First female 11X has been accepted

[Napkiraly]

And your basis? Technologically, the Canadian military isn't so grand yes. Training wise however, it has generally been considered to be top notch. Examples if you would.

I already have.

Without a single source detailing anything you said.

[Falkenheim (Ancient)]

I see. Thank you for educating me about how one military cannot ever, under any circumstances, be defeated by another.

Good thing I never said that then, didn't I?

Well you definitely implied it. If both Byzantium and the Third Reich both fell not because of their powerful enemies, but because of some random internal thing (which wasn't even major in the case of the Reich), then that's definitely the message you're sending.

[Doperland]

I personally can't carry 80lb of equipment, but how should I know about these women they've recruited? I don't know them. I don't know how big they are or how much they can carry.

What kind of boat are you? Can't carry 80 pounds...

[Uxupox]

Something about AR 600-20 or something.

What?

Military sexual policy.

[Uxupox]

I personally can't carry 80lb of equipment, but how should I know about these women they've recruited? I don't know them. I don't know how big they are or how much they can carry.

What kind of boat are you? Can't carry 80 pounds...

Probably a sunken one.

[Islamic Emirate]

An insert from here.

I'm an infantry man specifically an 11C in the US army. Currently I serve as an instructor in mortar related training and frankly my opinion is very low of this maneuver made by high command. I think this is just a disaster waiting to happen because up to this day they still haven't said which standards are females going to adhere to (Which in my opinion should the be normalized ones to graduate) but knowing TRADOC and their bullshit of magnanimous proportions they are gonna fuck it up as always. While I do know that there are woman who exist who can pass the physical requirements to do the job they are far and few in between which makes it economically un viable for the army as they are investing in a soldier and they expect a return investment from that.

Frankly I don't see the normal female to be able to carry this type of equipment through the day. Which could be upwards of 15 miles or 20 miles depending on when their next objective is. The total weight of his equipment should be upwards to around 80 to 90 lbs. Do you expect somebody who is around 140lb to carry 90lbs of equipment for hours on end?

Care to share your thoughts?

I personally can't carry 80lb of equipment, but how should I know about these women they've recruited? I don't know them. I don't know how big they are or how much they can carry.

Truthfully, you rarely have to carry that much. The only time I remember that was like Honor Hill and some FTXs. Usually in OSUT though its like 45lbs so its not that bad. If you can ruck a four miles carrying 45lbs in one hour, you're fine to be an 11B, more or less.

[Godular]

They did become an EMPIRE, y'know.

I don't see how Christianity "saved" the most powerful empire in the West.

saved it from sin

But not from Goths.

Gotta watch out for them emo barbarians. They pack a surprising punch.

[Islamic Emirate]

I already have.

Without a single source detailing anything you said.

By all means look it up. Couldn't care less if you accept it or not.

[Luminesa]

Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.

Women can serve, I'm just not sure about girls serving on the front lines. I have a friend who's a girl and in the armed forces, just not on the front lines (though she's just as tough as some of the guys).

Another concern is that if the girls get taken prisoner during combat, there's no telling what their belligerents might do to them, depending on who it is. Especially ISIS. Ugh...as a girl myself, the idea terrifies me.

Also, the thing about kids, I agree with it. Sure, some ladies are single and don't have babies, but what about the ones that do? If they and the dads get killed in combat, then that's a huge problem for the kids who are left behind.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Good thing I never said that then, didn't I?

Well you definitely implied it. If both Byzantium and the Third Reich both fell not because of their powerful enemies, but because of some random internal thing (which wasn't even major in the case of the Reich), then that's definitely the message you're sending.

I also never said that Byzantium fell because of a "random internal thing", did I? I said, specifically, that Byzantium was not as powerful as it was pre-Constantinople's fall, so it was a crippled empire by the time the Turks invaded it, who had, in fact, a more powerful army than Byzantium could field as a crippled empire.

