Christian Discussion Thread VII: The Christ Awakens.

[Novsvacro]

There is a problem, since Scripture is explicit in saying that "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

Do you ask others to pray for you?

No, I don't, personally. Not that I have a problem with it.

I don't understand why we need 'help' in contacting the Father except through the gateway of Christ.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I want you in Heaven with me and everyone else! *Tugs arm.*

COME ON!!! X3

Nonsense, come with me to Hell and we'll smoke cigars with Allen Ginsberg.

Pretty sure the only cigars in hell are made by Dutch Masters

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Our relationships with our brothers and sisters in Christ isn't broken because of an itty-bitty thing like physical death.

Yep. There's no difference between me asking someone in this thread to pray for me and asking a Saint to pray for me.

Other than the fact that we're all presumably on Earth, and a Saint an tap God on the arm so to speak.

[The Princes of the Universe]

Just saw a movie on EWTN about St. Giuseppe Moscati. They don't make 'em like that anymore.

[Luminesa]

Do you ask others to pray for you?

No, I don't, personally. Not that I have a problem with it.

I don't understand why we need 'help' in contacting the Father except through the gateway of Christ.

I ask people to pray for me all the time. Mainly because I need the prayers.

But that's the thing. In the Body of Christ, we're a family. We help each other out physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually.

Or as Needtobreathe puts it:

I ain't made for a rivalry, I can never take the world alone.

I know that in my weakness I am strong, but it's your love that brings me home.

Or Gavin DeGraw, depending on whether it's the single-version or the album-cut. (I prefer the single, with Gavin. )

[Luminesa]

Just saw a movie on EWTN about St. Giuseppe Moscati. They don't make 'em like that anymore.

Nope. They really don't.

WE NEED A MOVIE ON ST. ATHANASIUS!!!

CONST AND I WILL DO THE SCREENPLAY!!!

Who wants to be Athanasius?

[Diopolis]

Just saw a movie on EWTN about St. Giuseppe Moscati. They don't make 'em like that anymore.

Nope. They really don't.

WE NEED A MOVIE ON ST. ATHANASIUS!!!

CONST AND I WILL DO THE SCREENPLAY!!!

Who wants to be Athanasius?

I'll do it.
It's been a while since I acted.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Do you ask others to pray for you?

No, I don't, personally. Not that I have a problem with it.

I don't understand why we need 'help' in contacting the Father except through the gateway of Christ.

A Saint isn't a gate way to the Father. You can pray to your Father in heaven all you want. Heck even the Rosary starts with and includes many repetitions of the "Our Father." A Saint is a person who has be assumed into Heaven. They're venerable Christians who you pray to essentially be in your corner, and pray on your behalf as well. Very few saints are actually invoked to do anything more. I believe St. Michael (being an Archangel) is the only one.

[Jumalariik]

Yep. There's no difference between me asking someone in this thread to pray for me and asking a Saint to pray for me.

Other than the fact that we're all presumably on Earth, and a Saint an tap God on the arm so to speak.

Wouldn't God being omniscient mean that he doesn't need to have a tap on the arm? He knows what we want, He knows what anybody prays for, a saint or the worst sinner can pray.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Other than the fact that we're all presumably on Earth, and a Saint an tap God on the arm so to speak.

Wouldn't God being omniscient mean that he doesn't need to have a tap on the arm? He knows what we want, He knows what anybody prays for, a saint or the worst sinner can pray.

You're injecting meaning where none exists. I never said only saints could pray, or that God doesn't hear prayers. MY comment was about proximity, not ability.

[Athenasius]

Who wants to be Athanasius?

Me!

[The Princes of the Universe]

Who wants to be Athanasius?

Me!

[The Alexanderians]

The fossil record is something put together by fallible humans and takes just as much faith to believe in as a YEC view of Genesis. I was not there at the beginning of everything, but God was. He chose to record how He did it in Genesis. We cannot recreate the past. For something to be considered scientific, it has to be testable through repeated experiments. Evolution from the first stage to current lifeforms cannot be repeated (if it happened), and I do not recall any experiments.

Btw, both evolutionists and creationists have the same evidence, the natural world, but each side interprets that evidence differently.

I also find it utterly preposterous that my great great great great great great (and so on) grandfather was a lizard.

How do you decide which parts of the Bible to interpret literally & which parts to interpret metaphorically?

That very question has nearly sparked wars

[Luminesa]

Who wants to be Athanasius?

Me!

Well, now we have to vote...actually...

Wait! You and Dio can BOTH be Athanasius!

Dio can be the stunt-double!

Which means he gets to do all the amazing stunts, like mountain-climbing and fighting dragons and...

Oh wait...wait...

You know what? We're going with it. Athanasius climbs up a mountain after being exiled and thrown off a mountainside, and when he gets back up he finds Excalibur and kills a demon-dragon that is planning to take over the world. He kills it and makes armor out of the dragon!

(LUMI!)

(Whut.)

(This is not Skyrim.)

(It is now. FUS ROH DAH, BABY!!!)

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

(It is now. FUS ROH DAH, BABY!!!)

Firebreath is a better shout.

[Luminesa]

(It is now. FUS ROH DAH, BABY!!!)

