Left-winger/SJW feels guilty for his rapist to be deported

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Being a liberal, I can say this man doesn't portray most of us.

[Kriga]

Nordal Hauken, who describes himself as a 'young Socialist Left Party member, feminist and anti-racist', was attacked in his own home. The politician reveals that he struggled to come to terms with being a heterosexual male rape victim, and subsequently self-medicated with alcohol and cannabis.

'I am a heterosexual man who was raped by a Somalian asylum seeker,' Nordal Hauken writes for NRK.

'My life fell into ruin, but now I feel guilty about him being sent out of the country.'

He reveals how he was called up by the prison shortly before the perpetrator was to be deported to Somalia, having served 4.5 years in prison for the rape.

'But I also had a strong feeling of guilt and responsibility. I was the reason that he would not be in Norway anymore, but rather sent to a dark uncertain future in Somalia

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... malia.html

Here is the Norweigan source from the Norwegian state TV. The guy written a column there.

I personally doubt that he was raped since most victims would not make a political pamflet in the media about this. Let us assume he tells the truth.

Is this normal?

This man is part of the regressive left. Don't lump all left-wingers or social liberals in with this one single individual. That is a highly silly thing to do.

[Major-Tom]

I'm adamantly anti SJW, but all I can say to this is so what? Ok, sure, this guy shouldn't feel a shred of guilt, the Somalian man should, but for fuck's sake, if he wants to feel guilt to mend his wounds, that's his god damned choice.

[Great Carlistan]

Is supporting the far left a mental illness... I cannot even xD

[Cannot think of a name]

Your Norwegian source is also the Daily Mail.

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... rev=search

[Arachno-Satinism]

Uhh, Daily Mail?
Probably we should wait for a more credible source, just sayin.

[Conserative Morality]

Somalia is a shithole. I suppose he felt that rape only merited a prison sentence in a developed country rather than a place where Al-Shabaab still runs pretty rampant and buries people up to their necks in sand and stones them.

[MERIZoC]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... malia.html

Here is the Norweigan source from the Norwegian state TV. The guy written a column there.

I personally doubt that he was raped since most victims would not make a political pamflet in the media about this. Let us assume he tells the truth.

Is this normal?

This man is part of the regressive left. Don't lump all left-wingers or social liberals in with this one single individual. That is a highly silly thing to do.

In what fucking world is being against deportation regressive?

[Major-Tom]

Somalia is a shithole. I suppose he felt that rape only merited a prison sentence in a developed country rather than a place where Al-Shabaab still runs pretty rampant and buries people up to their necks in sand and stones them.

I have no qualms with deporting rapists to their home country. If you wish to seek asylum in a developed country, that's fine, but you must abide by the laws of the country you wish to immigrate to. Simple concept.

[Great Carlistan]

In what fucking world is being against deportation regressive?

Same world TV programmes consist of coloumns...

[Major-Tom]

This man is part of the regressive left. Don't lump all left-wingers or social liberals in with this one single individual. That is a highly silly thing to do.

In what fucking world is being against deportation regressive?

The rational one. If an asylum seeker wants to immigrate to Norway, that's fine, that can be very beneficial. However, if they don't abide by the rules and commit crimes such as rape, they can go home.

Now, granted, we shouldn't go full Switzerland and deport immigrants who say, sped too fast on a highway, or loitered in the wrong place.

[Kriga]

This man is part of the regressive left. Don't lump all left-wingers or social liberals in with this one single individual. That is a highly silly thing to do.

In what fucking world is being against deportation regressive?

Well, how about silencing any opposition against a viewpoint by calling them a "white male" or "Racist?"

Most members of the regressive left who do go against deportation, condemn anyone who disagrees otherwise as a 'racist' without even considering a number of factors that can (and do) exist.

[MERIZoC]

In what fucking world is being against deportation regressive?

The rational one. If an asylum seeker wants to immigrate to Norway, that's fine, that can be very beneficial. However, if they don't abide by the rules and commit crimes such as rape, they can go home.

Now, granted, we shouldn't go full Switzerland and deport immigrants who say, sped too fast on a highway, or loitered in the wrong place.

I didn't ask for an answer to "should we deport those who commit crimes?" I asked how taking the position that they shouldn't could possibly be considered regressive.

[MERIZoC]

In what fucking world is being against deportation regressive?

Well, how about silencing any opposition against a viewpoint by calling them a "white male" or "Racist?"

Most members of the regressive left who do go against deportation, condemn anyone who disagrees otherwise as a 'racist' without even considering a number of factors that can (and do) exist.

Point me to where this man did either of those things.

[Kriga]

The rational one. If an asylum seeker wants to immigrate to Norway, that's fine, that can be very beneficial. However, if they don't abide by the rules and commit crimes such as rape, they can go home.

Now, granted, we shouldn't go full Switzerland and deport immigrants who say, sped too fast on a highway, or loitered in the wrong place.

I didn't ask for an answer to "should we deport those who commit crimes?" I asked how taking the position that they shouldn't could possibly be considered regressive.

Refer to my previous point. A lot of members of the regressive left are openly hostile to anyone against deportation, to the point where they choose to try and silence them rather than have a logical debate or consider other points.

[Major-Tom]

The rational one. If an asylum seeker wants to immigrate to Norway, that's fine, that can be very beneficial. However, if they don't abide by the rules and commit crimes such as rape, they can go home.

Now, granted, we shouldn't go full Switzerland and deport immigrants who say, sped too fast on a highway, or loitered in the wrong place.

I didn't ask for an answer to "should we deport those who commit crimes?" I asked how taking the position that they shouldn't could possibly be considered regressive.

You asked for an answer, I gave you a detailed one. You can be childish and move to goalposts, or you can present a rebuttal.

