First female 11X has been accepted

[Imperial City-States]

Also wasn't the standard lowers for woman?

I read about it somewhere but the OP at that time made it sound like America but someone mentioned Britain so idk

Females in the military have a lower 'standard' that they have to achieve in order to be considered fit for service.

[Thiefs County]

Woman shouldn't serve because they arent the same physically as men and it takes constant hard training for woman to be able to do what military men do.

Like it takes constant hard training for men to be able what military men do.

It takes even harder training for woman to meet that standard and to stay there.

It's an actual fact that women aren't "built" the same way as men.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Like it takes constant hard training for men to be able what military men do.

I think his point was that the amount of effort required for both is vastly different.

Well, then those military woman will shoulder that effort.

[Esternial]

Neither is a sweeping generalisation about women but look at that OP, mate.

I don't see a normal average person, regardless of sex, carry around 80 to 90 lbs for about 15 miles or 20 miles. Do you?

Everybody that wants to serve needs to be trained. Women might have to train harder, on average (though that's still under debate considering people joining the army aren't exactly a randomized sampling of the population, so citing statistics won't get you far), and it's not like they're provided with a trolley, are they?

Literally speaking? No they aren't provided a trolley. But the weight that a female (or male for that matter) can't carry, is thrust upon their comrades.

Don't see the issue. If their comrades can carry it then there's no problem. Is being a good pack mule the most important factor in a soldier for you? Odd.

[Thiefs County]

Also wasn't the standard lowers for woman?

I read about it somewhere but the OP at that time made it sound like America but someone mentioned Britain so idk

Females in the military have a lower 'standard' that they have to achieve in order to be considered fit for service.

Yeah and that's fucking idiotic idea.

You want a weaker military just because muh equality?

[Blakullar]

Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.

Plot twist: not all women have children.

[Jamzmania]

Woman shouldn't serve because they arent the same physically as men and it takes constant hard training for woman to be able to do what military men do.

Like it takes constant hard training for men to be able what military men do.

Although I would imagine that it would be significantly less training and that the men have a higher potential.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Like it takes constant hard training for men to be able what military men do.

It takes even harder training for woman to meet that standard and to stay there.

It's an actual fact that women aren't "built" the same way as men.

Then they will train harder. Really, if you have a combat-effective soldier, does it really matter what's between the legs?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You need that tensile strength to make it through your days camping and whatnot, dontchaknow?

Men have got plenty of experience setting up tents in their pants. Women, on the other hand...?

And thus we know why women should not make it in the military, because setting up tents in their pants is a far more important part of the military than anything else *nods*

[Thiefs County]

Keep in mind that those serving need to be able to carry a injured comrade and a really fucking heavy bag.

[Imperial City-States]

Literally speaking? No they aren't provided a trolley. But the weight that a female (or male for that matter) can't carry, is thrust upon their comrades.

Don't see the issue. If their comrades can carry it then there's no problem. Is being a good pack mule the most important factor in a soldier for you? Odd.

You're missing the point.

If someone is having to carry your kit then you're nothing but a burden. One's ability to be a 'pack mule' is crucial in addition to having the ability to still conduct combat action.


Kit being defined as your Combat equipment (Body Armor, Ammunition, Assault pack ect. )

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Literally speaking? No they aren't provided a trolley. But the weight that a female (or male for that matter) can't carry, is thrust upon their comrades.

Don't see the issue. If their comrades can carry it then there's no problem. Is being a good pack mule the most important factor in a soldier for you? Odd.

It's literally "but muh back!" basically.

[Esternial]

It takes even harder training for woman to meet that standard and to stay there.

It's an actual fact that women aren't "built" the same way as men.

Then they will train harder. Really, if you have a combat-effective soldier, does it really matter what's between the legs?

Frankly being good in combat situations sounds more important than carrying stuff on your back but maybe the Army is just a really fancy boyscouts movement and I was wrong all along.

[Imperializt Russia]

Keep in mind that those serving need to be able to carry a injured comrade and a really fucking heavy bag.

