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Kar-Esseria
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:11 pm

Honestly, their whole government has gone insane. They're so afraid of offending people they've outlawed just about everything that makes people different.

Hard to believe they were raping their way across Europe 1200 years ago.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:15 pm

Kar-Esseria wrote:Honestly, their whole government has gone insane. They're so afraid of offending people they've outlawed just about everything that makes people different.

Hard to believe they were raping their way across Europe 1200 years ago.

They haven't "outlawed everything that makes people different". You make Sweden sound like Saudi Arabia.
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Postby Popkenland » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:14 pm

Sweden shows that accepting masses of unskilled and ideologically opposed migrants and refugees can destroy a nation in less than a decade.
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:20 pm

Social Injustice wrote:Asking all NS'rs of any stripe; what do you think of when you hear of modern Sweden; and how do you respond to the statement that it is the new rape capitol of Europe (with Germany as a close second)?


Modern nations have forgotten that unrestricted immigration, made up of people who don't share your cultural values and who do not assimilate, is a bad idea. Clearly the examples of Rome and the Native Americans were just not enough. Sweden has been kind of enough to volunteer its country to provide an example we can witness on TV from the comfort of our own homes. Not one we are forced to read about in a stuffy history book. Thanks Sweden!
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:21 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
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I though socialism was when the companies workers controlled the means of production, but in any event, last I saw Ericsson was still listed on NASDAQ


Workers owning the means of production is just stock options for employees.
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Postby The Emerald World » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:05 pm

The only things that I know that Sweden is famous for are IKEA, socialism, gummy fish, and meatballs.
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Postby Test America » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:07 pm

Kar-Esseria wrote:Honestly, their whole government has gone insane. They're so afraid of offending people they've outlawed just about everything that makes people different.

Hard to believe they were raping their way across Europe 1200 years ago.


I think you may want to fix your title and flesh out the op. It's a bit lacking.

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Harime Nui
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Postby Harime Nui » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:09 pm

"Not a fan."

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:11 pm

...it's a nice country?

Alright, I guess, I dunno.

There's the news article suggesting that it's how "rape" is being counted, really, and you'd probably have to ask someone who's both a Swede and a woman to more properly give an image of the nation because I'm neither.
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Postby Jochistan » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:12 pm

Frustrating.

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Postby The Kievan People » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:16 pm

Social Injustice wrote:Asking all NS'rs of any stripe; what do you think of when you hear of modern Sweden; and how do you respond to the statement that it is the new rape capitol of Europe (with Germany as a close second)?


1. lol
2. LOL

They suffer for their own stupidity. And it is sweet.
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Postby Dahon » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:29 am

It has higher living standards than most of my country, yes?
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Postby Aethrys » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:43 am

Their odd views on physical space requirements. They're like the opposite extreme of the japanese. I just kind of stare when people post pictures on imgur of swedes at bus stops, 5 people waiting for the same bus and the fifth is almost at the end of the block! Can any swedes around here explain how you guys handle things like lines at restaurants and movie theaters and so on? Genuinely curious.
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Postby Ragnarheim » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:46 am

FUCKING SOFT.
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Postby Viking Confederacy » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:48 am

Ethel mermania wrote:Reindeer is delicious, you can keep the lute Fisk


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Postby Nochov » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:51 am

What do you think of modern Sweden?
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:51 am

Social Injustice wrote:Asking all NS'rs of any stripe; what do you think of when you hear of modern Sweden; and how do you respond to the statement that it is the new rape capitol of Europe (with Germany as a close second)?


Generally when I read people saying on NSG "X fact" I always think, could you please show some evidence to support your claims.

Then I start to think how your OP could be expanded upon more.
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Postby Lautrec- » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:53 am

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Postby Gravlen » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:17 am

Social Injustice wrote:Asking all NS'rs of any stripe; what do you think of when you hear of modern Sweden;

IKEA, Eurovision Song Contest, The bridge, bacon, equality, better posters than the OP, and faux poutrage about puported liberal policies which may or may not have any roots in reality...

Social Injustice wrote:and how do you respond to the statement that it is the new rape capitol of Europe (with Germany as a close second)?

I'd respond with: Please stop spreading misinformation by regurgitating purposefully inflammatory statements made by ignorant people with no regard for the actual facts.

If you're going to compare the rates of sexual assault in Sweden with the situation in other countries, remember to account for
- The differences in law
- The differences in reporting rate (keeping in mind that crime victimization surveys in Sweden are not showing an increase in crime over time)
- The differences in method of counting and registering crimes
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:20 am

The Kievan People wrote:
Social Injustice wrote:Asking all NS'rs of any stripe; what do you think of when you hear of modern Sweden; and how do you respond to the statement that it is the new rape capitol of Europe (with Germany as a close second)?


1. lol
2. LOL

They suffer for their own stupidity. And it is sweet.

Yeah... suffering... that's the word... :meh:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:40 am

Gravlen wrote:
Social Injustice wrote:Asking all NS'rs of any stripe; what do you think of when you hear of modern Sweden;

IKEA, Eurovision Song Contest, The bridge, bacon, equality, better posters than the OP, and faux poutrage about puported liberal policies which may or may not have any roots in reality...

Social Injustice wrote:and how do you respond to the statement that it is the new rape capitol of Europe (with Germany as a close second)?

I'd respond with: Please stop spreading misinformation by regurgitating purposefully inflammatory statements made by ignorant people with no regard for the actual facts.

If you're going to compare the rates of sexual assault in Sweden with the situation in other countries, remember to account for
- The differences in law
- The differences in reporting rate (keeping in mind that crime victimization surveys in Sweden are not showing an increase in crime over time)
- The differences in method of counting and registering crimes



Fine, how do you defend.....lute Fisk?
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Postby Greater Hunnia » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:49 am

Social Injustice wrote:Asking all NS'rs of any stripe; what do you think of when you hear of modern Sweden; and how do you respond to the statement that it is the new rape capitol of Europe (with Germany as a close second)?


One word: FUBAR.
This nation DOES use NS statistics, but the interpretation for some of them might be a bit skewed.

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Postby Gravlen » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:50 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Gravlen wrote:IKEA, Eurovision Song Contest, The bridge, bacon, equality, better posters than the OP, and faux poutrage about puported liberal policies which may or may not have any roots in reality...


I'd respond with: Please stop spreading misinformation by regurgitating purposefully inflammatory statements made by ignorant people with no regard for the actual facts.

If you're going to compare the rates of sexual assault in Sweden with the situation in other countries, remember to account for
- The differences in law
- The differences in reporting rate (keeping in mind that crime victimization surveys in Sweden are not showing an increase in crime over time)
- The differences in method of counting and registering crimes



Fine, how do you defend.....lute Fisk?

It's a traditional weapon of mass destruction from the late middle ages, and you shouldn't just discard old traditions (or old WsMD)
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:53 am

Gravlen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:

Fine, how do you defend.....lute Fisk?

It's a traditional weapon of mass destruction from the late middle ages, and you shouldn't just discard old traditions (or old WsMD)


Fair point, carry on then.
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Postby Mugrul » Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:26 am

I think it's a nice place.

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