GDR discussing thread

[Ashworth-Attwater]

the DDR was very safe, very beautiful. the average citizen was able to go to the best theaters, the operas, the art galleries. they were able to dine out and enjoy their country to the fullest. they had full job security, universal education, and healthcare. the contrast between the DDR and the FRG were obviously quite stark. the DDR may have looked a bit more gray but any brightness and color that existed in the west was the usual glamour of capitalism, with neon lights and big skyscrapers, masking poverty and scarcity. it was the most well-managed economy in the warsaw pact and its citizens enjoyed a high standard of living. obviously, it was an authoritarian country and the berlin wall absolutely sucked and i cannot stress enough how big of crime the division of germany (and korea) between the allied powers was which i consider to be one of the biggest crimes of the 20th century.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

From modern day perspektive the DDR was of the best it happened to modern day Germany. The Germans in GDR were preservered from the influence of the 68ers cultural relativist students movement and the German guilt complex that is commonly accepted in modern day Western Germany. While the East Germans were aware of Hitlers atrocities the Soviets never implanted this selfhatred. As a result AfD has is stronghold in the former GDR.

In terms of society. Western Germany started the multikulti wahnsinn back in the 1960s while East Germany is well preserved. As such East Germany is relativly homogenous and wish to remain so, just like all Eastern Europe (yes, East Germany has more in common with Poland or Hungary than with Baden-Würtemberg for example). Political corectnes in Eastern Germany does not exist for now.

Now, let us see from the perspective of the Cold War era. East Germany was one of the most industrialised and social welfare states in Europe. It had an higher GDP than Portugal or Spain back than. it had a great army called Nationaler Volksarmee which claimed it roots in the old prussian army (unlike the Bundeswehr which see is a continuation of the Wehrmacht). In terms of politics the GDR was very well respected. After unification in 1989 (or should I say annexation of the BRD) the industry went gone because of mismanaged privatisation carries out by wessies, the new regime started with cultural marxist propaganda and WW2 guilt complex.

Was the unification of Germany in 1989 a mistake?
In my opinion yes. The East Germans suffered a lot throughout in the 90s. It is today the least part of Germany, with great unemployment and the BRD media are making everyday hate speeched against the ebul Ost for not wanting to accept refugees.

Of course this does not mean the German re-unification as a idea is bad. The DDR should instead unconditionally give up their statehood to the BRD had to negotiate and made some terms.

I personally would wish the East Germans would rise up against the Merkel-regime, call the Russians to bring back troops and than againt bring back East Germany. it is for the sake to at least save this part of Germany from cultural enrichment.

i now see an alt rightist make a case for the ddr and therefore renounce everything i said

[Camelza]

It was a regular Eastern Bloc totalitarian shitho-*Stasi officer appears right behind* ...I mean; It was great, phenomenal even! Great anthem, a lot of medals in the Olympics too ...all of them rightfully won, with not a single case of doping, no sir!

[Ashworth-Attwater]

i now see an alt rightist make a case for the ddr and therefore renounce everything i said

I am old guard socialist from the traditions of the early 20th century labour movement.

so you're a tankie (not a socialist) with a hard on for military autocrats. can't see the difference really. horseshoe theory and whatnot. i suggest you start employing the word "cuck" in your vocabulary

[The Greater Aryan Race]

No, since a single-party state means that all political parties are banned except one. Russia and DDR are/is not single-party states.

*sigh*

A one-party state, single-party state, one-party system, or single-party system is a type of state in which one political party has the right to form the government, usually based on the existing constitution. All other parties are either outlawed or allowed to take only a limited and controlled participation in elections

I mean, you can continue to make yourself look silly but the evidence is right there.

Since when are refugees Europeans? Do we owe them something?

Ah glad to see you don't think refugees are human beings who deserve the right to life, liberty and happiness. How unsocialist indeed.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

I am old guard socialist from the traditions of the early 20th century labour movement.

so you're a tankie (not a socialist) with a hard on for military autocrats. can't see the difference really. horseshoe theory and whatnot. i suggest you start employing the word "cuck" in your vocabulary

He's got Bashar al-Assad as his avatar. That's pretty conclusive enough no?

[Mugrul]

If the DDR was such a bastion of anti-SJW'ism..... What is this?

[Ermarian]

It sucked. Maybe not USSR-level sucking, much less DPRK-level, but it was repressive, ugly and corrupt.

(I'm not old enough to have witnessed it first hand, but I've lived in what used to be East Berlin for a few years now, and seen quite a few reminders of that regime.)

[The United Holy German Reich]

It was an overall good country, but the secret police, the Stasi, tainted its reputation.

[The Kievan People]

i now see an alt rightist make a case for the ddr and therefore renounce everything i said

I am old guard socialist from the traditions of the early 20th century labour movement. But good you demonstrated a pavlovian condition.

There is no difference!

[The Kievan People]

If the DDR was such a bastion of anti-SJW'ism..... What is this?

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They locked foreign, mostly non-white, workers in their dormatories at night and deported them if they slept with a German.

[The balkens]

Military kept the goosestep.

Literally all there was.

[Russo-Byzantine Empire]

A hideous, illegitimate, totalitarian abomination. One thing that is quite interesting to note is that very few of the DDR's edge lord supporters are actually German. Oh wait, that's not interesting, that's no shit.

[Kautharr]

I think the DDR was the best Germany, and for all you right wing sh*t's, go to fuc*ing Nazi Germany

nazi = national SOCIALIST lol

[Major-Tom]

I think the DDR was the best Germany, and for all you right wing sh*t's, go to fuc*ing Nazi Germany

Calm down there. We get it, you're 12 years old, just read about Marxism-Leninism on Wikipedia, and want to be a snarky little shit online.

Regardless, calm down.

[Church of the Earth Mother]

Es war eine groesse scheisse an dem gesicht Deutschlands.
Ich gebe danken zum Gott dass sie tot ist.

[Church of the Earth Mother]

I think the DDR was the best Germany, and for all you right wing sh*t's, go to fuc*ing Nazi Germany

nazi = national SOCIALIST lol

In practice, more like nazi corporatists.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

If the DDR was such a bastion of anti-SJW'ism..... What is this?

(Image)

They locked foreign, mostly non-white, workers in their dormatories at night and deported them if they slept with a German.

lol such bullshit

[Cupa]

The GDR was very good, it had universe care, good public housing, and there was no crime. the FDR had crime, no universe care, and it was the US lap dog

[New jalacom]

and it was the US lap dog

yes the FDR was the US lap dog, also the UK, Canada, Australia, etc.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

The GDR was very good, it had universe care, good public housing, and there was no crime. the FDR had crime, no universe care, and it was the US lap dog

Yeah the GDR was just the USSR's lap dog. Keep wearing those rose-tinted lenses buddy.

[Lanwoma]

There is a lot of right wing barsted's here.

[Geilinor]

The GDR was very good, it had universe care, good public housing, and there was no crime. the FDR had crime, no universe care, and it was the US lap dog

Universal health care in Germany dates back to the 1880's. Unless universe care is something else.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

The GDR was very good, it had universe care, good public housing, and there was no crime. the FDR had crime, no universe care, and it was the US lap dog

Universal health care in Germany dates back to the 1880's. Unless universe care is something else.

Some people conveniently forget that Germany's social welfare system was the brainchild of an illiberal, authoritarian monarchist.

[Councilmembers]

It's really quite simple. Any government that forces social change through puppet leaders, corruption, and abusing human rights is terrible. By this simple truth -- the GDR and every other nation that has attempted to institute communism through Lenin's model have failed, and will always fail.