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Postby Uxupox » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:04 pm

The Army's first female infantry recruit, a 25-year-old police officer from Louisiana, will report to basic training next year.

Tammy Grace Barnett took the oath of enlistment Thursday at Military Entrance Processing Station Shreveport. She plans to serve in military occupational specialty 11X, one of a series of MOSs that opened to women April 1.


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Barnett initially visited Army recruiters in November, she said in an Army news release. She told TV station KSLA that she'd planned to enter the military police ranks, "but infantry is similar, and they are more on the front lines, like law enforcement here, and I said that's what I want to do."

She'll head to Fort Benning, Georgia, in June 2017 for basic training. The 14-month delay "is to allow the Army to properly prepare for new trainees by having trained female officers and [noncommissioned officers] in position," Army Recruiting Battalion Baton Rouge public affairs chief Roger Harmon said via email. "This allows female soldiers the opportunity to attend training and serve in a MOS previously only available to male soldiers."


Another MOS gender barrier fell recently at a recruiting station in Horseheads, a central New York town about 15 miles from the Pennsylvania border. There, Kaitlyn Stanton enlisted as a fire support specialist (MOS 13F), which opened to women April 1 along with 11-series specialties and other combat-related jobs.

Another female 13F recruit is set to enlist early next week in the Seattle area, a Recruiting Command spokesman said.

Barnett plans to celebrate her gender-equity milestone by going fishing with family this weekend. She's also already made some career plans.

"I have served the front lines in my hometown ... and now I am going to serve the front lines for my country,” Barnett said in the release. “I want to deploy, see action, and I definitely want to go to Airborne school.”


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I'm an infantry man specifically an 11C in the US army. Currently I serve as an instructor in mortar related training and frankly my opinion is very low of this maneuver made by high command. I think this is just a disaster waiting to happen because up to this day they still haven't said which standards are females going to adhere to (Which in my opinion should the be normalized ones to graduate) but knowing TRADOC and their bullshit of magnanimous proportions they are gonna fuck it up as always. While I do know that there are woman who exist who can pass the physical requirements to do the job they are far and few in between which makes it economically un viable for the army as they are investing in a soldier and they expect a return investment from that.

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Frankly I don't see the normal female to be able to carry this type of equipment through the day. Which could be upwards of 15 miles or 20 miles depending on when their next objective is. The total weight of his equipment should be upwards to around 80 to 90 lbs. Do you expect somebody who is around 140lb to carry 90lbs of equipment for hours on end?

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Postby Kautharr » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:07 pm

Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.
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Postby Warped Woods » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:09 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The Army's first female infantry recruit, a 25-year-old police officer from Louisiana, will report to basic training next year.

Tammy Grace Barnett took the oath of enlistment Thursday at Military Entrance Processing Station Shreveport. She plans to serve in military occupational specialty 11X, one of a series of MOSs that opened to women April 1.


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Barnett initially visited Army recruiters in November, she said in an Army news release. She told TV station KSLA that she'd planned to enter the military police ranks, "but infantry is similar, and they are more on the front lines, like law enforcement here, and I said that's what I want to do."

She'll head to Fort Benning, Georgia, in June 2017 for basic training. The 14-month delay "is to allow the Army to properly prepare for new trainees by having trained female officers and [noncommissioned officers] in position," Army Recruiting Battalion Baton Rouge public affairs chief Roger Harmon said via email. "This allows female soldiers the opportunity to attend training and serve in a MOS previously only available to male soldiers."


Another MOS gender barrier fell recently at a recruiting station in Horseheads, a central New York town about 15 miles from the Pennsylvania border. There, Kaitlyn Stanton enlisted as a fire support specialist (MOS 13F), which opened to women April 1 along with 11-series specialties and other combat-related jobs.

Another female 13F recruit is set to enlist early next week in the Seattle area, a Recruiting Command spokesman said.

Barnett plans to celebrate her gender-equity milestone by going fishing with family this weekend. She's also already made some career plans.

"I have served the front lines in my hometown ... and now I am going to serve the front lines for my country,” Barnett said in the release. “I want to deploy, see action, and I definitely want to go to Airborne school.”


An insert from here.

I'm an infantry man specifically an 11C in the US army. Currently I serve as an instructor in mortar related training and frankly my opinion is very low of this maneuver made by high command. I think this is just a disaster waiting to happen because up to this day they still haven't said which standards are females going to adhere to (Which in my opinion should the be normalized ones to graduate) but knowing TRADOC and their bullshit of magnanimous proportions they are gonna fuck it up as always. While I do know that there are woman who exist who can pass the physical requirements to do the job they are far and few in between which makes it economically un viable for the army as they are investing in a soldier and they expect a return investment from that.

Image


Frankly I don't see the normal female to be able to carry this type of equipment through the day. Which could be upwards of 15 miles or 20 miles depending on when their next objective is. The total weight of his equipment should be upwards to around 80 to 90 lbs. Do you expect somebody who is around 140lb to carry 90lbs of equipment for hours on end?

Care to share your thoughts?

Well, there are people who can lift their body weight and who have achieved it through training alone. I don't see the issue here. If she can she does it, if not, she trains more or goes to another line of work in the military.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:09 pm

Kautharr wrote:Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.


Assuming that woman had a kid. Many single and married women dont have children
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Postby New Canaustralia » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:10 pm

To be honest, although having women in the army looks like a joke, I wouldn't object it either. Women may have been proven better at thinking, it doesn't mean that the rules for achieving dreams changes, and if it's a woman's dream to get high up in the armed forces, I'm sure (most, don't quote me on that) will bring out everything they got in order to achieve it, and probably make it through.

