First female 11X has been accepted

[Uxupox]

Well, where were you deployed?

Iraq once and Afghanistan twice.

Only went to Afghanistan once but never want to go to that hellhole again.

[Kubra]

Well, where were you deployed?

Iraq once and Afghanistan twice.

hows your pashto?

[Imperial City-States]

Iraq once and Afghanistan twice.

hows your pashto?

To be honest? Pretty shit. On bothered learning very minimum commands and even then, I didn't use them often (wasn't my role)

[Zarkanians]

Which physical requirement?

You know which one.

No, I don't. Earlier on the last page, somebody claimed that men only received passing grades if they achieved higher results than women. So when Wallenburg stated that they had to meet the physical requirements, I wanted to know which one he thought they should meet.

Personally, I agree that the difference doesn't really matter that much; I'm just of the onion that if we're okay with women achieving a lower standard, the standard for men should be lowered, too. If it we don't need female soldiers to be able to run at that speed, or do that many push-ups, why do we need male soldiers to achieve same?

Or, y'know, they could raise the requirements for women, but I don't see the point of that.

[Uxupox]

You know which one.

No, I don't. Earlier on the last page, somebody claimed that men only received passing grades if they achieved higher results than women. So when Wallenburg stated that they had to meet the physical requirements, I wanted to know which one he thought they should meet.

Personally, I agree that the difference doesn't really matter that much; I'm just of the onion that if we're okay with women achieving a lower standard, the standard for men should be lowered, too. If it we don't need female soldiers to be able to run at that speed, or do that many push-ups, why do we need male soldiers to achieve same?

Or, y'know, they could raise the requirements for women, but I don't see the point of that.

Standards are there for a reason.

Excerpts from an APFT brief:
"THE PUSH-UP EVENT MEASURES THE ENDURANCE OF
THE CHEST, SHOULDER, AND TRICEPS MUSCLES."

"THE SIT-UP EVENT MEASURES THE ENDURANCE OF
THE ABDOMINAL AND HIP-FLEXOR MUSCLES."

"THE TWO-MILE RUN IS USED TO ASSESS YOUR AEROBIC FITNESS AND YOUR LEG MUSCLES' ENDURANCE."

[Risottia]

I wouldn't be afraid of the dumb fuck who brought a knife to a gun fight.

Well, dying without fear is better than dying with it.

Because you SHOULD be scared of a Gurkha.

[Imperial City-States]

I wouldn't be afraid of the dumb fuck who brought a knife to a gun fight.

Well, dying without fear is better than dying with it.

Because you SHOULD be scared of a Gurkha.

Not dying because I'm not a moron who pulls a knife against Semi-automatic weapons sounds like a better alternative.

[Kubra]

hows your pashto?

To be honest? Pretty shit. On bothered learning very minimum commands and even then, I didn't use them often (wasn't my role)

Lack of internal pashto speakers has been a thorn in the side of the CAF since the start of the afghan mission, I assume it's been the same for every other force deployed in the region. You want folks to strive to be their best, so why is at least a limited level of pashto fluency not included in the categorization of "being the best"?

[Hurdegaryp]

I wouldn't be afraid of the dumb fuck who brought a knife to a gun fight.

Well, dying without fear is better than dying with it.

Because you SHOULD be scared of a Gurkha.

During the Falkland War the Argentinian soldiers were scared shitless of the Gurkhas, because the highly racist junta propaganda against those same Gurkhas backfired hilariously.

[Imperializt Russia]

Well, dying without fear is better than dying with it.

Because you SHOULD be scared of a Gurkha.

Not dying because I'm not a moron who pulls a knife against Semi-automatic weapons sounds like a better alternative.

Did you never do bayonet drills?

[Kubra]

Not dying because I'm not a moron who pulls a knife against Semi-automatic weapons sounds like a better alternative.

Did you never do bayonet drills?

Bayonet training in the US army was discontinued in 2010.

[Imperializt Russia]

Did you never do bayonet drills?

Bayonet training in the US army was discontinued in 2010.

I forgot about that, but it answers my point.

[Zarkanians]

No, I don't. Earlier on the last page, somebody claimed that men only received passing grades if they achieved higher results than women. So when Wallenburg stated that they had to meet the physical requirements, I wanted to know which one he thought they should meet.

Personally, I agree that the difference doesn't really matter that much; I'm just of the onion that if we're okay with women achieving a lower standard, the standard for men should be lowered, too. If it we don't need female soldiers to be able to run at that speed, or do that many push-ups, why do we need male soldiers to achieve same?

Or, y'know, they could raise the requirements for women, but I don't see the point of that.

Standards are there for a reason.

Excerpts from an APFT brief:
"THE PUSH-UP EVENT MEASURES THE ENDURANCE OF
THE CHEST, SHOULDER, AND TRICEPS MUSCLES."

"THE SIT-UP EVENT MEASURES THE ENDURANCE OF
THE ABDOMINAL AND HIP-FLEXOR MUSCLES."

"THE TWO-MILE RUN IS USED TO ASSESS YOUR AEROBIC FITNESS AND YOUR LEG MUSCLES' ENDURANCE."

