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Which team will win the Finals?

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Postby Ganos Lao » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:45 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Wait a team from Cleveland won something? :blink:


Two, in fact! :p



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Postby Val Halla » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:53 am

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No more "greatest team ever", that remains the Bulls (what a relief!)

But I do not want to say "choke", although Klay did (a slap at Curry?). Saying that the loser choked takes deserved credit away from the winners.

All credit should go to Cleveland.

What about the Warriors that couldn't score in the final 4:39 of Game 7? At least a couple of baskets should fall in. The Warriors are literally punching walls and let a moment slip away, especially at the final minutes. Literally, a college team could score more or even a highly incompetent team like the 76ers can score in the final 4:39. Biggest choke in the history of chokes.

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Postby Idzequitch » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:51 am

The KD waiting games have begun. I hope he doesn't do anything as gaudy as The DecisionTM
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Idzequitch wrote:The KD waiting games have begun. I hope he doesn't do anything as gaudy as The DecisionTM

Imagine if he did something weird like sign for the Grizzlies or something
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:24 am

Val Halla wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:The KD waiting games have begun. I hope he doesn't do anything as gaudy as The DecisionTM

Imagine if he did something weird like sign for the Grizzlies or something

Somewhere, but where? This offseasom hinges on where Durant will play.
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Outer Sparta wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Imagine if he did something weird like sign for the Grizzlies or something

Somewhere, but where? This offseasom hinges on where Durant will play.

He's staying in OKC. The big questions are what Celtics will do with their pick, if Butler gets traded, and where DeRozan is off
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:09 am

Val Halla wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Somewhere, but where? This offseasom hinges on where Durant will play.

He's staying in OKC. The big questions are what Celtics will do with their pick, if Butler gets traded, and where DeRozan is off

What about Biyombo as well? And how will Golden State ever recover? That game was a kick to the shin for the whole Warriors team, management, and fans, and won't recover.
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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:09 am

Val Halla wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Somewhere, but where? This offseasom hinges on where Durant will play.

He's staying in OKC. The big questions are what Celtics will do with their pick, if Butler gets traded, and where DeRozan is off

This is a key part. OKC is in a very good position to contend. They have a very good team, solid coach and obviously 2 of the league's top stars and a pretty good balance. Durant ain't going anywhere.

There is still a good chance DeRozan stays in Toronto, tbh. That'll lead to them letting go of Biyombo and a couple of others, but right now signing Demar may be the biggest priority there for Raptors the last while or so. If not, expect this offseason to be a retooling one for Toronto.

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Val Halla wrote:He's staying in OKC. The big questions are what Celtics will do with their pick, if Butler gets traded, and where DeRozan is off

What about Biyombo as well? And how will Golden State ever recover? That game was a kick to the shin for the whole Warriors team, management, and fans, and won't recover.

Biyombo's not the big question right now, nor even close to that. Only the lack of dominant centres in this league rn is making the question little bit bigger.

With Golden State, I'll ask you this question : Did Chicago Bulls recover from getting eliminated twice by Pistons earlier in MJ23's career?
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Postby Cheongji » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:37 am

Wow. Curry lost my respect, when he threw that mouthguard. My cheering for GSW is over.

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Postby Val Halla » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:46 am

The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:
Val Halla wrote:He's staying in OKC. The big questions are what Celtics will do with their pick, if Butler gets traded, and where DeRozan is off

This is a key part. OKC is in a very good position to contend. They have a very good team, solid coach and obviously 2 of the league's top stars and a pretty good balance. Durant ain't going anywhere.

There is still a good chance DeRozan stays in Toronto, tbh. That'll lead to them letting go of Biyombo and a couple of others, but right now signing Demar may be the biggest priority there for Raptors the last while or so. If not, expect this offseason to be a retooling one for Toronto.

Outer Sparta wrote:What about Biyombo as well? And how will Golden State ever recover? That game was a kick to the shin for the whole Warriors team, management, and fans, and won't recover.

Biyombo's not the big question right now, nor even close to that. Only the lack of dominant centres in this league rn is making the question little bit bigger.

With Golden State, I'll ask you this question: Did Chicago Bulls recover from getting eliminated twice by Pistons earlier in MJ23's career?

2 of the best centers in the league, Cousins and KAT, are best know for the ability to stretch the floor
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Cheongji wrote:Wow. Curry lost my respect, when he threw that mouthguard. My cheering for GSW is over.


