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by The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:02 am
by Uxupox » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:10 am
Ashworth-Attwater wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-35918844
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/art ... c3495adf4/BBC News wrote:Eleven million documents were leaked from one of the world's most secretive companies, Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca. They show how Mossack Fonseca has helped clients launder money, dodge sanctions and evade tax.
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The documents show links to 72 current or former heads of state in the data, including dictators accused of looting their own countries.Süddeutsche Zeitung wrote:The data provides rare insights into a world that can only exist in the shadows. It proves how a global industry led by major banks, legal firms, and asset management companies secretly manages the estates of the world’s rich and famous: from politicians, Fifa officials, fraudsters and drug smugglers, to celebrities and professional athletes.
So, NSG, Mossack Fonseca, a Panamanian law firm known for being cozy with dictators, banks, the super rich and overall international scumbags has had 2.6 terabytes of data leaked (c. 11.5 million documents, ranging from the 1970's to 2016) revealing how said scumbags use tax havens to hide their money. The families of Putin, Hosni Mubarak, Muammar Gadaffi and Bashar al-Assad are being implicated in the scandal, but perhaps most surprisingly, it seems that even the prime minister of Iceland, supposedly one of the least corrupt countries in the world, is being investigated over the purchase of an offshore company in 2007. He did not declare an interest in the company when entering parliament in 2009.
A lot of questions have been asked: where does the money come from? Where is it going? Is this structure legal? So, what do you think, fellow NSGers? Should we do more to hold the world's political and financial elite accountable? What do you think should be done about corporate law firms such as Mossack Fonseca, which is well-known for helping those people circumvent the law? Comment below.
Also, it seems Argentine neoliberal messiah Mauricio Macri's family is also implicated in this scandal. Shocking! (but not for me).
by Frank Zipper » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:31 am
Shofercia wrote:Actually, if they're blatantly lying, they can be shut down. And if you're contradicting facts, there's some probability that you're lying. The First Amendment doesn't apply outside of the United States.
by Tule » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:33 am
Merizoc wrote:
Unfamiliar with the exact system. Will this trigger elections, or will a deputy of some sort just take over?
by Panslavicland » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:37 am
Shofercia wrote:Frank Zipper wrote:
The Manchester gangster Don Arden had all his assets in the name of his daughter. The fact that she was an innocent schoolgirl did not mean that he wasn't a gangster.
Did you not read my post? From the Guardian's trash, I mean article: She used agents in the Isle of Man who wrote in emails that the company was to be used for investments.
I'd like to see proof of that. If not, Guardian's probably liable to be sued for defamation in Russia, and the Bill Clinton defense won't work.
by Alistan » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:00 pm
by Shamhnan Insir » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:06 pm
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
by Novus America » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:08 pm
by Eol Sha » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:11 pm
by Shamhnan Insir » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:16 pm
Eol Sha wrote:I read the New York Times' article on Iceland's PM resigning. Damn. Did not know it was this serious.
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
by Eol Sha » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:17 pm
by Shamhnan Insir » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:21 pm
Eol Sha wrote:Shamhnan Insir wrote:Well he is one of the "touchables" on the list. The like of the King of Saudi Arabia or most of the Chinese communist leaders won't even break a sweat.
That's probably true. Although, Xi JInping has been trying to crack down on corruption so maybe he'll continue forward on that path and bust the people implicated in the leak.
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
by Sanctissima » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:24 pm
by Novus America » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:24 pm
by Thomas Insaniac » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:29 pm
Novus America wrote:Shamhnan Insir wrote:I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty sure he is one of the people on the list.
Xi is on the list. Big difference though. Unlike Iceland in China information is controlled, the population brainwashed and under constant surveillance, and any opposition to Xi will be crushed without mercy.
by Novus America » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:33 pm
by Shamhnan Insir » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:35 pm
Thomas Insaniac wrote:Novus America wrote:
Xi is on the list. Big difference though. Unlike Iceland in China information is controlled, the population brainwashed and under constant surveillance, and any opposition to Xi will be crushed without mercy.
It's already been censored in China
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-35957235
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
by The Conez Imperium » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:37 pm
by Thomas Insaniac » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:37 pm
Shamhnan Insir wrote:Thomas Insaniac wrote:
It's already been censored in China
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-35957235
Yeah it got banned at somepoint yesterday. If you search for anything like it on Chinas authorised search engine it pops up with a warning that viewing the material is a criminal offence.
Lot of South African links too, but again I think they might be in the untouchables catagory with the Saudi King and Putin.
by Shofercia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:42 pm
Frank Zipper wrote:Shofercia wrote:Actually, if they're blatantly lying, they can be shut down. And if you're contradicting facts, there's some probability that you're lying. The First Amendment doesn't apply outside of the United States.
The Icelandic PM resigning seems to support the accusations being true.
Panslavicland wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Did you not read my post? From the Guardian's trash, I mean article: She used agents in the Isle of Man who wrote in emails that the company was to be used for investments.
I'd like to see proof of that. If not, Guardian's probably liable to be sued for defamation in Russia, and the Bill Clinton defense won't work.
The article you linked to has a document which shows Bridgewater, which is an Isle of Man based company as the administrators of the company Tatiana Navka is alleged to be the beneficial owner, so they would probably use that as their defence. Not that they have supplied any evidence she is actually involved besides the passport, utility bills and the verification from her bank which as you have already pointed out could have been obtained by anyone with a slight connection to her.
And even if she is the owner its still none of the Guardians business. I hope she sues for invasion of privacy. I hope its like Gawker all over again.
by Shamhnan Insir » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:43 pm
Thomas Insaniac wrote:Shamhnan Insir wrote:Yeah it got banned at somepoint yesterday. If you search for anything like it on Chinas authorised search engine it pops up with a warning that viewing the material is a criminal offence.
Lot of South African links too, but again I think they might be in the untouchables catagory with the Saudi King and Putin.
Instead of listing untouchables, we should be listing those who will actually be affected.
Aside from the PM of Iceland, anyone else to worry about? Well except for the guy who leaked this, he'll probably be found out and found in a body bag.
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
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