be bossy, as part of my process. That’s the only way to transform the real me to an animated person. So I had to do what an actor does. I just wing it and have fun with it.

[Grave_n_idle]

Ooh, Andrea Fay Friedman - the actress with DS who voiced the character with DS - seems to have written a scathing letter concerning Palin and her objections to the episode.

Can you give me a link to the letter?

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/family-guy-voice-actor-says-palin-does-not-have-a-sense-of-humor/?no_interstitial

BAM!

This is a very good interview.


I especially like:

[laughs] That I did not even know about until my mom told me, “You’re on Channel 4!” And when I watched on Channel 4, on “Extra,” and I saw Sarah Palin with her son Trig. I’m like, “I’m not Trig. This is my life.” I was making fun of Sarah Palin, but not her son.

Did they specifically tell you that the character you were going to play also had Down syndrome?
A.

Yeah, they told me I was playing Ellen, who was Miss Bossy. I didn’t want to be bossy, but since they want me to be bossy, I just had to be as the character. I had to be bossy, as part of my process. That’s the only way to transform the real me to an animated person. So I had to do what an actor does. I just wing it and have fun with it.

I wonder how Palin is going to deal with it. I can't really see her letting it go, but I'm not sure if she's actually going to go on the attack when her new target is a DS girl...

Seems like it would be political suicide, at least - not to mention making her a pretty shitty human being.

[Querinos]

Ooh, Andrea Fay Friedman - the actress with DS who voiced the character with DS - seems to have written a scathing letter concerning Palin and her objections to the episode.

Can you give me a link to the letter?

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/family-guy-voice-actor-says-palin-does-not-have-a-sense-of-humor/?no_interstitial

BAM!

Ha! Yeah I read that, too. I wonder if Sara Palin will hunt crow now?

[Gauthier]

Ooh, Andrea Fay Friedman - the actress with DS who voiced the character with DS - seems to have written a scathing letter concerning Palin and her objections to the episode.

Can you give me a link to the letter?

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/family-guy-voice-actor-says-palin-does-not-have-a-sense-of-humor/?no_interstitial

BAM!

Ha! Yeah I read that, too. I wonder if Sara Palin will hunt crow now?

From a helicopter of course.

[Aglrinia]

Seth MacFarlane

Pracitcally owns, fox if he wanted to he could move his current times slots just to block out fox news and ruin her chances of ever getting anywhere.

[Southeastern Greenland]

It wasn't the most funny episode, but too far, no.

[United Marktoria]

...it's Family Guy.

^this
End of Discussion. Palin... you can do whatever the hell you want, but you will not take my family guy from me! And don't run for president.

[Cannot think of a name]

You know, I thought Republican dimwits promoting a television show through vocal criticism was a one-time fluke, but this is starting to make me think it might be a regular phenomenon.

Anyone remember when Dan "Potatoe" Quayle was griping about how Murphy Brown supposedly promoted single parenthood?

you are showing your age!

yeah. what a dipshit.

Old people,



<----Has never heard of Murphy brown,

How do you get Family Guy? More than half of McFarlane's humor relies on outdated Gen X cultural references.

[Meoton]

While a part of me would like to see her attack the actress for her comments, I don't think much would come of it.
To her base, she is infallable. It doesn't matter what she says or does. They will see it in a positive light and accuse the liberal media of unfair attacks on her.
It's the same with Rush, Glenn, Hannity, Bush, or any neo-con icon you think of.
Stupid is as stupid does. And stupid is doing a lot lately.

[Kantria]

Ooh, Andrea Fay Friedman - the actress with DS who voiced the character with DS - seems to have written a scathing letter concerning Palin and her objections to the episode.

Can you give me a link to the letter?

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/family-guy-voice-actor-says-palin-does-not-have-a-sense-of-humor/?no_interstitial

BAM!

Thread over.

Thank you. Come again.

[Uptight Prudia]

I did not know that red hair was a disability. Or that laughing at people with Down's syndrome would make them feel accepted. Are you perhaps one of those people who think it's "wrong" to do research into spinal cord injuries as that would imply that there is something "wrong" with not being able to walk?

