2017 Canadian Politics Megathread - Sesquicentennial Edition

[MERIZoC]

Yeah but only if it was consensual. This is like, buttfucking someone who is drunk.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Yeah but only if it was consensual. This is like, buttfucking someone who is drunk.

Rape might be a bit strong. IMO It's the political equivalent of your roommate eating all of your birthday cake out of the shared fridge.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Yeah but only if it was consensual. This is like, buttfucking someone who is drunk.

Wha

[MERIZoC]

Yeah but only if it was consensual. This is like, buttfucking someone who is drunk.

Rape might be a bit strong. IMO It's the political equivalent of your roommate buttfucking eating all of your birthday cake out of the shared fridge.

I prefer this

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Yes he has.

Late Sunday night, a terrorist atrocity at a mosque on Sainte-Foy Street in Quebec City was the most unlikely of ways for a weekend—one of global pandemonium ignited by the incompetent malevolence of U.S. president Donald Trump—to have come to an end. Just as unlikely was the unintended role Prime Minister Justin Trudeau played in the weekend mayhem, with a heartwarming message that captured the world’s attention, only to end up adding to everybody’s confusion.

But now that six innocent Muslims have been murdered at the Centre Culturel Islamique de Quebec, Trudeau is facing a daunting summons to moral courage that he, and all Canadians, have no choice but to answer. The Quebec City outrage was like some barbaric rebuke to the uplifting message about this country that Trudeau had relayed by Twitter on Saturday: “To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength. #Welcome to Canada.”

Retweeted more than 400,000 times, Trudeau’s message to the world offered such a bold contrast to Trump’s Friday afternoon executive order that it was not unreasonably taken to constitute the promise of a specific response to the Trump administration’s suspension of the entire U.S. refugee system and the panic and misery his ill-considered decree had caused among thousands of other innocent people.

“Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has a message for refugees rejected by U.S. President Donald Trump: Canada will take you,” the Associated Press reported. The headline on the Public Broadcasting Service news page: “Trudeau says Canada will take refugees banned by U.S.” The BBC’s account: “U.S. refugee ban: Canada’s Justin Trudeau takes a stand.”

Trudeau had neither done nor said any of these things. But now, Trudeau and his ministers must actually do some brave thing.

Would you prefer "Justin butt-fucked the entire nation"?

Cuck conveys so much more imo

Buttfucking is fun though. What Trudeau did is not.

What what?

I read a Reuters article that said the opposite.

Well, a PBS article actually but still.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Buttfucking is fun though. What Trudeau did is not.

What what?

Yeah, Trudeau never once said that he would take the refugees Trump barred. AP and PBS seem to have misinterpreted his tweets quite badly and that got picked up by most everyone else. The original tweets were in the context of Canada welcoming refugees in general which is nice, but essentially meaningless without action.

[San Lumen]

Honestly given the choice between Trump or Truedau Id take Truedau in a heartbeat. I don't know why people are getting so upset over electoral reform. There are far bigger things to worry about in my opinion.

[MERIZoC]

Honestly given the choice between Trump or Truedau Id take Truedau in a heartbeat. I don't know why people are getting so upset over electoral reform. There are far bigger things to worry about in my opinion.

Ah yes, Trump, the frontrunner in the NDP leadership race.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

What what?

Yeah, Trudeau never once said that he would take the refugees Trump barred. AP and PBS seem to have misinterpreted his tweets quite badly and that got picked up by most everyone else. The original tweets were in the context of Canada welcoming refugees in general which is nice, but essentially meaningless without action.

Something important you may have missed.

"In Canada, politicians across the spectrum closed ranks around Trudeau. B.C. Premier Christy Clark promised: “We will work with the federal government to support stranded refugees.” Saskatchewan’s Brad Wall: “We stand ready to assist fed gov’t re: anyone stranded by the US ban.” Trudeau antagonist Parti Québécois’ Bernard Drainville went so far as to declare that he was “proud” of Trudeau’s stance."

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Honestly given the choice between Trump or Truedau Id take Truedau in a heartbeat.

I wasn't aware the choice was being offered.

I don't know why people are getting so upset over electoral reform. There are far bigger things to worry about in my opinion.

