First female 11X has been accepted

[Napkiraly]

Question for OP: Would you be fine with all female combat units within the United States military?

No.

May I ask why?

[Shaggai]

So, same sex marriage being a topic back in Roman times didn't happen?

HieroclesXElagabalus didn't happen?



Sexist.

The Roman Empire until Christianity saved it was a cesspit of degeneracy, sodomy and paganism. Same goes to the Greeks.

So you're admitting you're wrong that there were no gay people in societies that said women should nurture children and men should go to war?

[Valrifell]

So, same sex marriage being a topic back in Roman times didn't happen?

HieroclesXElagabalus didn't happen?



Sexist.

The Roman Empire until Christianity saved it was a cesspit of degeneracy, sodomy and paganism. Same goes to the Greeks.

Both are regarded as really advanced ancient civilizations and most Western ideals can be traced to those "cesspit[s] of degeneracy" including Democracy. Nifty, eh?

Anyway, nothing to be said other than a "good for her" and a "yay for equality."

[Warped Woods]

Hard to have a father when you send a lot of them to die off somewhere.

If you tell a 5 year old who hasn't been brainwashed by regressive leftists that his father was strong and died for his country, they will grow up respecting them and wanting to be like them.

You poor leftist and rightist sods need a brainwash-off: who brainwashes more children first? Those who win get an army of child soldiers to annihilate the opposition.

[Shofercia]

With a name like Elagabalus...

Actually I just think of Alphabet soup when I see that name. It's just a bunch of letters tossed at a stele really.

Like Irish.

Maybe his parents really hated their son.

"Your kid took up your sword and killed your favorite consort!"
"That's it! I'm renaming him Elagabalus!"

[Islamic Emirate]

The Canadian military has been operating with a gender neutral environment, mixed units, for over a generation now. From what I know, there have not been any major problems with this or combat operations. As well, women are held to a different standard than men.

I think the US military will survive.

The Canadian military hasn't exactly performed in a sterling fashion in Afghanistan.

Holding women to different standards to men only weakens the unit. I have no problem serving along side women who can meet the standard, I doubt anyone would think Ronda Rousey, for example, couldn't complete OSUT. If they can't meet the standard, male or female, they shouldn't be 11Bs or Cs

[Chinese Peoples]

First female recruit to the Infantry? I didn't know that the American Infantry is purely male until the year 2016!

[New Antonalia]

That was a very bad move on the part of the recruiters. They set her up to be dogged for the rest of her military career because if she succeeds she will automatically have this dogma of the untouchable and thus earn resentment from the rest of her unit, and if she failed, the femi-nazis will whine and bitch about how she was unfairly discriminated against because of her gender

[Napkiraly]

Question for OP: Would you be fine with all female combat units within the United States military?

wouldn't that be akin to Segregation in the military before the Korean war?

I suppose, but women were not allowed into combat roles then. If the issue is about efficiency by having women in combat roles with men, then clearly the best way to address the desire to allow women in combat roles while maintaining the efficiency of the units within their given standards is to have all female combat units.

[The balkens]

Actually I just think of Alphabet soup when I see that name. It's just a bunch of letters tossed at a stele really.

Like Irish.

Maybe his parents really hated their son.

"Your kid took up your sword and killed your favorite consort!"
"That's it! I'm renaming him Elagabalus!"

"HEY! ELAGABALUS! MEET ME OUTSIDE THE BATH HOUSE. IM GOING TO MAKE YOU REGRET HAVING THAT NAME!" "Caesar, dont be a dick."

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So, same sex marriage being a topic back in Roman times didn't happen?

HieroclesXElagabalus didn't happen?



Sexist.

The Roman Empire until Christianity saved it was a cesspit of degeneracy, sodomy and paganism. Same goes to the Greeks.

And then the western roman empire fell. After Christianity was a thing.

Being "degenerate" proof didn't do much to help it.

Besides your side stepping the point.

Gay people where a thing in BC times.

Also, approximately 400,000 U.S. women served in support positions with the armed forces in WW2.

Women should be allowed to serve. They are just as qualified as anyone.

[Napkiraly]

The Canadian military has been operating with a gender neutral environment, mixed units, for over a generation now. From what I know, there have not been any major problems with this or combat operations. As well, women are held to a different standard than men.

I think the US military will survive.

