Do you care which way Britain votes in the EU referendum?

[Pigeontree]

This is a question that's been on my mind a lot lately - how many people care whether Britain stays in the EU or not?

So rather than asking stay/leave, I decided to ask that very question. Yes if it matters to you (regardless of which way you want it to go) and No if you just aren't bothered what happens.

I have separated the options as you can see because I thought it would give a better picture of whether people in Britain care more about it than people elsewhere.

Please feel free to elaborate on why you care or don't care, or indeed to advocate staying or leaving. Personally I'm in the 'don't care' camp at the moment but remain open to being convinced one way or the other.

[Pachenstein]

I'm British and I care. I think that the EU is beneficial to the UK at this moment in time and I hope we stay in.

[Imperializt Russia]

We have a megathread on the topic.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=369356

[Sovereign Dutch East India]

Of course I care about our fate in or out of the EU!
This is, perhaps, the biggest electoral decision we may ever make- it will impact on everything in our lives, very much like a general election. Our decision to stay, or to leave, will influence almost everything- the prices of our food & petrol, the rules & regulations on businesses and the products we buy, to our treatment when we are arrested or investigated by the police, to the trade deals with have with foreign countries (which provide jobs, and tax revenue). It will influence city regulation, and interest rates... Indeed, it will even affect the quality of our dishwashers! It is a complex argument, granted, and that might put some people off, but that is entirely the wrong attitude to have. Rather than brush off something complicated, we must strive to understand it, and make a decision we know will have such massive impact on our future.

[Pigeontree]

That's been my problem - I can usually digest and formulate opinions on most things in society, especially politics, but I find the EU debate so incredibly complex that I'm still having trouble unravelling it in my mind.

I hope to make a decision by the time it happens.

Thanks for the link to the megathread; I had missed that.

[Sovereign Dutch East India]

That's been my problem - I can usually digest and formulate opinions on most things in society, especially politics, but I find the EU debate so incredibly complex that I'm still having trouble unravelling it in my mind.

I hope to make a decision by the time it happens.

Thanks for the link to the megathread; I had missed that.

I would recommend the BBC as a good, unbiased source for information. I have found the topic very, very interesting for years; I understand both arguments well, however I do recommend that you do some serious research to make an informed choice. As I stated, it is your life and that of your children it will be impacting.

[Eol Sha]

Yes, I do care. Britain leaving the EU will have serious repercussions on the whole world. Not just Britain and the EU. Hopefully they'll choose to stay.

[Kelinfort]

I don't have any investments there, but the market will tumble for a couple of days. Eh, I don't give a shit. Crazy Brits can do what they want.

[New Benian Republic]

Yes I care, it might make a hard border in the north making trade harder.

[Leudal (Ancient)]

Ofcourse i care and i hope that the UK will be the first to step out of the EU and show the world that its not as problematic as some desire to portray it.

[Setgavarius]

I care a little about it, as I'm for EU unification into an eventual union.

Ofcourse i care and i hope that the UK will be the first to step out of the EU and show the world that its not as problematic as some desire to portray it.

problema est qui facis ei

[Messeren]

I'm divided. The EU itself is not very effective politically, and it if continues to have a sustained negative reception for failing to do anything then as a Brit I would vote out. This does leave us vulnerable however. The combined might of the EU has the second largest army in the world (behind China) and the strongest economy (the Euro is worth more than the dollar, and within the EU there's enough of it of that value to ensure the EU economy is stronger than that of the US) making it a superpower consisting of those many nations, of which Britain is a primary player. Britain leaving would make both the UK and the EU vulnerable to be overtaken both militarily and economically, and with the way politics are shifting in the United States and the increasing belligerence of the Russian Federation, I'd say for now we need to remain in for mutual security.