Like what? Not as though there's a whole lot else going on in the Canadian political scene right now.

[Socialist Nordia]

Trudeau, I am disappoint. You were doing great up until now. It will take quite a bit to make up for this.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Yeah, Trudeau never once said that he would take the refugees Trump barred. AP and PBS seem to have misinterpreted his tweets quite badly and that got picked up by most everyone else. The original tweets were in the context of Canada welcoming refugees in general which is nice, but essentially meaningless without action.

Something important you may have missed.

"In Canada, politicians across the spectrum closed ranks around Trudeau. B.C. Premier Christy Clark promised: “We will work with the federal government to support stranded refugees.” Saskatchewan’s Brad Wall: “We stand ready to assist fed gov’t re: anyone stranded by the US ban.” Trudeau antagonist Parti Québécois’ Bernard Drainville went so far as to declare that he was “proud” of Trudeau’s stance."

'We will work with the federal government' is the provinces punting the ball into Trudeau's court. Which is only right, since it's not really the provinces' job to do foreign relations.

[Collatis]

I never expected Trudeau to follow through on this promise, but it's still unfortunate that he has decided not to.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Honestly given the choice between Trump or Truedau Id take Truedau in a heartbeat. I don't know why people are getting so upset over electoral reform. There are far bigger things to worry about in my opinion.

Well considering most Canadians dislike the current system, it being a major platform point of the Grits, the underrepresentation of any province west of New Brunswick, the underrepresentation of any voter who's not a Grit in the Atlantic or a Tory in the prairies, and a massive imbalance in power where under 35% of the vote has 100% of the power, I'd say it is a huge deal.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Something important you may have missed.

"In Canada, politicians across the spectrum closed ranks around Trudeau. B.C. Premier Christy Clark promised: “We will work with the federal government to support stranded refugees.” Saskatchewan’s Brad Wall: “We stand ready to assist fed gov’t re: anyone stranded by the US ban.” Trudeau antagonist Parti Québécois’ Bernard Drainville went so far as to declare that he was “proud” of Trudeau’s stance."

'We will work with the federal government' is the provinces punting the ball into Trudeau's court. Which is only right, since it's not really the provinces' job to do foreign relations.

Still proud of his stance. And they are still bringing them in.

[Kholdlands]

I don't understand Trudeau's logic. He says that it's not what people want (paraphrasing). Have they even polled people? Give me a break.

I would boldly say that it doesn't matter what the people want since it is a thousand times better than the crappy FTPT and they should implement it anyway, but they won't because they want to protect their electoral interests.

Interestingly enough it seemed liked the most popular subject of the Trudeau meter site. Not that it counts as a poll or measurement of national popularity of any kind but it may at least indicate where the politically active focus their interests. Would be nice if they did some kind national poll beyond a few town meetings and internet survey that anyone could answer as often as the want.

[Camicon]

I'd like to see our discussion of politics be held to a higher standard than the one set by neo-Nazi's.

Would you prefer "Justin butt-fucked the entire nation"?

Cuck conveys so much more imo

Are you entirely incapable of disagreeing with something someone does and not attacking them on irrelevant fronts or with unnecessarily inflammatory language? Did the US election break you, or something?

[MERIZoC]

Would you prefer "Justin butt-fucked the entire nation"?

Cuck conveys so much more imo

Are you entirely incapable of disagreeing with something someone does and not attacking them on irrelevant fronts or with unnecessarily inflammatory language? Did the US election break you, or something?

I fail to see how a blatant lie on a deeply important issue is "irrelevant". But by all means, continue focusing on the particular language of a post on an internet forum rather than the fact that Trudeau is a slimy bastard.

[Camicon]

Are you entirely incapable of disagreeing with something someone does and not attacking them on irrelevant fronts or with unnecessarily inflammatory language? Did the US election break you, or something?

I fail to see how a blatant lie on a deeply important issue is "irrelevant". But by all means, continue focusing on the particular language of a post on an internet forum rather than the fact that Trudeau is a slimy bastard.

Saying that Trudeau "cucked" us, with regards to electoral reform, is unnecessarily inflammatory and carries negative connotations with regards to Trudeau's character that are irrelevant to the matter (I probably could have worded that better).

