2017 Canadian Politics Megathread - Sesquicentennial Edition

[South Park Labourite]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-protesters-young-workers-event-1.3820153

Stupid Trudeau voters vent their frustrations. Really they should hang their heads in shame for not voting Mulcair.

NDP seems particularly unpopular in Alberta. Notley's government might be providing a negative influence for the Dippers nationally.

NDP are digging their own grave really, which is sad because I feel the Canadian left should be solidly grounded to social democratic rather than liberal values. And gosh, just saw a poll for the Alberta NDP. Still, I guess it's better to have the Liberals as the natural party of governance than the Tories.

[Novorobo]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-protesters-young-workers-event-1.3820153

Stupid Trudeau voters vent their frustrations. Really they should hang their heads in shame for not voting Mulcair.

Really? Tom "don't you know who I am" Mulcair? Tom "turns out Bob Rae was a Liberal" Mulcair?

That and he went along with the borderline-slander that is elbowgate.

It's the NDP's own damn fault they nominated an arrogant sack of shit. It's pretty telling that "choosing the celebrity over the astronaut" wasn't the dumbest move in intra-party politics last election cycle.

[South Park Labourite]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-protesters-young-workers-event-1.3820153

Stupid Trudeau voters vent their frustrations. Really they should hang their heads in shame for not voting Mulcair.

Really? Tom "don't you know who I am" Mulcair? Tom "turns out Bob Rae was a Liberal" Mulcair?

That and he went along with the borderline-slander that is elbowgate.

It's the NDP's own damn fault they nominated an arrogant sack of shit. It's pretty telling that "choosing the celebrity over the astronaut" wasn't the dumbest move in intra-party politics last election cycle.

Justin Trudeau who sells weapons to Saudi Arabia and backtracks on numerous promises. Justin 'it's 2016 I can do whatever stupid shit I please' Trudeau. He's an attention-seeking narciccist, he's that annoying guy at parties who always needs to be the centre of attention. He's all style and no substance. Elbowgate was just an example of him bringing into disrepute the office of Prime Minister through an unnecessary PR stunt gone wrong, but lucky him was able to spin the entire situation. I'd honestly be tempted to vote Tory or BQ purely out of spite for Trudeau if they were the only parties able to unseat a Liberal MP. Luckily my head tends to win over my heart, so I probably wouldn't...

And yeah, that astronaut thing just sums up the Liberals.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-protesters-young-workers-event-1.3820153

Stupid Trudeau voters vent their frustrations. Really they should hang their heads in shame for not voting Mulcair.

NDP seems particularly unpopular in Alberta. Notley's government might be providing a negative influence for the Dippers nationally.

Eh I wouldn't heap too much blame on the NDP. It's not really their fault that the oil industry crashed and previous Tory govs failed to save for a rainy day.

[Camicon]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-protesters-young-workers-event-1.3820153

Stupid Trudeau voters vent their frustrations. Really they should hang their heads in shame for not voting Mulcair.

Mulcair and the NDP ran to the economic right of the Liberals last election.

[South Park Labourite]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-protesters-young-workers-event-1.3820153

Stupid Trudeau voters vent their frustrations. Really they should hang their heads in shame for not voting Mulcair.

Mulcair and the NDP ran to the economic right of the Liberals last election.

On a more individualised basis most of the NDP's policies which were to the left of the Liberals and I think in the grand scheme of things wanting to maintain a good credit rating isn't inherently right-wing. It seems to be a sort of borrow-to-invest approach. Honestly what's more important is where the money goes, not how much.

[Camicon]

Really? Tom "don't you know who I am" Mulcair? Tom "turns out Bob Rae was a Liberal" Mulcair?

That and he went along with the borderline-slander that is elbowgate.

It's the NDP's own damn fault they nominated an arrogant sack of shit. It's pretty telling that "choosing the celebrity over the astronaut" wasn't the dumbest move in intra-party politics last election cycle.

Justin Trudeau who sells weapons to Saudi Arabia

An arms deal set in motion and brought past the point of no return by the Tories. I've covered why the blame does not rest with the Liberals multiple times in this thread.

and backtracks on numerous promises.

