Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:39 amAshmoria wrote:ill need a (real) photo of Donald riding a moose in a river before I can ever associate him with teddy Roosevelt.
I want this to happen.
I want this to happen.
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Is Donald Trump the new Theodore Roosevelt?
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:39 amI want this to happen.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:39 amColbert Super PAC wrote:No. Teddy was a big government statists who supported regulation while Trump stands for freedom!
I would argue with you, but judging by your signature it would be useless to try.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:40 amImperializt Russia wrote:Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
No, he's not. He used to espouse that, but now is a far-right idealogue who wants to punish women for getting abortions.
You've made me defend Trump, so I hope you're happy about that.
But that situation is being taken wildly out of context. Which is a massive shame, because you don't need to take Trump out of context to take him to task.
If, went the hypothetical discussion, abortions were illegal - there would have to be some sort of punishment devised for women who fall foul of such hypothetical legislation.
Still a pretty shit thing to be saying given his garbage approval ratings amongst women, but, y'know, it's hardly even "bad for a Republican" these days.
This is absolutely not the same as saying "women who have abortions should be punished" because the situation and context is radically different.
Apparently pro-life groups see the woman as a victim of coercion, so therefore no punishment for the women. He is actually at a substantially different position from them.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:40 amWhat is happening here is that you all have 2 very different opinions about 2 people who are so much alike, just because you believe mainstream media.
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVQv156vq8&feature=youtu.be
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVQv156vq8&feature=youtu.be
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:41 amThe Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Hell to the fuck no.
Trump is everything that man stood against.
That's like saying MLK and Hitler were the same because they were great public speakers.
Except for racist.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:41 amAiliailia wrote:Is Donald Trump the new Hitler? No.
Hitler wasn't a nice guy, but at least he had some manners.
Never thought I'd agree with something arguably pro-hitler...
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:42 amTavarica wrote:What is happening here is that you all have 2 very different opinions about 2 people who are so much alike, just because you believe mainstream media.
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVQv156vq8&feature=youtu.be
1. We're not gonna watch a YouTube video. I'm in a lecture, also written sources reign supreme.
2. Stop trying to get other people to argue your point for you. Provide evidence. Give us examples of Trump and Roosevelt's policies that are similar in nature and intent.
3. Yes, I believe the BBC, Fox News, CBS, CNN, the New York Times, and the Washington Post, over makeamericagreatagainnews.com and rightwingnews.com and thenewconservativeamericamagafuckwit.com
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:44 amThe Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:ButterCatx wrote:The blatant mis-quoting here is almost humorous.
He LITERALLY AGREED THAT WOMEN WHO GET ABORTIONS SHOULD BE PUNISHED IN A PUBLIC FUCKING INTERVIEW!
How the fuck can you do so many mental gymnastics that your brain can place for gold in the goddamn olympics.
You could at least link the actual interview, rather than a highlight reel.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:44 amTavarica wrote:I think you people don't know what Trump stands for... He has basically the same policy ideas!
"We're going to build a canal, and we're going to make Columbia pay for it!" -- Teddy Roosevelt
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:48 amThe Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:ButterCatx wrote:The blatant mis-quoting here is almost humorous.
He LITERALLY AGREED THAT WOMEN WHO GET ABORTIONS SHOULD BE PUNISHED IN A PUBLIC FUCKING INTERVIEW!
How the fuck can you do so many mental gymnastics that your brain can place for gold in the goddamn olympics.
Paraphrase:
Interviewer: If abortion was illegal who would you punish if a woman got an abortion
Trump: The women.
If someone did illegal drugs would you punish them for it?
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:49 amA few months ago I had this very thought and I wouldn't be inclined to disagree with it. Would it be a good thing for today? Absolutely not. Additionally, Trump simply doesn't have Roosevelt's broad philosophy for the comparison to be wholesale, but it does exist to a degree. Like it or not, Trump is the Teddy Roosevelt of the 21st century.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:49 amButterCatx wrote:The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:He LITERALLY AGREED THAT WOMEN WHO GET ABORTIONS SHOULD BE PUNISHED IN A PUBLIC FUCKING INTERVIEW!
How the fuck can you do so many mental gymnastics that your brain can place for gold in the goddamn olympics.
Paraphrase:
Interviewer: If abortion was illegal who would you punish if a woman got an abortion
Trump: The women.
If someone did illegal drugs would you punish them for it?
No.
I would punish the drug dealer, the drug supplier, and the drug manufacturer, but the drug user needs help.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:49 amButterCatx wrote:The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:He LITERALLY AGREED THAT WOMEN WHO GET ABORTIONS SHOULD BE PUNISHED IN A PUBLIC FUCKING INTERVIEW!
How the fuck can you do so many mental gymnastics that your brain can place for gold in the goddamn olympics.
Paraphrase:
Interviewer: If abortion was illegal who would you punish if a woman got an abortion
Trump: The women.
If someone did illegal drugs would you punish them for it?
So you've gone from lying about him being misquoted to defending him?
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:52 amNo, I support no candidates in the primaries. I am saying that if you are going to quote someone keep it in the original context
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:53 amPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:55 amThe Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:You've made me defend Trump, so I hope you're happy about that.
But that situation is being taken wildly out of context. Which is a massive shame, because you don't need to take Trump out of context to take him to task.
If, went the hypothetical discussion, abortions were illegal - there would have to be some sort of punishment devised for women who fall foul of such hypothetical legislation.
Still a pretty shit thing to be saying given his garbage approval ratings amongst women, but, y'know, it's hardly even "bad for a Republican" these days.
This is absolutely not the same as saying "women who have abortions should be punished" because the situation and context is radically different.
Apparently pro-life groups see the woman as a victim of coercion, so therefore no punishment for the women. He is actually at a substantially different position from them.
well now trumps current stance is that the laws shouldn't change so.....pro-choice.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:55 amButterCatx wrote:The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:He LITERALLY AGREED THAT WOMEN WHO GET ABORTIONS SHOULD BE PUNISHED IN A PUBLIC FUCKING INTERVIEW!
How the fuck can you do so many mental gymnastics that your brain can place for gold in the goddamn olympics.
Paraphrase:
Interviewer: If abortion was illegal who would you punish if a woman got an abortion
Trump: The women.
If someone did illegal drugs would you punish them for it?
No, because it's incredibly dumb to do so. It doesn't achieve anything, it doesn't solve anything.
Not even the social problems surrounding drug use and abuse.
No, the west needs to move on and start seeing drug use by individuals as a public health issue and not a criminal issue, and it can even continue the dumb war on drugs. Or move onto a much more sensible policy cracking down on drug gangs.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:04 amKhadgar wrote:Donald has far more in common with the various South American populists than any US presidents.
Like Chavez.
Although, I really think Trump is most similar to Silvio Berlusconi. I've been saying that since June, before it was cool.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:04 amThe ammount of psuedo intelectual pinko bigots is astounding
They'll be building the wall soon enough
They'll be building the wall soon enough
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:07 amHormuzia wrote:The ammount of psuedo intelectual pinko bigots is astounding
They'll be building the wall soon enough
And that's directed towards who?...
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:08 am
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:08 amPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:10 amHormuzia wrote:The ammount of psuedo intelectual pinko bigots is astounding
They'll be building the wall soon enough
Aye, that will stop the cultural marxist revolution and the Mexican rapists coming over the border.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:12 am
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