What I am saying is this: Byzantium fell to her enemies, sure, but European Christian rulers who were opportunistic dicks gave the crippling blow to the empire that would allow for these things to happen, which, hint, it is an externality, not an internal issue. Try to keep up.

[Uxupox]

I personally can't carry 80lb of equipment, but how should I know about these women they've recruited? I don't know them. I don't know how big they are or how much they can carry.

Truthfully, you rarely have to carry that much. The only time I remember that was like Honor Hill and some FTXs. Usually in OSUT though its like 45lbs so its not that bad. If you can ruck a four miles carrying 45lbs in one hour, you're fine to be an 11B, more or less.

I had to march everywhere when I was in sand hill. Fucking everywhere. Including those goddamn weapon qual ranges. Fuck that.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Without a single source detailing anything you said.

By all means look it up. Couldn't care less if you accept it or not.

But you completely forgetting Operation IMPACT

[Islamic Emirate]

Truthfully, you rarely have to carry that much. The only time I remember that was like Honor Hill and some FTXs. Usually in OSUT though its like 45lbs so its not that bad. If you can ruck a four miles carrying 45lbs in one hour, you're fine to be an 11B, more or less.

I had to march everywhere when I was in sand hill. Fucking everywhere. Including those goddamn weapon qual ranges. Fuck that.

Yeah you hump a lot but on Sand Hill I don't remember ever really carrying obscene amounts of weight. I do however remember those damn fireants. Everywhere.

[Falkenheim (Ancient)]

Well you definitely implied it. If both Byzantium and the Third Reich both fell not because of their powerful enemies, but because of some random internal thing (which wasn't even major in the case of the Reich), then that's definitely the message you're sending.

I also never said that Byzantium fell because of a "random internal thing", did I? I said, specifically, that Byzantium was not as powerful as it was pre-Constantinople's fall, so it was a crippled empire by the time the Turks invaded it, who had, in fact, a more powerful army than Byzantium could field as a crippled empire.

What I am saying is this: Byzantium fell to her enemies, sure, but European Christian rulers who were opportunistic dicks gave the crippling blow to the empire that would allow for these things to happen. Try to keep up.

"Try to keep up", eh? Funny how you only addressed one of my responses. Sorry if this triggers you, but that's what you get for being passive-aggressive.

Anyway, there are so many empires that fell because a population of foreigners entirely migrated into their country. The Byzantines wouldn't have survived regardless.

[Napkiraly]

Without a single source detailing anything you said.

By all means look it up. Couldn't care less if you accept it or not.

By all means, it's not my job to go source hunting. Sauce.

[-The West Coast-]

As a soldier myself, I believe if a woman can serve and train under the same conditions as a man and fight in the same conditions as her male counterparts than she oughta be given the same shot as men get.

[Grenartia]

Because you posted a sexist OP.

It's not sexist to question the viability of having women in combat roles, or at the least, mixed combat units.

Though I personally disagree, it's not sexist.

The OP thinks the only way women could make it on the battlefield is if training standards are lowered. I find that to be an inherently sexist assumption.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I also never said that Byzantium fell because of a "random internal thing", did I? I said, specifically, that Byzantium was not as powerful as it was pre-Constantinople's fall, so it was a crippled empire by the time the Turks invaded it, who had, in fact, a more powerful army than Byzantium could field as a crippled empire.

What I am saying is this: Byzantium fell to her enemies, sure, but European Christian rulers who were opportunistic dicks gave the crippling blow to the empire that would allow for these things to happen. Try to keep up.

"Try to keep up", eh? Funny how you only addressed one of my responses. Sorry if this triggers you, but that's what you get for being passive-aggressive.

Anyway, there are so many empires that fell because a population of foreigners entirely migrated into their country. The Byzantines wouldn't have survived regardless.

I'm not the one bringing up Nazi Germany into this. So I don't have to answer to your irrelevant shit.

And that wasn't my point. You keep trying to bring immigration and conquest while disregarding the sack of Constantinople as an actual thing that crippled Byzantium.

