2017 NBA Finals: Dubs Get Revenge!

by **Holy Marsh** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:33 am

Why would anyone have believed Lebron was going to retire?XD The article came from The Onion.

by **Val Halla** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:20 am

So, with the season over, seems like a good time to discuss the draft and free agency. The most interesting things coming up to me is Dragan Bender in the draft, as well as the free agency of Demar DeRozan and Joakim Noah. Bender is absolutely the biggest question mark in the draft. With European players, you either seem to get a Dirk or a Darko. He's currently projected to go 7th, but that's largely due to roles, and people can easily choose who they see as the best player available. DeRozan isn't the biggest name in free agency, but KD is likely to stay in OKC. DeRozan, will probably leave Toronto. Rumours have him going to the Lakers which would be a good fit, but I see LA struggling even more next year due to the lack of Kobe guiding them.

by **Impaled Nazarene** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:16 am

Welp, time to kill myself. Enjoy the apocalypse!

by **Val Halla** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:22 am

I'm sure we'll have plenty of people claiming LeBron is the greatest because of this. I still won't put him above Kareem, MJ, Wilt, Hakeem, Magic, or Russell. I'm not even sure he's better than Bird.

by **Outer Sparta** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:24 am

Val Halla wrote:I'm sure we'll have plenty of people claiming LeBron is the greatest because of this. I still won't put him above Kareem, MJ, Wilt, Hakeem, Magic, or Russell. I'm not even sure he's better than Bird.

He's not even better than Michael Jordan.

by **Outer Sparta** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:26 am

Ganos Lao wrote:Cleveland's getting rowdy:

Layton Powell @laytonpow12
The police scanner feed in Cleveland is hilarious. The cops are screaming at each other and someone has stolen a fire truck.

Well, of course, since this is their moment in half a century.

by **Val Halla** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:29 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I'm sure we'll have plenty of people claiming LeBron is the greatest because of this. I still won't put him above Kareem, MJ, Wilt, Hakeem, Magic, or Russell. I'm not even sure he's better than Bird.

He's not even better than Michael Jordan.

Nobody is. Micheal Jordan isn't just the best basketball player ever, he's one of the best athletes ever.

by **The Royal Kingdom of Quebec** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:59 am

Val Halla wrote:I'm sure we'll have plenty of people claiming LeBron is the greatest because of this. I still won't put him above Kareem, MJ, Wilt, Hakeem, Magic, or Russell. I'm not even sure he's better than Bird.

*coughs Shaq*

Outer Sparta wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I'm sure we'll have plenty of people claiming LeBron is the greatest because of this. I still won't put him above Kareem, MJ, Wilt, Hakeem, Magic, or Russell. I'm not even sure he's better than Bird.

He's not even better than Michael Jordan.

Has any other player in the league won 6 Finals MVPs? Clearly not. Lol

by **Val Halla** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:02 am

The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I'm sure we'll have plenty of people claiming LeBron is the greatest because of this. I still won't put him above Kareem, MJ, Wilt, Hakeem, Magic, or Russell. I'm not even sure he's better than Bird.

*coughs Shaq*

Outer Sparta wrote:He's not even better than Michael Jordan.

Has any other player in the league won 6 Finals MVPs? Clearly not. Lol

Nah, I don't think Shaq was better. His game had too many flaws

by **Ganos Lao** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:16 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Ganos Lao wrote:
The Broncos then responded.

That's my team right there with that sick burn.

If only the Seahawks then responded to the Broncos. And then the Pats to the Seahawks.....

by **Ganos Lao** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:21 am

Holy Marsh wrote:Why would anyone have believed Lebron was going to retire?XD The article came from The Onion.

The Onion put out this gem of an article recently.

Also, we know that Richard Jefferson (aka San Antonio's Justin Schultz) is for sure retiring. He announced it right after the Cavs won.

Speaking of San Antonio, Draymond Green's mother set her sights on Tim Duncan via Twitter.

Val Halla wrote:
The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:*coughs Shaq*

Has any other player in the league won 6 Finals MVPs? Clearly not. Lol

Nah, I don't think Shaq was better. His game had too many flaws

This was the biggest flaw in his game.

by **The Royal Kingdom of Quebec** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:05 am

Val Halla wrote:
The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:*coughs Shaq*

Has any other player in the league won 6 Finals MVPs? Clearly not. Lol

Nah, I don't think Shaq was better. His game had too many flaws

His most dominant years, imo, were probably the most dominant any centre could've had since Wilt and KAJ. I obviously compared Shaq with LeBron though. Comparing him to MJ23 is a suicide, lol.

by **Val Halla** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:39 am

Apparently we're getting a third Plumlee brother. Christ.

by **Ganos Lao** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:41 am

A rather old article, but it is one with an interesting viewpoint: the city of Dallas "blew it" by letting the Dallas Chaparrals move from Dallas to San Antonio.

