2017 Canadian Politics Megathread - Sesquicentennial Edition

[Camicon]

Well we currently have a president that the majority of people didnt vote for. You'd never have that situation in Canada.

Dude, we get that nearly every election....

The difference being that our government is normally formed by the plurality, whereas Trump was elected by a minority.

[Kholdlands]

The news about reform is disappointing. While I am not completely surprised, the implementation or at the very least a plan for an system that would better reflect the population would have been good press for the current government. Too bad short term gain wins over nation building again, FPTP has worked for them this time so they're going to keep it, until they lose badly again that is. Hopefully there is a movement to keep this issue alive.

Edit: I need to proofread better...

[South Park Labourite]

Lollol you guys still love Trudeau?

[Aggicificicerous]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-electoral-reform-mandate-1.3961736

God damn it, Justin

​"There has been tremendous work by the House of Commons Special Committee on Electoral Reform, outreach by Members of Parliament by all parties, and engagement of 360,000 individuals in Canada through mydemocracy.ca," Trudeau writes in his letter to Gould.

"A clear preference for a new electoral system, let alone a consensus, has not emerged. Furthermore, without a clear preference or a clear question, a referendum would not be in Canada's interest. Changing the electoral system will not be in your mandate."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

[The ISCA]

Lollol you guys still love Trudeau?

Not anymore, fuck him.

[The Liberated Territories]

Lollol you guys still love Trudeau?

Never did

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Lollol you guys still love Trudeau?

General consensus in the thread on Trudeau seems to have been 'wait and see' for about as long as it's been around. Now we've seen. Don't know why you've gotten in such a tizzy about this.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

*Walks in thread*

*looks and sees*

I'm too tired to deal with this.

*leaves*

Lollol you guys still love Trudeau?

Yes, and that sounds baity.

[MERIZoC]

*Walks in thread*

*looks and sees*

I'm too tired to deal with this.

*leaves*

Lollol you guys still love Trudeau?

Yes, and that sounds baity.

lol

[The Liberated Territories]

The news about reform is disappointing. While I am not completely surprised, the implementation or at the very least a plan for an system that would better reflect the population would have been good press for the current government. Too bad short term gain wins over nation building again, FPTP has worked for them this time so they're going to keep it, until they lose badly again that is. Hopefully there is a movement to keep this issue alive.

Edit: I need to proofread better...

I don't understand Trudeau's logic. He says that it's not what people want (paraphrasing). Have they even polled people? Give me a break.

I would boldly say that it doesn't matter what the people want since it is a thousand times better than the crappy FTPT and they should implement it anyway, but they won't because they want to protect their electoral interests.

[Sanctissima]

The news about reform is disappointing. While I am not completely surprised, the implementation or at the very least a plan for an system that would better reflect the population would have been good press for the current government. Too bad short term gain wins over nation building again, FPTP has worked for them this time so they're going to keep it, until they lose badly again that is. Hopefully there is a movement to keep this issue alive.

Edit: I need to proofread better...

I don't understand Trudeau's logic. He says that it's not what people want (paraphrasing). Have they even polled people? Give me a break.

I would boldly say that it doesn't matter what the people want since it is a thousand times better than the crappy FTPT and they should implement it anyway, but they won't because they want to protect their electoral interests.

At the end of the day, it's like Khold said, they think they can fare better during the next election under FPTP. The whole "well we're not sure if Canadians really want electoral reform" thing is just posturing, and not very good posturing at that.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

*comes in for realsies this time*

*slaps self awake*

Ok, here is my opinion.

My opinion is that, while the disappointing news of referendum not happening is to me very disappointing .

Looking at the burning train wreck that is the US and seeing him help out people balances it out.

My votes are unchanged,

2018: NDP for Ontario

2019: Liberals for Canada.

Also, economy is going up, so thats nice.

[MERIZoC]

Looking at the burning train wreck that is the US and seeing him help out people balances it out.

Also, economy is going up, so thats nice.

Yes but on the other hand the entire nation just got cucked

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Looking at the burning train wreck that is the US and seeing him help out people balances it out.

Also, economy is going up, so thats nice.

Yes but on the other hand the entire nation just got cucked

The US or Canada?

[MERIZoC]

Yes but on the other hand the entire nation just got cucked

The US or Canada?

Canada lol

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

The US or Canada?

Canada lol

Not really.

[MERIZoC]

Canada lol

Not really.