There are twelve people in an infantry squad.

[Thiefs County]

It takes even harder training for woman to meet that standard and to stay there.

It's an actual fact that women aren't "built" the same way as men.

Then they will train harder. Really, if you have a combat-effective soldier, does it really matter what's between the legs?

There's also the fact that the women can distract the male soldiers.

There's also been times were military men have said they will quit if women joined.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Like it takes constant hard training for men to be able what military men do.

Although I would imagine that it would be significantly less training and that the men have a higher potential.

You could imagine that. Wouldn't make it more true, though.

Keep in mind that those serving need to be able to carry a injured comrade and a really fucking heavy bag.

Which women can.

[Imperial City-States]

Keep in mind that those serving need to be able to carry a injured comrade and a really fucking heavy bag.

There are twelve people in an infantry squad.

Not totally true.

[Thiefs County]

I think the word I'm looking for is unit cohesion or something, I'm bad with remembering words.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Then they will train harder. Really, if you have a combat-effective soldier, does it really matter what's between the legs?

There's also the fact that the women can distract the male soldiers.

There's also been times were military men have said they will quit if women joined.

Well, they will be replace by competent female soldiers, won't they/

Pfff, the line of reasoning that 'women can distract men' was used to keep women from being elected, to keep them from the police forces and to keep them from the work force. In all three instances, it proved absolute bollocks. Men should be able to keep it in their pants.

[Esternial]

Don't see the issue. If their comrades can carry it then there's no problem. Is being a good pack mule the most important factor in a soldier for you? Odd.

You're missing the point.

If someone is having to carry your kit then you're nothing but a burden. One's ability to be a 'pack mule' is crucial in addition to having the ability to still conduct combat action.

Could've just said "yes" instead.

So apparently being a good soldier is irrelevant to whether or not they can serve if they can't carry enough weight.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

There's also the fact that the women can distract the male soldiers.

There's also been times were military men have said they will quit if women joined.

Well, they will be replace by competent female soldiers, won't they/

Pfff, the line of reasoning that 'women can distract men' was used to keep women from being elected, to keep them from the police forces and to keep them from the work force. In all three instances, it proved absolute bollocks. Men should be able to keep it in their pants.

Tits are more important than your life *nods*

[Thiefs County]

There's also the fact that the women can distract the male soldiers.

There's also been times were military men have said they will quit if women joined.

Well, they will be replace by competent female soldiers, won't they/

Pfff, the line of reasoning that 'women can distract men' was used to keep women from being elected, to keep them from the police forces and to keep them from the work force. In all three instances, it proved absolute bollocks. Men should be able to keep it in their pants.

We are talking about men who are actually fighting in another country, not someone sitting in a building making laws or someone walking around town.

[Wallenburg]

Then they will train harder. Really, if you have a combat-effective soldier, does it really matter what's between the legs?

There's also the fact that the women can distract the male soldiers.

There's also been times were military men have said they will quit if women joined.

If the mere presence of a female keeps a soldier from doing his job, he's unfit to be a soldier.

[Imperial City-States]

You're missing the point.

If someone is having to carry your kit then you're nothing but a burden. One's ability to be a 'pack mule' is crucial in addition to having the ability to still conduct combat action.

Could've just said "yes" instead.

So apparently being a good soldier is irrelevant to whether or not they can serve if they can't carry enough weight.

You could be the best person in your MOS in terms of job expertise, but that doesn't matter if you're incapable of conducting the physical parts of the job then you're absolutely worthless.

[Imperializt Russia]

Then they will train harder. Really, if you have a combat-effective soldier, does it really matter what's between the legs?

There's also the fact that the women can distract the male soldiers.

There's also been times were military men have said they will quit if women joined.

If you're in a combat situation and your thought is not "let's maintain our unit cohesion" but "tits", your mindset is clearly not suited for combat.

Military men said they'd quit if blacks were allowed in and if DADT was lifted. Doesn't make them right.