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Postby Warped Woods » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:10 pm

Kautharr wrote:Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.

Can't have a child without a daddy either. They'll just turn gay from the mother's effeminacy.
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Postby Kautharr » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:13 pm

Warped Woods wrote:
Kautharr wrote:Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.

Can't have a child without a daddy either. They'll just turn gay from the mother's effeminacy.

No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.
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Postby The balkens » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:13 pm

Huh.

good for her.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:13 pm

The Canadian military has been operating with a gender neutral environment, mixed units, for over a generation now. From what I know, there have not been any major problems with this or combat operations. As well, women are held to a different standard than men.

I think the US military will survive.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:15 pm

Kautharr wrote:
Warped Woods wrote:Can't have a child without a daddy either. They'll just turn gay from the mother's effeminacy.

No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.


Hate to break it to you Kautharr, but there have always been gay and transgender people. That and everything you just said is a steamy hunk of bullshit.
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Postby Warped Woods » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:15 pm

Kautharr wrote:
Warped Woods wrote:Can't have a child without a daddy either. They'll just turn gay from the mother's effeminacy.

No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.

That the man knew of, of course. For all he knew, she was teaching her son make-up, fashion and how to impress the boys.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:16 pm

Kautharr wrote:
Warped Woods wrote:Can't have a child without a daddy either. They'll just turn gay from the mother's effeminacy.

No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.

Yes there were. The Sacred Band of Thebes, one of the most badass military units in ancient Greece, was composed solely of male homosexual partners. The Roman emperor Elagabalus may very well have been transgender.
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Kautharr wrote:No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.


Hate to break it to you Kautharr, but there have always been gay and transgender people. That and everything you just said is a steamy hunk of bullshit.


He's probably wondering why darkies are allowed to use the same public facilities as whites too.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:17 pm

Kautharr wrote:
Warped Woods wrote:Can't have a child without a daddy either. They'll just turn gay from the mother's effeminacy.

No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.


You keep believing that fairy tale, there.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:17 pm

Kautharr wrote:Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.


But will they grow to full potential without a father?

Napkiraly wrote:The Canadian military has been operating with a gender neutral environment, mixed units, for over a generation now. From what I know, there have not been any major problems with this or combat operations. As well, women are held to a different standard than men.

I think the US military will survive.


The US army uses different equipment (other than the M240 B and the M249) from the Canadian armed forces. Also the standards in the Canadian military are pretty shit, I once thought that I saw a marooned land whale when it was in fact a Canadian air force serviceman(person?).
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:18 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Kautharr wrote:Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.


But will they grow to full potential without a father?

Dads don't matter *nod*
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Kautharr wrote:No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.


Hate to break it to you Kautharr, but there have always been gay and transgender people. That and everything you just said is a steamy hunk of bullshit.


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Postby Gauthier » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:19 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
But will they grow to full potential without a father?

Dads don't matter *nod*


If they grow up without a father they will turn to gay crime. *nod*
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Kautharr wrote:No, a woman's place is in the home to nurture and raise the children. A man's place is at work or at war. Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.


Hate to break it to you Kautharr, but there have always been gay and transgender people. That and everything you just said is a steamy hunk of bullshit.

I don't care. If we teach children masculinity then we can get minimize it. Boys need a strong father or brother as a role model, and girls need a nurturing mother as a role model.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:21 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Dads don't matter *nod*


If they grow up without a father they will turn to gay crime. *nod*

With gay street gangs. America doesn't need a Blood v Crip feud between the Fabulous and You Spin Me Right 'Round gangs!
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Kautharr wrote:Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.


Hmm... let's do some R63 to this statement to see if its sexest if you replace women with men.
Kautharr wrote:Men shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a Dad, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a Dad.


See, your statement is sexest ether way.
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Postby Kautharr » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:22 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Hate to break it to you Kautharr, but there have always been gay and transgender people. That and everything you just said is a steamy hunk of bullshit.


It looks like sarcasm...always hard to tell on NSG.

I'm not being sarcastic.

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Kautharr wrote:Woman shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a mother, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a mother.


Hmm... let's do some R63 to this statement to see if its sexest if you replace women with men.
Kautharr wrote:Men shouldn't be able to serve anyway. If they die overseas it leaves a child without a Dad, and a child will not grow to their full potential without a Dad.


See, your statement is sexest ether way.

I am a proud... sexest?
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:22 pm

Kautharr wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Hate to break it to you Kautharr, but there have always been gay and transgender people. That and everything you just said is a steamy hunk of bullshit.

I don't care. If we teach children masculinity then we can get minimize it. Boys need a strong father or brother as a role model, and girls need a nurturing mother as a role model.

You mean like the masculinity taught to the Spartan warriors that allowed them to become some of the best warriors in Ancient Greece?
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Postby Sunken Island of Rhinomuraena » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:23 pm

Kautharr wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Hate to break it to you Kautharr, but there have always been gay and transgender people. That and everything you just said is a steamy hunk of bullshit.

I don't care. If we teach children masculinity then we can get minimize it. Boys need a strong father or brother as a role model, and girls need a nurturing mother as a role model.

Why do children need a stereotypical parent as a role model? It wouldn't help them cope with any real-world problems that I know of.
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Napkiraly wrote:
Kautharr wrote:I don't care. If we teach children masculinity then we can get minimize it. Boys need a strong father or brother as a role model, and girls need a nurturing mother as a role model.

You mean like the masculinity taught to the Spartan warriors that allowed them to become some of the best warriors in Ancient Greece?


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