Remember, I don't care about what this Norwegian guy thinks, however he wants to deal with the rape is his issue, not mine. That being said, the idea that rapists should have more lenient sentences is regressive.

[Cannot think of a name]

Having a complex understanding of the world after a traumatic event instead of adhering to a preconceived notion of how one is supposed to react is apparently the worst thing ever now. Here's his google translated summary:

The rape was about power, not fancy

I also had another reason to join it. I wanted to break with generalized perceptions that rape victims are always women and that one is ruined for life. I am a heterosexual man, and I was raped by another, presumably heterosexual man. To understand how this can happen, requires that one must think a little past the first prejudiced tank.

I've learned that the culture in which the rapist comes from is so totally different from ours. In his culture trades sexual abuse mostly about power and less about desire. And it is not regarded as a homosexual act being the one who exerts power and raping.

I do not feel anger toward my husband abuse, and it is incomprehensible to many. But I have to some extent chosen to accept that he is responsible for his actions. This was difficult. For I see him most as a product of an unjust world. A product of an upbringing marked by war and deprivation.
We must help

I stand rock solid in my opinion that the people he needs our help. I want us to continue to help refugees with such a background.

I have been a victim of an injustice and a dark part of the world that we are largely shielded from here at home. But I have yet reconciled myself that it happened to me, here in Norway. For I am a human being first, and not a Norwegian. No, I'm part of the world, and the world is unfortunately unfair.

Yeah. What a monster. It is to laugh.









I don't get what the problem is. Outrage denied.

[MERIZoC]

I didn't ask for an answer to "should we deport those who commit crimes?" I asked how taking the position that they shouldn't could possibly be considered regressive.

You asked for an answer, I gave you a detailed one. You can be childish and move to goalposts, or you can present a rebuttal.

Remember, I don't care about what this Norwegian guy thinks, however he wants to deal with the rape is his issue, not mine. That being said, the idea that rapists should have more lenient sentences is regressive.

lol what

This man is part of the regressive left. Don't lump all left-wingers or social liberals in with this one single individual. That is a highly silly thing to do.

In what fucking world is being against deportation regressive?

[Kriga]

Well, how about silencing any opposition against a viewpoint by calling them a "white male" or "Racist?"

Most members of the regressive left who do go against deportation, condemn anyone who disagrees otherwise as a 'racist' without even considering a number of factors that can (and do) exist.

Point me to where this man did either of those things.

Well, having such concern for the man who raped you because he is an immigrant....

This guy certainly seems to put Immigrants over his own countrymen. Would he feel the same if someone of his own country raped him.

[Caracasus]

Well The Daily Mail has probably pushed the facts of this story as close to outright fabrication as they feel they can get away with....


That aside are we really going to criticize the reactions of a rape victim, and use his reaction to a horrific violation as a chance to sneer at his politics? Really?

[Herskerstad]

Somalia is a shithole. I suppose he felt that rape only merited a prison sentence in a developed country rather than a place where Al-Shabaab still runs pretty rampant and buries people up to their necks in sand and stones them.

Not gonna be too hard on the victim here and chalk most of his sentiments up to him being broken by this act, though as far as prison sentences go 5 years for an assault rape is pretty terrible and merits a far longer stay.

[Major-Tom]

You asked for an answer, I gave you a detailed one. You can be childish and move to goalposts, or you can present a rebuttal.

Remember, I don't care about what this Norwegian guy thinks, however he wants to deal with the rape is his issue, not mine. That being said, the idea that rapists should have more lenient sentences is regressive.

lol what

In what fucking world is being against deportation regressive?

On a phone, mistyped "move the goalposts."

I don't see what you mean by lol what. You asked how this is regressive, and multiple posters have elaborated as to why that's the case, and about the regressive left in general.

[MERIZoC]

lol what

On a phone, mistyped "move the goalposts."

I don't see what you mean by lol what. You asked how this is regressive, and multiple posters have elaborated as to why that's the case, and about the regressive left in general.

Not a single poster has shown how this is regressive.

[Ifreann]

Having a complex understanding of the world after a traumatic event instead of adhering to a preconceived notion of how one is supposed to react is apparently the worst thing ever now. Here's his google translated summary:

The rape was about power, not fancy

I also had another reason to join it. I wanted to break with generalized perceptions that rape victims are always women and that one is ruined for life. I am a heterosexual man, and I was raped by another, presumably heterosexual man. To understand how this can happen, requires that one must think a little past the first prejudiced tank.

I've learned that the culture in which the rapist comes from is so totally different from ours. In his culture trades sexual abuse mostly about power and less about desire. And it is not regarded as a homosexual act being the one who exerts power and raping.

I do not feel anger toward my husband abuse, and it is incomprehensible to many. But I have to some extent chosen to accept that he is responsible for his actions. This was difficult. For I see him most as a product of an unjust world. A product of an upbringing marked by war and deprivation.
We must help

I stand rock solid in my opinion that the people he needs our help. I want us to continue to help refugees with such a background.

I have been a victim of an injustice and a dark part of the world that we are largely shielded from here at home. But I have yet reconciled myself that it happened to me, here in Norway. For I am a human being first, and not a Norwegian. No, I'm part of the world, and the world is unfortunately unfair.

Yeah. What a monster. It is to laugh.









I don't get what the problem is. Outrage denied.

But he isn't having the opinions I want him to have! SJWs! Regressive! Aaaaaaah!

[Major-Tom]

On a phone, mistyped "move the goalposts."

I don't see what you mean by lol what. You asked how this is regressive, and multiple posters have elaborated as to why that's the case, and about the regressive left in general.

Not a single poster has shown how this is regressive.

Then you're either stubborn or poor with reading comprehension.