26, to be precise, with 34 promises achieved and another 64 in the works. That's a pretty good record.

Justin 'it's 2016 I can do whatever stupid shit I please' Trudeau. He's an attention-seeking narciccist, he's that annoying guy at parties who always needs to be the centre of attention. He's all style and no substance.

Are ad homs all you can offer?

Elbowgate was just an example of him bringing into disrepute the office of Prime Minister through an unnecessary PR stunt gone wrong, but lucky him was able to spin the entire situation.

"Elbowgate" was Trudeau accidentally bumping into someone he didn't see, in an honest effort to help a Conservative MP get to his seat when Mulcair and a couple of grandstanding NDP jackasses decided to block him.

I'd honestly be tempted to vote Tory or BQ purely out of spite for Trudeau if they were the only parties able to unseat a Liberal MP. Luckily my head tends to win over my heart, so I probably wouldn't...

And yeah, that astronaut thing just sums up the Liberals.

Ah, you live in Quebec. That explains a great deal.

Mulcair and the NDP ran to the economic right of the Liberals last election.

On a more individualised basis most of the NDP's policies which were to the left of the Liberals and I think in the grand scheme of things wanting to maintain a good credit rating isn't inherently right-wing. It seems to be a sort of borrow-to-invest approach. Honestly what's more important is where the money goes, not how much.

The NDP campaigned on "balancing the budget", just like the Tories had been doing for the last decade, and their proposed budget was no more left-wing - and far less achievable - than what the Liberals campaigned on.

[MERIZoC]

Hindsight is 20/20. Yes, in retrospect, a vote for the liberals looks like a bad choice, but at the time it seemed right, especially given Mulcair's track record. Once they replace him, I'll likely happily vote NDP next election.

[Camicon]

Hindsight is 20/20. Yes, in retrospect, a vote for the liberals looks like a bad choice, but at the time it seemed right, especially given Mulcair's track record. Once they replace him, I'll likely happily vote NDP next election.

If Layton was still around I probably would have given the NDP my full-throated support - mind you, while still voting for whichever candidate had a better chance of beating the Tory MP in my riding.

[Sanctissima]

Hindsight is 20/20. Yes, in retrospect, a vote for the liberals looks like a bad choice, but at the time it seemed right, especially given Mulcair's track record. Once they replace him, I'll likely happily vote NDP next election.

If Layton was still around I probably would have given the NDP my full-throated support - mind you, while still voting for whichever candidate had a better chance of beating the Tory MP in my riding.

To be honest, I think a majority of the population would have voted for the NDP if Layton was still around. Most of those of us who aren't committed to any particular party were just going to vote for whoever had the best chance of beating out Harper, and were he still alive, Layton probably would have been that guy.

Shame that the NDP's decided to go full retard and piss on his legacy.

[Yorkers]

When will Emperor Trump complete the North American Anschluss and unite our countries into the Anglo-Saxon North American Technate?

[Camicon]

When will Emperor Trump complete the North American Anschluss and unite our countries into the Anglo-Saxon North American Technate?

Just as soon as Hell Florida freezes over.

[Rhodevus]

When will Emperor Trump complete the North American Anschluss and unite our countries into the Anglo-Saxon North American Technate?

Just as soon as Hell Florida freezes over.

I was going to say "once the leafs win the stanley cup". Obviously, toronto winning the cup will be decades after florida freezes over

[Camicon]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/muskr ... -1.3821827

Good to see that our politicians are making decisions informed by science, and aren't fucking over minorities on a whim.

[Geilinor]

NDP finishes behind Christian Heritage in the Medicine Hat by-election.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

NDP finishes behind Christian Heritage in the Medicine Hat by-election.

Not super surprising. The NDP have declined in that riding for the last two elections, and the 'ABC' left-of-centre voter contingent is notoriously fickle about supporting whoever is most likely to win.

[Zoboyizakoplayoklot]

NDP finishes behind Christian Heritage in the Medicine Hat by-election.

Those Christian Heritage guys probably feel on top of the world rn.