If that's your reason for not cheering for an entire team because of one player's antics, then sports really isn't for you. :p



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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:05 pm

Val Halla wrote:
The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:This is a key part. OKC is in a very good position to contend. They have a very good team, solid coach and obviously 2 of the league's top stars and a pretty good balance. Durant ain't going anywhere.

There is still a good chance DeRozan stays in Toronto, tbh. That'll lead to them letting go of Biyombo and a couple of others, but right now signing Demar may be the biggest priority there for Raptors the last while or so. If not, expect this offseason to be a retooling one for Toronto.


Biyombo's not the big question right now, nor even close to that. Only the lack of dominant centres in this league rn is making the question little bit bigger.

With Golden State, I'll ask you this question: Did Chicago Bulls recover from getting eliminated twice by Pistons earlier in MJ23's career?

2 of the best centers in the league, Cousins and KAT, are best know for the ability to stretch the floor

I was comparing the top centres of now to like let's say 1990s tho, when the likes of Robinson, Olajuwon, Ewing and younger Shaq ruled the court. Nowadays the centres aren't as high-powered and really they have to stretch the floor in order to survive.
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Postby Idzequitch » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:30 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Cheongji wrote:Wow. Curry lost my respect, when he threw that mouthguard. My cheering for GSW is over.


If that's your reason for not cheering for an entire team because of one player's antics, then sports really isn't for you. :p

Well, that's the thing with bandwagon fans. As soon as the going gets rough, they jump ship. That's how it works.

Meanwhile, somebody realized that Stephen A. Smith has picked the Finals incorrectly each of the past six years.
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Postby Idzequitch » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:43 pm

My thoughts on KD. Where is he going to go that is better than OKC? Sure everyone seems to want him to go to his hometown team in DC, but is he really willing to leave a contender to go home to a team that honestly isn't very good? I don't see it happening. Same story with the Lakers and Sixers. He's a competitor. He wants to win a championship. He's not going to want to be part of a rebuilding project.

In addition, he works well with Westbrook, Donovan is taking that team in a good direction, he knows the guys on the team, and this is key, they know how to beat the Warriors. They choked and didn't advance, but they've shown that they can do it. Ditto the Spurs. I'm actually curious how they would have done versus the Cavs had they won that final game against Golden State.

Bottom line for me, if he's looking to win a championship, and he is, his best move would be to stay put in OKC.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:43 pm

Idzequitch wrote:Ditto the Spurs


You may have managed to fend off the silver and black, but you couldn't break the Spurs curse. ;)



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The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:
Val Halla wrote:2 of the best centers in the league, Cousins and KAT, are best know for the ability to stretch the floor

I was comparing the top centres of now to like let's say 1990s tho, when the likes of Robinson, Olajuwon, Ewing and younger Shaq ruled the court. Nowadays the centres aren't as high-powered and really they have to stretch the floor in order to survive.

Well, there is a fair amount of dominant low post centres still, particularly Drummond and Jordan. But yeah, stretch is becoming more important.

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Ganos Lao wrote:
If that's your reason for not cheering for an entire team because of one player's antics, then sports really isn't for you. :p

Well, that's the thing with bandwagon fans. As soon as the going gets rough, they jump ship. That's how it works.

Meanwhile, somebody realized that Stephen A. Smith has picked the Finals incorrectly each of the past six years.

Stephen A's analysis is about as good as the Samoan national soccer team

Idzequitch wrote:My thoughts on KD. Where is he going to go that is better than OKC? Sure everyone seems to want him to go to his hometown team in DC, but is he really willing to leave a contender to go home to a team that honestly isn't very good? I don't see it happening. Same story with the Lakers and Sixers. He's a competitor. He wants to win a championship. He's not going to want to be part of a rebuilding project.

In addition, he works well with Westbrook, Donovan is taking that team in a good direction, he knows the guys on the team, and this is key, they know how to beat the Warriors. They choked and didn't advance, but they've shown that they can do it. Ditto the Spurs. I'm actually curious how they would have done versus the Cavs had they won that final game against Golden State.

Bottom line for me, if he's looking to win a championship, and he is, his best move would be to stay put in OKC.

Spurs ain't happening. Leonard and Aldridge already occupy KD's positions. Unless you go small, making Leonard the 2 guard and Aldridge center, with (probably) Marjanovic off the bench, he won't go
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:57 pm

The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:
Val Halla wrote:He's staying in OKC. The big questions are what Celtics will do with their pick, if Butler gets traded, and where DeRozan is off

This is a key part. OKC is in a very good position to contend. They have a very good team, solid coach and obviously 2 of the league's top stars and a pretty good balance. Durant ain't going anywhere.