Could you provide proof that the numbers used for the male requirements are more valid than the numbers used for the female requirements, remembering that the military is not a sports team, and that soldiers will generally not be rewarded for being able to carry a heavy bag for a few minutes longer than their compatriots?

[Imperial City-States]

To be honest? Pretty shit. On bothered learning very minimum commands and even then, I didn't use them often (wasn't my role)

Lack of internal pashto speakers has been a thorn in the side of the CAF since the start of the afghan mission, I assume it's been the same for every other force deployed in the region. You want folks to strive to be their best, so why is at least a limited level of pashto fluency not included in the categorization of "being the best"?

I only knew enough to get by at check points or searches, nothing else. Didn't see that anything else was really needed.

[Kubra]

Bayonet training in the US army was discontinued in 2010.

I forgot about that, but it answers my point.

That it does. As a matter of survival, between a bayonet and a bachelors degree I'd prob take the bachelors degree.

[Imperial City-States]

Not dying because I'm not a moron who pulls a knife against Semi-automatic weapons sounds like a better alternative.

Did you never do bayonet drills?

Once when I first enlisted, then the Army saw how utterly pointless it was and stopped teaching it.

[Navorgska]

This is not continuitive to a constructive discussion.

Neither is a sweeping generalisation about women but look at that OP, mate.

I don't see a normal average person, regardless of sex, carry around 80 to 90 lbs for about 15 miles or 20 miles. Do you?

Everybody that wants to serve needs to be trained. Women might have to train harder, on average (though that's still under debate considering people joining the army aren't exactly a randomized sampling of the population, so citing statistics won't get you far), and it's not like they're provided with a trolley, are they?

They don't train women harder, though. It's always been like this in the military (or at least the Marines from my experience). Ultimately it ends up being up to the individual to train themselves but the qualifications are becoming so lax that there is reasonable fear that women will cause an increased rate in combat casualties (self admitted by some).

[Imperializt Russia]

Did you never do bayonet drills?

Once when I first enlisted, then the Army saw how utterly pointless it was and stopped teaching it.

It's not pointless, it's just highly situational.

In the kind of conflicts the US has found itself in since a bit before 2010, that situation has not particularly presented itself, so it's not surprising they dropped it.

[Imperializt Russia]

I forgot about that, but it answers my point.

That it does. As a matter of survival, between a bayonet and a bachelors degree I'd prob take the bachelors degree.

Oh, is that why the recruiter was really interested in me?

[Kubra]

Lack of internal pashto speakers has been a thorn in the side of the CAF since the start of the afghan mission, I assume it's been the same for every other force deployed in the region. You want folks to strive to be their best, so why is at least a limited level of pashto fluency not included in the categorization of "being the best"?

I only knew enough to get by at check points or searches, nothing else. Didn't see that anything else was really needed.

What was your role, exactly?

[Imperial City-States]

Once when I first enlisted, then the Army saw how utterly pointless it was and stopped teaching it.

It's not pointless, it's just highly situational.

In the kind of conflicts the US has found itself in since a bit before 2010, that situation has not particularly presented itself, so it's not surprising they dropped it.

Never made much sense to put a knife six inches long on a carbine thirty inches long.

[Imperial City-States]

I only knew enough to get by at check points or searches, nothing else. Didn't see that anything else was really needed.

What was your role, exactly?

A Forward Observer, my job was to call in Artillery, Air strikes and helicopter strikes. Not talk to locals.

[Uxupox]

Standards are there for a reason.

Excerpts from an APFT brief:
"THE PUSH-UP EVENT MEASURES THE ENDURANCE OF
THE CHEST, SHOULDER, AND TRICEPS MUSCLES."

"THE SIT-UP EVENT MEASURES THE ENDURANCE OF
THE ABDOMINAL AND HIP-FLEXOR MUSCLES."

"THE TWO-MILE RUN IS USED TO ASSESS YOUR AEROBIC FITNESS AND YOUR LEG MUSCLES' ENDURANCE."

Could you provide proof that the numbers used for the male requirements are more valid than the numbers used for the female requirements, remembering that the military is not a sports team, and that soldiers will generally not be rewarded for being able to carry a heavy bag for a few minutes longer than their compatriots?

Read AR I provided a page ago.

[Kubra]

That it does. As a matter of survival, between a bayonet and a bachelors degree I'd prob take the bachelors degree.

Oh, is that why the recruiter was really interested in me?

lol cuz they don't have to pay off your school debt, you gotta foot the bill and military service if you go before enlisting.
In all seriousness its the roles the require a certain amount of tertiary education that are the hardest to fill, which is why they subsidize a lot of recruits education. If you're going in with actual qualifications from the get-go, they can have you hit the ground running.

[Imperializt Russia]

It's not pointless, it's just highly situational.

In the kind of conflicts the US has found itself in since a bit before 2010, that situation has not particularly presented itself, so it's not surprising they dropped it.

Never made much sense to put a knife six inches long on a carbine thirty inches long.

Because its value lies beyond the killing power of the combination.

Pretty sure I heard stories of US Army soldiers on prisoner detail who happily worked out the W1200 shared the same bayonet lugs as the M1897.
So they fit M1897 sword bayonets to them.