[South Park Labourite]

NDP finishes behind Christian Heritage in the Medicine Hat by-election.

Those Christian Heritage guys probably feel on top of the world rn.

Whilst campaigning for Labour in UK by-elections you always get these Christian politics folks giving it their all despite the fact they always fall in the bottom third. Bless.

[Oneracon]

NDP finishes behind Christian Heritage in the Medicine Hat by-election.

Those Christian Heritage guys probably feel on top of the world rn.

Indeed they are, according to their leader's blog post about it.

[Zoboyizakoplayoklot]

Those Christian Heritage guys probably feel on top of the world rn.

Indeed they are, according to their leader's blog post about it.

The part about sacrificial contributions was interesting

[Solorni]

Canada is lucky not to have Mulcair in charge. He was definitely my least favourite leader and his behaviour after the election has shown he is not fit to lead a major party. Should have definitely resigned after he completely botched the NDP's chances. Personally though I have always supported the Liberals.

Personally, I feel like the Liberals have a great chance to stay in power for a while given the lack a viable leadership in the NDP and the chaos in the Conservatives. There seems to be some level of inside fighting there with MacKay, Baird & Clement not running.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Personally, I feel like the Liberals have a great chance to stay in power for a while given the lack a viable leadership in the NDP and the chaos in the Conservatives. There seems to be some level of inside fighting there with MacKay, Baird & Clement not running.

It's interesting just how much the modern Tories seem to have been held together by Harper and his close allies. They really do seem a bit rudderless without them - it makes one wonder about the Tories' long-term future.

[Solorni]

Yeah, I think it's somewhat similar to what the Liberals went through at the end of the Chretien and Martin era

[Oneracon]

Indeed they are, according to their leader's blog post about it.

The part about sacrificial contributions was interesting

It's probably pretty bad that my first thought was "Blood for the blood Abrahamic Judeo-Christian God"

Personally, I feel like the Liberals have a great chance to stay in power for a while given the lack a viable leadership in the NDP and the chaos in the Conservatives. There seems to be some level of inside fighting there with MacKay, Baird & Clement not running.

It's interesting just how much the modern Tories seem to have been held together by Harper and his close allies. They really do seem a bit rudderless without them - it makes one wonder about the Tories' long-term future.

It's only natural. After rescuing the Canadian Alliance from Stockwell Day's term as leader Harper built the modern Conservative Party into what it is. As the only leader its ever known, I makes sense the party is having a bit of an identity crisis.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

So it looks like Kellie Leitch has thrown her lot in with Trump in the wake of this week's results... sort of.

Conservative leadership candidate Kellie Leitch is praising American voters for throwing out “the elites” to elect billionaire Donald Trump to the U.S. presidency and says that same message needs to come to Canada.

In a fundraising e-mail to supporters, the Ontario MP expands on her plan to screen immigrants and refugees for “Canadian values” to also include visitors – although how such a system would work remains unclear.

“Tonight, our American cousins threw out the elites and elected Donald Trump as their next president,” Ms. Leitch, a pediatric surgeon, said in the e-mail sent to supporters early Wednesday morning after Mr. Trump was declared the winner.

“It’s an exciting message and one that we need delivered in Canada, as well.”

In a followup interview, Ms. Leitch said that “message” means the growing gap between what so-called elites and the average Canadian thinks. When asked whether she qualifies as elite due to her professional background, Ms. Leitch said, “You may call me an elite but look, I dealt with the most challenging old boys’ club there is in the country. They’re called surgeons.” When asked about Mr. Trump, she said “I’m not going to comment on Mr. Trump, whether he’s an elite or not.”

Ms. Leitch said she never endorsed Mr. Trump’s candidacy nor what he’s said about “women or people with disabilities or others.”

The waffling is interesting. Follows her usual pattern of throwing out red meat to her constituency via email but then turning around and walking her rhetoric back while talking to the press. Not sure it really works though, since it makes her look two-faced. Especially considering she's apparently expanded her 'Canadian values' test to visitors (!!), but still hasn't given any specifics on what it actually is.