GDR discussing thread

[Australian workers republic]

Hello my working class mates, welcome to the GDR discussing thread, fill free to say the good and the bad things about of the GDR.

[Warped Woods]

You need to make an OP, OP. Put your opinion on it and the basis for it or something.

As for DDR, it sucked.

[Napkiraly]

You need to make an OP, OP. Put your opinion on it and the basis for it or something.

As for DDR, it sucked.

What he said.

[Kwaaal]

Shit country.

[Baltenstein]

Nice national anthem, everything else was either unsustainable or outright shit.

[United Slavians]

GDR was a good idea, reminds me of Weimar Republic for some reason. USSR didn't trust them, but that's expected as they were in a huge war. Even now USA's bases in Germany are still active, so even today Germany isn't as free as people think.

[Krajstali]

If only it resorted to Prussian Socialism rather than Marxist-Leninism. It did better than the other Warsaw Pact states that's one thing for sure but other than that it still sucked.

[Kautharr]

It had a cool flag
that's about it lol

[Mefpan]

I'm not going to cheer for a country that fucking shot its citizens and left them to die in no man's land on the German-German border just because it couldn't be fucking arsed to treat them better.

[Warped Woods]

To be fair, at the time I'd say their sex education was great compared to the German Federal Republic at least.
Source: http://andberlin.com/2014/02/09/sunday-documentary-do-communists-have-better-sex-nsfw/

The documentary itself can be found on DailyMotion, since the video in the article seems to be deleted.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x222wl0_do-communists-have-better-sex_shortfilms

The video itself is not safe for work.

[Kuruinullah]

Trabants, Erich Honecker, and Communism.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

From modern day perspektive the DDR was of the best it happened to modern day Germany. The Germans in GDR were preservered from the influence of the 68ers cultural relativist students movement and the German guilt complex that is commonly accepted in modern day Western Germany. While the East Germans were aware of Hitlers atrocities the Soviets never implanted this selfhatred. As a result AfD has is stronghold in the former GDR.

In terms of society. Western Germany started the multikulti wahnsinn back in the 1960s while East Germany is well preserved. As such East Germany is relativly homogenous and wish to remain so, just like all Eastern Europe (yes, East Germany has more in common with Poland or Hungary than with Baden-Würtemberg for example). Political corectnes in Eastern Germany does not exist for now.

Now, let us see from the perspective of the Cold War era. East Germany was one of the most industrialised and social welfare states in Europe. It had an higher GDP than Portugal or Spain back than. it had a great army called Nationaler Volksarmee which claimed it roots in the old prussian army (unlike the Bundeswehr which see is a continuation of the Wehrmacht). In terms of politics the GDR was very well respected. After unification in 1989 (or should I say annexation of the BRD) the industry went gone because of mismanaged privatisation carries out by wessies, the new regime started with cultural marxist propaganda and WW2 guilt complex.

Was the unification of Germany in 1989 a mistake?
In my opinion yes. The East Germans suffered a lot throughout in the 90s. It is today the least part of Germany, with great unemployment and the BRD media are making everyday hate speeched against the ebul Ost for not wanting to accept refugees.

Of course this does not mean the German re-unification as a idea is bad. The DDR should instead unconditionally give up their statehood to the BRD had to negotiate and made some terms.

I personally would wish the East Germans would rise up against the Merkel-regime, call the Russians to bring back troops and than againt bring back East Germany. it is for the sake to at least save this part of Germany from cultural enrichment.

Yeah, you want to bring back a corrupt, single-party dictatorship that shot it's own citizens and imprisoned many others simply because they wanted a better life for themselves. I expected nothing less from a guy with Bashar al-Assad as his avatar.

[Ashmoria]

You need to make an OP, OP. Put your opinion on it and the basis for it or something.

As for DDR, it sucked.

I wouldn't say it sucked. it was a good attempt at making video games into exercise. but as DANCE it was rather sucky.

[Warped Woods]

You need to make an OP, OP. Put your opinion on it and the basis for it or something.

As for DDR, it sucked.

I wouldn't say it sucked. it was a good attempt at making video games into exercise. but as DANCE it was rather sucky.

I'm more of an ITG fan myself. Kept me at good shape for years.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

First of all the GDR was not a single-party state. In the parliament there was other parties who had represenation.