The Canadian military hasn't exactly performed in a sterling fashion in Afghanistan.

Your basis for this is what exactly? Furthermore, even if true, is that a result of having mixed gender combat units?

[Shofercia]

Maybe his parents really hated their son.

"Your kid took up your sword and killed your favorite consort!"
"That's it! I'm renaming him Elagabalus!"

"HEY! ELAGABALUS! MEET ME OUTSIDE THE BATH HOUSE. IM GOING TO MAKE YOU REGRET HAVING THAT NAME!" "Caesar, dont be a dick."

Makes me wonder if he had a twin named Eboladickus. Elagabalus and Eboladickus sitting on a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g...

[Falkenheim (Ancient)]

No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.

Yes there were. The Sacred Band of Thebes, one of the most badass military units in ancient Greece, was composed solely of male homosexual partners. The Roman emperor Elagabalus may very well have been transgender.

Yeah, and I've totally heard of those!

[Sunken Island of Rhinomuraena]

It's pretty funny how this thread devolved... only two of the 4 chains are still on the topic...

[Shofercia]

Yes there were. The Sacred Band of Thebes, one of the most badass military units in ancient Greece, was composed solely of male homosexual partners. The Roman emperor Elagabalus may very well have been transgender.

Yeah, and I've totally heard of those!

Are you saying that you haven't heard of Elagabalus?!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

So, same sex marriage being a topic back in Roman times didn't happen?

HieroclesXElagabalus didn't happen?



Sexist.

The Roman Empire until Christianity saved it was a cesspit of degeneracy, sodomy and paganism. Same goes to the Greeks.

They did become an EMPIRE, y'know.

I don't see how Christianity "saved" the most powerful empire in the West.

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On OP:

While I disagree with your notions, I see where you are coming from. All I can say is, good on her. If she can pass boot camp she deserves to be there.

[Islamic Emirate]

The Canadian military hasn't exactly performed in a sterling fashion in Afghanistan.

Your basis for this is what exactly? Furthermore, even if true, is that a result of having mixed gender combat units?

Nah, just that the Canadian Land Forces aren't especially good. And check their combat record...every operation the Canadians have engaged in was basically a disaster until the Americans, British or Norwegians bailed them out.

[Warped Woods]

Let's have a compromise between your two stupid views. Men cannot serve in the military. How about that?

A lot of comments on this thread are...."awful" and "retrograde" are the most delicate words that I can write...

I'm really curious. Which am I?

[The balkens]

The Canadian military hasn't exactly performed in a sterling fashion in Afghanistan.

Your basis for this is what exactly? Furthermore, even if true, is that a result of having mixed gender combat units?

That depends, were any engaged in combat?

[Napkiraly]

Yes there were. The Sacred Band of Thebes, one of the most badass military units in ancient Greece, was composed solely of male homosexual partners. The Roman emperor Elagabalus may very well have been transgender.

Yeah, and I've totally heard of those!

Not my fault if you're ignorant of ancient Greek military history.

[Kautharr]

The Roman Empire until Christianity saved it was a cesspit of degeneracy, sodomy and paganism. Same goes to the Greeks.

They did become an EMPIRE, y'know.

I don't see how Christianity "saved" the most powerful empire in the West.

saved it from sin

[The balkens]

Let's have a compromise between your two stupid views. Men cannot serve in the military. How about that?

A lot of comments on this thread are...."awful" and "retrograde" are the most delicate words that I can write...

I'm really curious. Which am I?

Man.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

The Canadian military has been operating with a gender neutral environment, mixed units, for over a generation now. From what I know, there have not been any major problems with this or combat operations. As well, women are held to a different standard than men.

I think the US military will survive.

The Canadian military hasn't exactly performed in a sterling fashion in Afghanistan.

Um...Operation Athena?

[Uxupox]

No.

May I ask why?

Yes. The United States army (I only have mid average level knowledge of the other branches) but specifically their combat branches. Now a study taken some years ago taken by TRADOC studied the the impact of a success of a mission between mixed-gender units and some all male units. Now in all cases the male units completely demolished their counterparts. And that wasn't a pre-planned event like the best yearly NCO ones are it was one that was conducted at a random time just like the most drug tests. I also already explained a little bit of my position in the OP regarding weight of the equipment and the possibility of lowering the standards.