[Luminesa]

I also never said that Byzantium fell because of a "random internal thing", did I? I said, specifically, that Byzantium was not as powerful as it was pre-Constantinople's fall, so it was a crippled empire by the time the Turks invaded it, who had, in fact, a more powerful army than Byzantium could field as a crippled empire.

What I am saying is this: Byzantium fell to her enemies, sure, but European Christian rulers who were opportunistic dicks gave the crippling blow to the empire that would allow for these things to happen. Try to keep up.

"Try to keep up", eh? Funny how you only addressed one of my responses. Sorry if this triggers you, but that's what you get for being passive-aggressive.

Anyway, there are so many empires that fell because a population of foreigners entirely migrated into their country. The Byzantines wouldn't have survived regardless.

The Third Reich fell because of both internal and external forces. The Germans (read: Hitler) were stupid enough to go into Russia in the middle of the winter, they were stupid enough to fight Great Britain in the air, and then the Americans, Canadians, and French all got into Germany via France. As far as internal forces, the Nazi bureaucracy was so tangled and tense that it was obviously going to fall apart, and by the end of the war it already was.

But anyway, I'm not sure what this has to do with ladies joining the military.

[Falkenheim (Ancient)]

"Try to keep up", eh? Funny how you only addressed one of my responses. Sorry if this triggers you, but that's what you get for being passive-aggressive.

Anyway, there are so many empires that fell because a population of foreigners entirely migrated into their country. The Byzantines wouldn't have survived regardless.

I'm not the one bringing up Nazi Germany into this. So I don't have to answer to your irrelevant shit.

And that wasn't my point. You keep trying to bring immigration and conquest while disregarding the sack of Constantinople as an actual thing that crippled Byzantium.

I'm not denying that, but ultimately it wasn't what killed them.

[Uxupox]

It's not sexist to question the viability of having women in combat roles, or at the least, mixed combat units.

Though I personally disagree, it's not sexist.

The OP thinks the only way women could make it on the battlefield is if training standards are lowered. I find that to be an inherently sexist assumption.

Oh please. You want me to expect the vast majority of women who have the "potential" to enroll in the army won't be subjected to lowered normalized standards? Please. One goddamn round from the 120 MM mortar system is 35lbs. You will get fucked with that 35 lbs when your platoon sergeant decides to be a dick and holds your position for a minute or two.

[Napkiraly]

It's not sexist to question the viability of having women in combat roles, or at the least, mixed combat units.

Though I personally disagree, it's not sexist.

The OP thinks the only way women could make it on the battlefield is if training standards are lowered. I find that to be an inherently sexist assumption.

OP said that he recognizes that there are women that can meet the physical standards set for men, just that most cannot.

[Luminesa]

It's not sexist to question the viability of having women in combat roles, or at the least, mixed combat units.

Though I personally disagree, it's not sexist.

The OP thinks the only way women could make it on the battlefield is if training standards are lowered. I find that to be an inherently sexist assumption.

I think he means physical standards, not mental or psychological, necessarily. Like the backpack he showed that was 80lbs or something. And then you have to walk with that for miles.

I mean, I don't think it's sexist for me to admit that I can't carry 80lbs (though then again, I'm a wimp). Maybe some stronger girls can carry heavier loads, but I don't know a lot of girls who can carry that kind of weight. Sure, girls are capable of being chill and focused right alongside the guys. Physically, though, I'm not sure if they could carry the same weight.

[USS Monitor]

I personally can't carry 80lb of equipment, but how should I know about these women they've recruited? I don't know them. I don't know how big they are or how much they can carry.

What kind of boat are you? Can't carry 80 pounds...

I meant IRL.

[Uxupox]

The OP thinks the only way women could make it on the battlefield is if training standards are lowered. I find that to be an inherently sexist assumption.

OP said that he recognizes that there are women that can meet the physical standards set for men, just that most cannot.

I personally know some that would destroy me in close combat.