A one-party state, single-party state, one-party system, or single-party system is a type of state in which one political party has the right to form the government, usually based on the existing constitution. All other parties are either outlawed or allowed to take only a limited and controlled participation in electio

Ergo, the DDR was a single-party state, just like North Korea, the Soviet Union, Ba'ath Iraq and Ba'ath Syria.

Now, although they were officially independent parties they were all puppets of the main party called SED. The other parties buildet with the SED a coalition called Peoples Front.

Thank you for contradicting yourself and admitting that the DDR was a single-party state with the bloc parties wholly insignificant entities that wielded no real power.

Secondly, the SED had to go away from power, and this never happened. In fact it is the West Germans that allowed to continue their activity so that we have today a party called Die Linke, which is a direct descendant of the SED. Today the Die Linke is a man proponent of mass immigration and the World war guilt complex. Also Merkel comes from originally from an east german satelite party.

Because because *gasp* West Germant respects dissenting political viewpoints in a way that East Germany doesn't?

While I do not wish that the old east german regime comes back (in fact they are still today in power only coworking with their western counterparts), I do however wish that the East German state comes back on power.

Why you would want a failed, degenerated Worker's state to come back to life makes no sense whatsoever.

Of course as a democratic multiparty state, and what is most important which will form a front with the Visegrad group (Poland and Hungary). East German have it gone it would be part of the V4 had not been annexed by BRD.

And then all the nations in the world will submit to the authority of Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un the Rotund in his corpulent glory and to the One True Best Korea.

[Napkiraly]

GDR was a good idea, reminds me of Weimar Republic for some reason. USSR didn't trust them, but that's expected as they were in a huge war. Even now USA's bases in Germany are still active, so even today Germany isn't as free as people think.

There are American bases in the UK, are they not as free as well?

[United Slavians]

There are American bases in the UK, are they not as free as well?

You got it.
Where ever there are foreign troops on another countrie's soil, it's either occupied or being used. Either way the country isn't as free as you think.

[Napkiraly]

There are American bases in the UK, are they not as free as well?

You got it.
Where ever there are foreign troops on another countrie's soil, it's either occupied or being used. Either way the country isn't as free as you think.

Sometimes I really wish that face palm emoticon was still around.

Right, the UK is not occupied and the presence of those American bases have nothing to do with the UK's freedom. Canada wasn't occupied when we hosted American bases and our freedom was not affected either.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

There are American bases in the UK, are they not as free as well?

You got it.
Where ever there are foreign troops on another countrie's soil, it's either occupied or being used. Either way the country isn't as free as you think.

Like Russian troops on Ukrainian soil. Or the presence of Soviet occupation troops in the Eastern European states.

[United Slavians]

Like Russian troops on Ukrainian soil. Or the presence of Soviet occupation troops in the Eastern European states.

So now war and peace are the same? I advise you to put salt instead of sugar in your cofee, it makes about as much of a diference.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

No, that is not a single-party state. SP state is when exist only party that has monopoly to compete on elections.

....which was pretty much the political system of the DDR? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

Does this mean according to your logic that Russia is a single-party state?

No, it's an autocracy headed by Putin and his silovik buddies.

And I was contradicting myself

Glad you realized.

since I said all other parties were puppet parties of the main party, sorry but that is not a single-party state.

When all political power has been effectively concentrated in a single party and all other parties exist only for show, what kind of government is that? No prizes for guessing correctly.

If it will be like Poland or Hungary today, than yes.

What, authoritarian and slightly xenophobic towards non-white Europeans?

So now war and peace are the same? I advise you to put salt instead of sugar in your cofee, it makes about as much of a diference.

Hey you're the one who's claiming that a country isn't free when it has foreign troops on its territory. I'm just following your lead.

[East European socialist republics]

I think the DDR was the best Germany, and for all you right wing sh*t's, go to fuc*ing Nazi Germany

[The Greater Aryan Race]

I think the DDR was the best Germany, and for all you right wing sh*t's, go to fuc*ing Nazi Germany

The Best Germany to ever surround themselves with a wall while shooting down their own citizens who tried to escape.

Nah I think Wilhelmine Germany and the modern-day Federal Republic are the best Germanys to have existed.

[Jetan]

GDR was a good idea, reminds me of Weimar Republic for some reason. USSR didn't trust them, but that's expected as they were in a huge war. Even now USA's bases in Germany are still active, so even today Germany isn't as free as people think.

DDR was a dictorial shitstate, and Weimar Republic wasn't exactly functional either.

[Lindenholt]

`The best thing about the DDR were the jokes about it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Germany_jokes