I don't think the argument works, though. Who's to say things would've happened as they have had they stayed in Dallas?

by **Traxa** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:57 am

GS was overhyped all year, and this choke was worse than when the Yankees let Boston into a WS a few years back.

by **Outer Sparta** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:52 pm

Val Halla wrote:
The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:*coughs Shaq*

Has any other player in the league won 6 Finals MVPs? Clearly not. Lol

Nah, I don't think Shaq was better. His game had too many flaws

*cough cough* Hack-a-Shaq free throws!

by **Holy Marsh** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:12 pm

Traxa wrote:GS was overhyped all year, and this choke was worse than when the Yankees let Boston into a WS a few years back.

Winning the most games ever wasn't hype, it was fact.

I don't understand this sport mentality. Instead of talking about the monumental job Lebron did and the Cavs in coming back against the winningest team in NBA history, people seemingly want to downgrade the true unbelievable outrageousness of the feat by shitting on who they beat. "It isn't enough to win, I gotta make sure the team that lost feels *extra* diminished!" I see it too often and it is my biggest pet peeve regarding fandom.

by **The Uthani Imperium** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:31 pm

Most of us in/from Cleveland don't even care if Lebron is in the argument for greatest player at this point...

We're just happy it's not gonna be 53 years...

by **Outer Sparta** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:31 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
Traxa wrote:GS was overhyped all year, and this choke was worse than when the Yankees let Boston into a WS a few years back.

Winning the most games ever wasn't hype, it was fact.

I don't understand this sport mentality. Instead of talking about the monumental job Lebron did and the Cavs in coming back against the winningest team in NBA history, people seemingly want to downgrade the true unbelievable outrageousness of the feat by shitting on who they beat. "It isn't enough to win, I gotta make sure the team that lost feels *extra* diminished!" I see it too often and it is my biggest pet peeve regarding fandom.

Yeah, but the Warriors, who had flashy offensive skills, played two games in Oracle, with a death lineup, lost to the Cavs. They couldn't score for four minutes of game 7, the last four minutes!!! :evil:

by **Val Halla** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:53 pm

I feel like sometimes this thread is like ESPN. Christ.

by **Pope Joan** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:08 pm

Traxa wrote:GS was overhyped all year, and this choke was worse than when the Yankees let Boston into a WS a few years back.

No more "greatest team ever", that remains the Bulls (what a relief!)

But I do not want to say "choke", although Klay did (a slap at Curry?). Saying that the loser choked takes deserved credit away from the winners.

All credit should go to Cleveland.

by **Pope Joan** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:12 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
Traxa wrote:GS was overhyped all year, and this choke was worse than when the Yankees let Boston into a WS a few years back.

Winning the most games ever wasn't hype, it was fact.

I don't understand this sport mentality. Instead of talking about the monumental job Lebron did and the Cavs in coming back against the winningest team in NBA history, people seemingly want to downgrade the true unbelievable outrageousness of the feat by shitting on who they beat. "It isn't enough to win, I gotta make sure the team that lost feels *extra* diminished!" I see it too often and it is my biggest pet peeve regarding fandom.

I share your peeve. We see it in all sports these days, unless it is an absolute blowout or runaway victory. Tennis. Golf. The winner never seems to get recognition for the accomplishment, all we here about is how the game was lost, not won.

My theory is that this coverage is aimed at guys who want to argue in bars. That seems to be the flavor it takes on.

by **Outer Sparta** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:04 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
Traxa wrote:GS was overhyped all year, and this choke was worse than when the Yankees let Boston into a WS a few years back.

No more "greatest team ever", that remains the Bulls (what a relief!)

But I do not want to say "choke", although Klay did (a slap at Curry?). Saying that the loser choked takes deserved credit away from the winners.

All credit should go to Cleveland.

What about the Warriors that couldn't score in the final 4:39 of Game 7? At least a couple of baskets should fall in. The Warriors are literally punching walls and let a moment slip away, especially at the final minutes. Literally, a college team could score more or even a highly incompetent team like the 76ers can score in the final 4:39. Biggest choke in the history of chokes.

by **Ganos Lao** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:27 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
Traxa wrote:GS was overhyped all year, and this choke was worse than when the Yankees let Boston into a WS a few years back.

Winning the most games ever wasn't hype, it was fact.

I don't understand this sport mentality. Instead of talking about the monumental job Lebron did and the Cavs in coming back against the winningest team in NBA history, people seemingly want to downgrade the true unbelievable outrageousness of the feat by shitting on who they beat. "It isn't enough to win, I gotta make sure the team that lost feels *extra* diminished!" I see it too often and it is my biggest pet peeve regarding fandom.

I share this very peeve. I see it all too often attached to "Golden State's fanbase is all bandwagoners!" and other such crap. Nevermind that a lot of people applauding the Cavs are the exact same who shat all over 'em, and especially Lebron, when the Warriors won last year....

Pope Joan wrote:My theory is that this coverage is aimed at guys who want to argue in bars. That seems to be the flavor it takes on.

Youtube's full of this sort of thing. Go to any highlights video of any sport and you'll see it all and then some. It's pretty lame, honestly.

by **Renewed Imperial Germany** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:32 pm

Wait a team from Cleveland won something? :blink:

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