"I'm gonna do electoral reform"

"lol no yer not"

"Hey, lets give him a chance"

admit it, you got fucked in the butt and left on the street

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Not really.

"I'm gonna do electoral reform"

"lol no yer not"

"Hey, lets give him a chance"

admit it, you got fucked in the butt and left on the street

There are other things he said he would do, you silly.

Like refugees.

Considering that Trump fucked them, we have to clean up his shit.

And don't blame me, I wrote my MP about it.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

My opinion is that, while the disappointing news of referendum not happening is to me very disappointing .

Looking at the burning train wreck that is the US and seeing him help out people balances it out.

Help who exactly? Ensuring Canadian citizens aren't barred or detained in the US doesn't get him points, IMO, because that's a low enough bar that any PM regardless of party affiliation should be expected to hurdle. And despite what news outlets in the States have reported Trudeau hasn't actually agreed to take on the refugees barred by Trump.

[Camicon]

Looking at the burning train wreck that is the US and seeing him help out people balances it out.

Also, economy is going up, so thats nice.

Yes but on the other hand the entire nation just got cucked

Fan of the alt-right's buzzwords, are you?

[MERIZoC]

Yes but on the other hand the entire nation just got cucked

Fan of the alt-right's buzzwords, are you?

Cuck is a fucking amazing word and if you arent appropriating it, you're missing out.

[Camicon]

Fan of the alt-right's buzzwords, are you?

Cuck is a fucking amazing word and if you arent appropriating it, you're missing out.

I'd like to see our discussion of politics be held to a higher standard than the one set by neo-Nazi's.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

My opinion is that, while the disappointing news of referendum not happening is to me very disappointing .

Looking at the burning train wreck that is the US and seeing him help out people balances it out.

Help who exactly? Ensuring Canadian citizens aren't barred or detained in the US doesn't get him points, IMO, because that's a low enough bar that any PM regardless of party affiliation should be expected to hurdle. And despite what news outlets in the States have reported Trudeau hasn't actually agreed to take on the refugees barred by Trump.

Yes he has.

[MERIZoC]

Cuck is a fucking amazing word and if you arent appropriating it, you're missing out.

I'd like to see our discussion of politics be held to a higher standard than the one set by neo-Nazi's.

Would you prefer "Justin butt-fucked the entire nation"?

Cuck conveys so much more imo

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Help who exactly? Ensuring Canadian citizens aren't barred or detained in the US doesn't get him points, IMO, because that's a low enough bar that any PM regardless of party affiliation should be expected to hurdle. And despite what news outlets in the States have reported Trudeau hasn't actually agreed to take on the refugees barred by Trump.

Yes he has.

Late Sunday night, a terrorist atrocity at a mosque on Sainte-Foy Street in Quebec City was the most unlikely of ways for a weekend—one of global pandemonium ignited by the incompetent malevolence of U.S. president Donald Trump—to have come to an end. Just as unlikely was the unintended role Prime Minister Justin Trudeau played in the weekend mayhem, with a heartwarming message that captured the world’s attention, only to end up adding to everybody’s confusion.

But now that six innocent Muslims have been murdered at the Centre Culturel Islamique de Quebec, Trudeau is facing a daunting summons to moral courage that he, and all Canadians, have no choice but to answer. The Quebec City outrage was like some barbaric rebuke to the uplifting message about this country that Trudeau had relayed by Twitter on Saturday: “To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength. #Welcome to Canada.”

Retweeted more than 400,000 times, Trudeau’s message to the world offered such a bold contrast to Trump’s Friday afternoon executive order that it was not unreasonably taken to constitute the promise of a specific response to the Trump administration’s suspension of the entire U.S. refugee system and the panic and misery his ill-considered decree had caused among thousands of other innocent people.

“Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has a message for refugees rejected by U.S. President Donald Trump: Canada will take you,” the Associated Press reported. The headline on the Public Broadcasting Service news page: “Trudeau says Canada will take refugees banned by U.S.” The BBC’s account: “U.S. refugee ban: Canada’s Justin Trudeau takes a stand.”

Trudeau had neither done nor said any of these things. But now, Trudeau and his ministers must actually do some brave thing.

I'd like to see our discussion of politics be held to a higher standard than the one set by neo-Nazi's.

Would you prefer "Justin butt-fucked the entire nation"?

Cuck conveys so much more imo

Buttfucking is fun though. What Trudeau did is not.