First female 11X has been accepted

[Soldati Senza Confini]

More like Byzantium was still around but after the sack of Constantinople by crusaders themselves left it crippled.

Let's be honest, "heathens" weren't the problem of Byzantium, it was European Christian rulers being opportunistic dicks.

Really? So I guess that means some random anti-war chumps were the bane of Nazi Germany, rather than the overpowering force of the allies.

Yes, really, despite your shit comparison.

It's more like Byzantium couldn't keep being Byzantium after the European Crusaders dealt a crippling blow to the center of their empire of which it could never recover from.

[Uxupox]

Exactly my point. Different units have different standards and if she can't meet them she will be considered a failure in her unit.

I don't understand why are you worrying right now about what hasn't even happened yet.

Worry about the future and the present, never the past. That's what one of my TAC officers told me once.

[Kautharr]

I agree, fuck sin.


It collapsed because too many primitive and barbaric heathen immigrants came in.

They weren't primitive, they were armed with the best weapons of the time! (THEY HAD FABULOUS GIANT SWORDS!)

they were primitive.

[Imperial City-States]

Is she going to go AWOL like the female combat engineer?


As long as the standard isn't degraded (like it will be) then i wouldn't have a problem with it. However since the standard will be degraded (because of politics) I do have a major problem with it. I highly doubt she'll pass on her own merit. Especially considering the mentality that she has presented. She's literally going to be eaten alive by those Drill Sergeants. No If's, Ands or Buts about it.

[Vassenor]

They weren't primitive, they were armed with the best weapons of the time! (THEY HAD FABULOUS GIANT SWORDS!)

they were primitive.

And yet they were more than capable of defeating the Romans.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Fuck sin. They still became a powerful empire without Christian help. I don't see how Christianity "saved" it from anything.

I agree, fuck sin.

And thus collapsed.

It collapsed because too many primitive and barbaric heathen immigrants came in.

And yet you ignore the rest of my point.

In other words, you're just taking shit out of your ass, typing with your fingers smeared in shit, and expecting me for that to pass as an "argument".

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It collapsed because too many primitive and barbaric heathen immigrants came in.

Are you serious?

It collapsed because it was relying too much on mercenaries and got into this cycle of selling land and losing ground.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I don't understand why are you worrying right now about what hasn't even happened yet.

Worry about the future and the present, never the past. That's what one of my TAC officers told me once.

I'd rather cross the river when I get to it rather than worry about trying to cross the river when I haven't even seen the river.

[The balkens]

It collapsed because too many primitive and barbaric heathen immigrants came in.

Are you serious?

It collapsed because it was relying too much on mercenaries and got into this cycle of selling land and losing ground.

And then pissed some gothic dude and then rome got sacked 4 times or some shit.

[Uxupox]

Is she going to go AWOL like the female combat engineer?


As long as the standard isn't degraded (like it will be) then i wouldn't have a problem with it. However since the standard will be degraded (because of politics) I do have a major problem with it. I highly doubt she'll pass on her own merit. Especially considering the mentality that she has presented. She's literally going to be eaten alive by those Drill Sergeants. No If's, Ands or Buts about it.

Oh yes she will be.

Worry about the future and the present, never the past. That's what one of my TAC officers told me once.

I'd rather cross the river when I get to it rather than worry about trying to cross the river when I haven't even seen the river.

That's your opinion. But I got with what I have been taught.

[Falkenheim (Ancient)]

Really? So I guess that means some random anti-war chumps were the bane of Nazi Germany, rather than the overpowering force of the allies.

Yes, really, despite your shit comparison.

It's more like Byzantium couldn't keep being Byzantium after the European Crusaders dealt a crippling blow to the center of their empire of which it could never recover from.

I see. Thank you for educating me about how one military cannot ever, under any circumstances, be defeated by another.

[The Black Forrest]

Can't have a child without a daddy either. They'll just turn gay from the mother's effeminacy.

No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.

So edgy I cut myself.

[Napkiraly]

Your basis for this is what exactly? Furthermore, even if true, is that a result of having mixed gender combat units?

Nah, just that the Canadian Land Forces aren't especially good.

And your basis? Technologically, the Canadian military isn't so grand yes. Training wise however, it has generally been considered to be top notch.

And check their combat record...every operation the Canadians have engaged in was basically a disaster until the Americans, British or Norwegians bailed them out.

Examples if you would.

[Islamic Emirate]

And if she does pass boot? She will still need to maintain the same standard as her male counterparts in her unit. If the rest of the unit has to constantly pick up her slack because she cannot hump 90lbs of gear while in the shit, then she needs to be 86'd out of the unit.

Well, that we'll just have to see when she is in the field, don't we?

Like I said earlier, if she can make it, fantastic! She absolutely deserves to be able to try. Recent trends have shown that she will not make it, but she absolutely deserves to try. But I really feel bad for her if they lower the standards to accommodate her, because in the infantry life ain't a joke. Nobody will respect or trust her if they reduce the standards for female 11x enlistees and she'll have to work damned hard to earn that respect when she gets to her final duty station. Not that all infantry don't have to do the same thing, she'll just have a harder time with it.

[Chinese Peoples]

Yes there were. The Sacred Band of Thebes, one of the most badass military units in ancient Greece, was composed solely of male homosexual partners. The Roman emperor Elagabalus may very well have been transgender.

Yeah, and I've totally heard of those!