There is still a good chance DeRozan stays in Toronto, tbh. That'll lead to them letting go of Biyombo and a couple of others, but right now signing Demar may be the biggest priority there for Raptors the last while or so. If not, expect this offseason to be a retooling one for Toronto.

Outer Sparta wrote:What about Biyombo as well? And how will Golden State ever recover? That game was a kick to the shin for the whole Warriors team, management, and fans, and won't recover.

Biyombo's not the big question right now, nor even close to that. Only the lack of dominant centres in this league rn is making the question little bit bigger.

With Golden State, I'll ask you this question : Did Chicago Bulls recover from getting eliminated twice by Pistons earlier in MJ23's career?

Yes, but at least they didn't choke. Only time will tell if Golden State will win next year. Of course they'll rest players and take less risks, but only if they win next year, I:ll forgive em for this choke.
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Outer Sparta wrote:
The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:This is a key part. OKC is in a very good position to contend. They have a very good team, solid coach and obviously 2 of the league's top stars and a pretty good balance. Durant ain't going anywhere.

There is still a good chance DeRozan stays in Toronto, tbh. That'll lead to them letting go of Biyombo and a couple of others, but right now signing Demar may be the biggest priority there for Raptors the last while or so. If not, expect this offseason to be a retooling one for Toronto.


Biyombo's not the big question right now, nor even close to that. Only the lack of dominant centres in this league rn is making the question little bit bigger.

With Golden State, I'll ask you this question : Did Chicago Bulls recover from getting eliminated twice by Pistons earlier in MJ23's career?

Yes, but at least they didn't choke. Only time will tell if Golden State will win next year. Of course they'll rest players and take less risks, but only if they win next year, I:ll forgive em for this choke.


You really need to take this as a note of chain of events thanks to one fuckup done by NBA Head Office.

Lemme ask you one question : Are you also going to say that OKC choked because of Draymond Green not getting suspended?
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The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Yes, but at least they didn't choke. Only time will tell if Golden State will win next year. Of course they'll rest players and take less risks, but only if they win next year, I:ll forgive em for this choke.


You really need to take this as a note of chain of events thanks to one fuckup done by NBA Head Office.

Lemme ask you one question : Are you also going to say that OKC choked because of Draymond Green not getting suspended?

So you believe the NBA was rigged in the finals?
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Postby Ganos Lao » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:27 am

As of this post, the city of Cleveland holds a parade to celebrate the ending of the Cleveland Curse. Lebron and his teammates bask in the love and adoration of the Cavs faithful.

And he won't be going anywhere either.

Lebron James announced he will be staying in Cleveland for the forseeable future.

This NY Times article says the city of Buffalo has now replaced Cleveland as the most cursed sports city.
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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:01 pm

Derrick Rose Got Traded. WTF?


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The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:
You really need to take this as a note of chain of events thanks to one fuckup done by NBA Head Office.

Lemme ask you one question : Are you also going to say that OKC choked because of Draymond Green not getting suspended?

So you believe the NBA was rigged in the finals?

Not just the finals, but it's pretty obvious that NBA used non-suspension of Green in WCF and then suspension of the same person in NBA Finals to prolong series. Let's look at it this way- Both OKC and GSW were leading 3-1 before the respective decision made by NBA.
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:03 pm

The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:Derrick Rose Got Traded. WTF?


Outer Sparta wrote:So you believe the NBA was rigged in the finals?

Not just the finals, but it's pretty obvious that NBA used non-suspension of Green in WCF and then suspension of the same person in NBA Finals to prolong series. Let's look at it this way- Both OKC and GSW were leading 3-1 before the respective decision made by NBA.

D Rose is kinda a burden on the Bulls tbh. Big contract, too many injuries. I think Chicago comes off better. Still, we all thought Butler would be the one to be moved
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The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:Derrick Rose Got Traded. WTF?


Well, after all, Jerry Reinsdorf once said he would trade all Bulls championship rings for one White Sox ring.



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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:15 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:Derrick Rose Got Traded. WTF?


Well, after all, Jerry Reinsdorf once said he would trade all Bulls championship rings for one White Sox ring.

That says it all :P

RIP Chicago Bulls man. RIP.
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