Firebreath is a better shout.

But I like Skyrim!

[Athenasius]

Me!

Well, now we have to vote...actually...

Wait! You and Dio can BOTH be Athanasius!

Dio can be the stunt-double!

Which means he gets to do all the amazing stunts, like mountain-climbing and fighting dragons and...

Oh wait...wait...

You know what? We're going with it. Athanasius climbs up a mountain after being exiled and thrown off a mountainside, and when he gets back up he finds Excalibur and kills a demon-dragon that is planning to take over the world. He kills it and makes armor out of the dragon!

(LUMI!)

(Whut.)

(This is not Skyrim.)

(It is now. FUS ROH DAH, BABY!!!)

But I am really Athanasius! Like, 100% really Athanasius.

Just maybe not St. Athanasius. But my name really is Atanas, which is Bulgarian form of Athanasius. xD

And YOL TOOR SHUL! (Fire breath)

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Firebreath is a better shout.

But I like Skyrim!

I was talking about Skyrim

Yol Toor Shul is a better dragonshout.

[Luminesa]

Well, now we have to vote...actually...

Wait! You and Dio can BOTH be Athanasius!

Dio can be the stunt-double!

Which means he gets to do all the amazing stunts, like mountain-climbing and fighting dragons and...

Oh wait...wait...

You know what? We're going with it. Athanasius climbs up a mountain after being exiled and thrown off a mountainside, and when he gets back up he finds Excalibur and kills a demon-dragon that is planning to take over the world. He kills it and makes armor out of the dragon!

(LUMI!)

(Whut.)

(This is not Skyrim.)

(It is now. FUS ROH DAH, BABY!!!)

But I am really Athanasius! Like, 100% really Athanasius.

Just maybe not St. Athanasius. But my name really is Atanas, which is Bulgarian form of Athanasius. xD

And YOL TOOR SHUL! (Fire breath)

Aight. You're in.

But we make Dio stunt-double. Actually...

He can climb the mountain and you can kill the dragon. Sounds fair? :3

[Novsvacro]

Me!

Well, now we have to vote...actually...

Wait! You and Dio can BOTH be Athanasius!

Dio can be the stunt-double!

Which means he gets to do all the amazing stunts, like mountain-climbing and fighting dragons and...

Oh wait...wait...

You know what? We're going with it. Athanasius climbs up a mountain after being exiled and thrown off a mountainside, and when he gets back up he finds Excalibur and kills a demon-dragon that is planning to take over the world. He kills it and makes armor out of the dragon!

(LUMI!)

(Whut.)

(This is not Skyrim.)

(It is now. FUS ROH DAH, BABY!!!)

But whether he can offer his soul to the Draedric Princes is the real question.

[Novsvacro]

Other than the fact that we're all presumably on Earth, and a Saint an tap God on the arm so to speak.

Wouldn't God being omniscient mean that he doesn't need to have a tap on the arm? He knows what we want, He knows what anybody prays for, a saint or the worst sinner can pray.

This. I'm still awfully confused by the concept of free will since I come from a hard determinist background.

[Luminesa]

Well, now we have to vote...actually...

Wait! You and Dio can BOTH be Athanasius!

Dio can be the stunt-double!

Which means he gets to do all the amazing stunts, like mountain-climbing and fighting dragons and...

Oh wait...wait...

You know what? We're going with it. Athanasius climbs up a mountain after being exiled and thrown off a mountainside, and when he gets back up he finds Excalibur and kills a demon-dragon that is planning to take over the world. He kills it and makes armor out of the dragon!

(LUMI!)

(Whut.)

(This is not Skyrim.)

(It is now. FUS ROH DAH, BABY!!!)

But whether he can offer his soul to the Draedric Princes is the real question.

Probably not. Most of them seem to be jerks.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

(It is now. FUS ROH DAH, BABY!!!)

Firebreath is a better shout.

Nah, the one where you trap dragons, and the one where you dash, That and summoning a dragon to ride and fight on your side. All better shouts.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Wouldn't God being omniscient mean that he doesn't need to have a tap on the arm? He knows what we want, He knows what anybody prays for, a saint or the worst sinner can pray.

This. I'm still awfully confused by the concept of free will since I come from a hard determinist background.

And see my response.

[Constantinopolis]

Other than the fact that we're all presumably on Earth, and a Saint an tap God on the arm so to speak.

Wouldn't God being omniscient mean that he doesn't need to have a tap on the arm? He knows what we want, He knows what anybody prays for, a saint or the worst sinner can pray.

Following that logic, why do you pray at all in the first place? After all, since God already knows what you want, why bother to say it out loud in words?

You know what? We're going with it. Athanasius climbs up a mountain after being exiled and thrown off a mountainside, and when he gets back up he finds Excalibur and kills a demon-dragon that is planning to take over the world. He kills it and makes armor out of the dragon!

Ah. I see you are already handling historical accuracy like a real Hollywood screenwriter. You've got a natural talent for this!

You should work with Michael Bay.

Who wants to be Athanasius?

I'll do it.
It's been a while since I acted.

Who wants to be Athanasius?

Me!

Alright. There is only one way to settle this. We must have... a beard-off! First one to grow a beard like St. Athanasius wins.