That is actually historical information.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yes, really, despite your shit comparison.

It's more like Byzantium couldn't keep being Byzantium after the European Crusaders dealt a crippling blow to the center of their empire of which it could never recover from.

I see. Thank you for educating me about how one military cannot ever, under any circumstances, be defeated by another.

Good thing I never said that then, did I?

[Islamic Emirate]

Nah, just that the Canadian Land Forces aren't especially good.

And your basis? Technologically, the Canadian military isn't so grand yes. Training wise however, it has generally been considered to be top notch.

And check their combat record...every operation the Canadians have engaged in was basically a disaster until the Americans, British or Norwegians bailed them out.

Examples if you would.

I already have.

[Islamic Emirate]

Is she going to go AWOL like the female combat engineer?


As long as the standard isn't degraded (like it will be) then i wouldn't have a problem with it. However since the standard will be degraded (because of politics) I do have a major problem with it. I highly doubt she'll pass on her own merit. Especially considering the mentality that she has presented. She's literally going to be eaten alive by those Drill Sergeants. No If's, Ands or Buts about it.

No, she's going to have a female drill sergeant, as I understand it.

[Doperland]

Oh boy. Well, as said earlier, if she can do it, awesome. Although I imagine it'll end poorly due to the fact she's going to make it even if she can't do it. Politics and all.

P.s. Sacking of Constantinople was an inside job

[Uxupox]

Is she going to go AWOL like the female combat engineer?


As long as the standard isn't degraded (like it will be) then i wouldn't have a problem with it. However since the standard will be degraded (because of politics) I do have a major problem with it. I highly doubt she'll pass on her own merit. Especially considering the mentality that she has presented. She's literally going to be eaten alive by those Drill Sergeants. No If's, Ands or Buts about it.

No, she's going to have a female drill sergeant, as I understand it.

Supposedly, yes.

[The balkens]

Is she going to go AWOL like the female combat engineer?


As long as the standard isn't degraded (like it will be) then i wouldn't have a problem with it. However since the standard will be degraded (because of politics) I do have a major problem with it. I highly doubt she'll pass on her own merit. Especially considering the mentality that she has presented. She's literally going to be eaten alive by those Drill Sergeants. No If's, Ands or Buts about it.

No, she's going to have a female drill sergeant, as I understand it.

why?

[USS Monitor]

The Army's first female infantry recruit, a 25-year-old police officer from Louisiana, will report to basic training next year.

Tammy Grace Barnett took the oath of enlistment Thursday at Military Entrance Processing Station Shreveport. She plans to serve in military occupational specialty 11X, one of a series of MOSs that opened to women April 1.


ARMY TIMES
Army seeks enlisted women for infantry, armor and 12 other combat jobs

Barnett initially visited Army recruiters in November, she said in an Army news release. She told TV station KSLA that she'd planned to enter the military police ranks, "but infantry is similar, and they are more on the front lines, like law enforcement here, and I said that's what I want to do."

She'll head to Fort Benning, Georgia, in June 2017 for basic training. The 14-month delay "is to allow the Army to properly prepare for new trainees by having trained female officers and [noncommissioned officers] in position," Army Recruiting Battalion Baton Rouge public affairs chief Roger Harmon said via email. "This allows female soldiers the opportunity to attend training and serve in a MOS previously only available to male soldiers."


Another MOS gender barrier fell recently at a recruiting station in Horseheads, a central New York town about 15 miles from the Pennsylvania border. There, Kaitlyn Stanton enlisted as a fire support specialist (MOS 13F), which opened to women April 1 along with 11-series specialties and other combat-related jobs.

Another female 13F recruit is set to enlist early next week in the Seattle area, a Recruiting Command spokesman said.

Barnett plans to celebrate her gender-equity milestone by going fishing with family this weekend. She's also already made some career plans.

"I have served the front lines in my hometown ... and now I am going to serve the front lines for my country,” Barnett said in the release. “I want to deploy, see action, and I definitely want to go to Airborne school.”

An insert from here.

I'm an infantry man specifically an 11C in the US army. Currently I serve as an instructor in mortar related training and frankly my opinion is very low of this maneuver made by high command. I think this is just a disaster waiting to happen because up to this day they still haven't said which standards are females going to adhere to (Which in my opinion should the be normalized ones to graduate) but knowing TRADOC and their bullshit of magnanimous proportions they are gonna fuck it up as always. While I do know that there are woman who exist who can pass the physical requirements to do the job they are far and few in between which makes it economically un viable for the army as they are investing in a soldier and they expect a return investment from that.

Frankly I don't see the normal female to be able to carry this type of equipment through the day. Which could be upwards of 15 miles or 20 miles depending on when their next objective is. The total weight of his equipment should be upwards to around 80 to 90 lbs. Do you expect somebody who is around 140lb to carry 90lbs of equipment for hours on end?

Care to share your thoughts?

I personally can't carry 80lb of equipment, but how should I know about these women they've recruited? I don't know them. I don't know how big they are or how much they can carry.

[Uxupox]

No, she's going to have a female drill sergeant, as I understand it.

why?

Something about AR 600-20 probably.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

And your basis? Technologically, the Canadian military isn't so grand yes. Training wise however, it has generally been considered to be top notch. Examples if you would.

I already have.

I can't hear you over the sound of Vimy Ridge. Or Juno Beach. Or The Netherlands.

[The balkens]

why?

Something about AR 600-20 or something.

What?