But my point stands. Yeah, Trudeau has chosen to break his promise about electoral reform. You can launch a blistering critique of the man without resorting to loaded language. There are plenty of mean names you can throw his way that don't also carry a freight-train worth of baseless baggage.

[MERIZoC]

I fail to see how a blatant lie on a deeply important issue is "irrelevant". But by all means, continue focusing on the particular language of a post on an internet forum rather than the fact that Trudeau is a slimy bastard.

Saying that Trudeau "cucked" us, with regards to electoral reform, is unnecessarily inflammatory and carries negative connotations with regards to Trudeau's character that are irrelevant to the matter (I probably could have worded that better).

But my point stands. Yeah, Trudeau has chosen to break his promise about electoral reform. You can launch a blistering critique of the man without resorting to loaded language. There are plenty of mean names you can throw his way that don't also carry a freight-train worth of baseless baggage.

This whole situation is pretty evident that Trudeau has a rather negative character, and deserves to be flamed by online shitposters.

[Camicon]

Saying that Trudeau "cucked" us, with regards to electoral reform, is unnecessarily inflammatory and carries negative connotations with regards to Trudeau's character that are irrelevant to the matter (I probably could have worded that better).

But my point stands. Yeah, Trudeau has chosen to break his promise about electoral reform. You can launch a blistering critique of the man without resorting to loaded language. There are plenty of mean names you can throw his way that don't also carry a freight-train worth of baseless baggage.

This whole situation is pretty evident that Trudeau has a rather negative character, and deserves to be flamed by online shitposters.

Then attack the parts of his character that deserved to be attacked, and leave aside the parts that don't come into play. Lumping it all together does nothing but make some people ignore the criticism, and leave others less likely to listen to future criticisms. There's no reason for it other than personal gratification.

[MERIZoC]

This whole situation is pretty evident that Trudeau has a rather negative character, and deserves to be flamed by online shitposters.

Then attack the parts of his character that deserved to be attacked, and leave aside the parts that don't come into play. Lumping it all together does nothing but make some people ignore the criticism, and leave others less likely to listen to future criticisms. There's no reason for it other than personal gratification.

What exactly are the parts of his character that I so unjustly offended lol

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Saying that Trudeau "cucked" us, with regards to electoral reform, is unnecessarily inflammatory and carries negative connotations with regards to Trudeau's character that are irrelevant to the matter (I probably could have worded that better).

But my point stands. Yeah, Trudeau has chosen to break his promise about electoral reform. You can launch a blistering critique of the man without resorting to loaded language. There are plenty of mean names you can throw his way that don't also carry a freight-train worth of baseless baggage.

This whole situation is pretty evident that Trudeau has a rather negative character, and deserves to be flamed by online shitposters.

No. He doesn't have one and really, at least he doesn't hang up on PM's from Australia.

That's Trumps job.

[Camicon]

Then attack the parts of his character that deserved to be attacked, and leave aside the parts that don't come into play. Lumping it all together does nothing but make some people ignore the criticism, and leave others less likely to listen to future criticisms. There's no reason for it other than personal gratification.

What exactly are the parts of his character that I so unjustly offended lol

You are aware of what the word cuck means, right? You understand how saying "Trudeau cucked Canada" implies a great deal more than saying "Trudeau has broken his campaign promise about electoral reform"?

[Great Franconia and Verana]

What exactly are the parts of his character that I so unjustly offended lol

You are aware of what the word cuck means, right? You understand how saying "Trudeau cucked Canada" implies a great deal more than saying "Trudeau has broken his campaign promise about electoral reform"?

A campaign promise that many did not expect him to keep anyways I'll add.

Every politicians break promises.
Harper vowed to never appoint a Senator or run a deficit. He appointed 59 and ran the biggest deficits in Canadian history.

If we really dismissed every politician who broke a promise, we probably would not have any politicians left.
This is a mark on the Trudeau record, no doubt, but it's hardly the end of the world for him or his government, and dismissing him on this issue is pretty shitty because he actually has kept several of his other promises and in my humble opinion has done much better than many recent PM's and other contemporary leaders.