[Sovereign Dutch East India]

I'm divided. The EU itself is not very effective politically, and it if continues to have a sustained negative reception for failing to do anything then as a Brit I would vote out. This does leave us vulnerable however. The combined might of the EU has the second largest army in the world (behind China) and the strongest economy (the Euro is worth more than the dollar, and within the EU there's enough of it of that value to ensure the EU economy is stronger than that of the US) making it a superpower consisting of those many nations, of which Britain is a primary player. Britain leaving would make both the UK and the EU vulnerable to be overtaken both militarily and economically, and with the way politics are shifting in the United States and the increasing belligerence of the Russian Federation, I'd say for now we need to remain in for mutual security.

You have taken the words out of my mouth (or rather, away from my fingers.) Everybody has heard this argument dozens of times, however when we joined the EU, it was a trading-organisation- a common market, which, in 1975, Britain, as a declining nation, simply had to be apart of. However, I can't help but feel somewhat intimidated by the fact that we are looking at more and more integration into a super-state, with a Commission, with a Parliament. Very much like you, I am split between my natural instinct to expand the UK's horizons economically and otherwise by leaving the EU, and possibly becoming marginalised, or remaining in the European Union, and risking further integration this country isn't prepared to engage in. Clearly, we are not going to shrink by leaving the European Union, however such a big step could stifle the growth we have seen in the last few years; likewise, without being in the Eurozone, it is a genuine concern that we me may be shrunk within the EU, and marginalised by countries such as France, and Germany.
It is a difficult situation, however that certainly does not mean we brush it off; I rather think this quote by Thomas Paine fits the situation perfectly: 'A mind, once enlightened, cannot again become dark.'

[The Romulan Republic]

Absolutely.

US/Canadian citizen, I strongly favour Britain remaining in the EU.

[Saiwania]

Britain leaving would make both the UK and the EU vulnerable to be overtaken both militarily and economically, and with the way politics are shifting in the United States and the increasing belligerence of the Russian Federation, I'd say for now we need to remain in for mutual security.

I wouldn't worry about the EU even remotely challenging the UK on the military front. Apart from France, the EU has no strong nations within it. Germany's military is in bad shape and the rest of the EU nations spend next to nothing on their militaries and can't even come close to Germany, which can't fight even an easy opponent as is. It isn't just the UK I want rejecting EU membership, I want all of the EU nations to leave so the EU itself will wind up permanently disbanded. I want the European project to fail.

[Alimprad]

though the destruction of the European project is innevitable, it's unquenchable thirst for expansion (soon Ukraine and Turkey) and continueing federalisation (soon to be a federalised coast gaurd and military), a Brexit will decide whether the EU is nearing it's last hoorah or whether the federalists' struggle gets to continue for many years, Brexit will decide the future of the EU, so of course I care.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

no. i'm half-supporing the "leave" option because i wanna see shit burn. same reason why I supported the "yes" vote in the scottish referendum.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

I don't have any investments there, but the market will tumble for a couple of days. Eh, I don't give a shit. Crazy Brits can do what they want.

lol are you really an investor? that explains your political views. now i'm going to call you out whenever you say something neoliberal

"i think x country needs a more center-right government"

"you'd like that wouldn't you foreign profiteer"

[Ethel mermania]

As an American I do care. I think the EU is a good idea gone way to far. I would like to see Britian exit, and the rest of the EU, stop being such douchebags,threatening to economically castrate britian, if they do.

[Imperializt Russia]

I would just like to remind the posters in this thread (for the second time, it happens) that there is an established thread for the Brexit vote.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=369356

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

no. i'm half-supporing the "leave" option because i wanna see shit burn. same reason why I supported the "yes" vote in the scottish referendum.

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I have no words for this shit.

[The Imperium Empires]

While its important the Britain stay in the EU I'm not that fussed if they leave. My country won't be effected but i can see why it would be bad if they did leave.

[The Imperium Empires]

Sorry for the double post

[Kleynst]

Yes because I am a citizen of the EU.

[Teemant]

I don't care very much because it doesn't matter that much because European Union will continue to exist, it doesn't matter which way they vote.
If we would be talking about Germany or France doing such referendum then it would be a serious situation.