How strange. I could have sworn I said that red hair was a "unique trait", not a disability. Oh, wait. That's because I did. Furthermore, I said nothing to insinuate that one should not try to find a cure for disabilities if possible so that is a ridiculous claim, as well. I simply stated that those who treat people with DS differently mustn't view them as equals. There's a difference between laughing at and with someone. If my gay friend makes gay jokes, is he homophobic? No. But those who do not laugh are the ones that make homosexuality "abnormal". Laughing "with" something means it's normal and should be accepted. But I never said it's okay to laugh in a derogatory fashion.

[Aglrinia]

...it's Family Guy.

^this
End of Discussion. Palin... you can do whatever the hell you want, but you will not take my family guy from me! And don't run for president.

Seconded!

[Lenyo]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35430923/
Yeah I know we all hate Palin and think she is a nut.
Is it not a little past even a comedy show to reference her child with Down's syndrome?

It is satire. Deal with it.
Insulting the mentally disabled is not new for family guy. Why is anyone surprised; why does anyone care?

[Lenyo]

...it's Family Guy.

^this
End of Discussion. Palin... you can do whatever the hell you want, but you will not take my family guy from me! And don't run for president.

Seconded!

Thank you^

[Brandenburg-Altmark]

No, to say they did is to say any form of art, regardless of how intelligent(or not), subtle(or not) or tactful it is should be censored when it hurts someone's feelings. Regardless of the way it was done, it was Seth McFarlane's creative outlet, and whether or not he is an ass he deserves his right to illustrate his feelings in any way imaginable, so long as he isn't infringing on anyone else's rights(and believe me, nobody has a right to "not be insulted by anyone at any time, in any place.")

[Coccygia]

I did not know that red hair was a disability. Or that laughing at people with Down's syndrome would make them feel accepted. Are you perhaps one of those people who think it's "wrong" to do research into spinal cord injuries as that would imply that there is something "wrong" with not being able to walk?

How strange. I could have sworn I said that red hair was a "unique trait", not a disability. Oh, wait. That's because I did. Furthermore, I said nothing to insinuate that one should not try to find a cure for disabilities if possible so that is a ridiculous claim, as well. I simply stated that those who treat people with DS differently mustn't view them as equals. There's a difference between laughing at and with someone. If my gay friend makes gay jokes, is he homophobic? No. But those who do not laugh are the ones that make homosexuality "abnormal". Laughing "with" something means it's normal and should be accepted. But I never said it's okay to laugh in a derogatory fashion.

You didn't call it a disability, true, but you seemed to be implying that red hair and DS were basically just irrelevant differences. The idea of not doing research into cures (some people actually did criticize Christopher Reeve for involving himself in spinal cord research on that very basis) is the logical conclusion to such reasoning. But never mind. It's bad enough to make fun of people with DS or their parents, and even worse to try to justify it with the screwball logic of political correctness.

[Greater Weedania]

If only FG was funny...

[Aglrinia]

Family Guy has made fun of everything so far, if she's not going to complain about the the McCain/Palin 08 button on a Nazi soldier in the back in time episode, then don't complain about this.

She can't take away my family guy!!!!!!!!

[Gauthier]

...it's Family Guy.

^this
End of Discussion. Palin... you can do whatever the hell you want, but you will not take my family guy from me! And don't run for president.

Seconded!

I dunno, if she was the opposition candidate in 2012 it would be a gauge of how many rational and sane people still vote. Which means if she wins the country deserves to go down in a smouldering heap.

[Wanderjar]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35430923/
Yeah I know we all hate Palin and think she is a nut.
Is it not a little past even a comedy show to reference her child with Down's syndrome?

Do you have a link to the actual clip that is a problem? I'm bias to think it was the typical sick ableist, and possibly sexist stereotyping and hate but I'd rather see it first so I know what I'm commenting on.

Funny thing is that Seth MacFarlane didn't write the line, it was a girl WITH Downs Syndrome playing the character. She thought it'd be a funny touch and added it. I still find it in poor taste, but I did laugh when Sarah Palin was OWNED by commenting about how Seth MacFarland was terrible for picking on downs syndrome, when it was someone afflicted by the disorder who wrote and spoke the line.

An interesting duality, eh?

[Muku]

Sarah Palin gave me erectile dysfunction.

[Lenyo]

A little reading for anyone who believes FG went too far this time...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/18/family-guy-actress-respon_n_468331.html

[Greed and Death]

A little reading for anyone who believes FG went too far this time...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/18/family-guy-actress-respon_n_468331.html

Just going to have to call it. fucking owned.

[Pope Joan]

Anybody who misuses the phrase "begs the question" clearly needs a boost in IQ.