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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:54 am

Valaran wrote:
Mertokuria wrote:Even if they would refuse the pope could easily dismiss them from the post and replace them with bishops from elsewehere, or just excommunicate them from the Church.


Yeah, but why would he? The pope, I'm lead to believe, likes peace, and doesn't like petty squabbling of nations to affect the church.

traditional hatred England has for the Church


This isn't the 1600s mate.


In fact Francis has publicly distanced the Church from this matter, IIRC.
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Postby Imperial isa » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:56 am

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Mertokuria wrote:Even if they would refuse the pope could easily dismiss them from the post and replace them with bishops from elsewehere, or just excommunicate them from the Church. The Catholic Church has more motives to provocate the Anglo-Saxon Protestant considering the traditional hatred England has for the Church, and how the UK occupied Argentine territory.

Boy you are really fucking reaching for this arnt you.

Goes to show they never get the fuck over it.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:57 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Boy you are really fucking reaching for this arnt you.

The Church should invite IRA members to celebrate as well.
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That is without a doubt the stupidest thing ive read this month bar the thomas the tank engine "controversy" from the other day. Well done.
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Postby Valaran » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:59 am

Mertokuria wrote:Anyyyway let us look an actuall footage from 34 years ago. From Argentine TV.Let us enjoy.



tbh

I preferthis bit of Argentine television.
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No one got the joke...God damn it...
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:00 am

Mertokuria wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Boy you are really fucking reaching for this arnt you.

The Church should invite IRA members to celebrate as well.

So basically you don't want anything meaningful to happen, you just want to annoy the British government and achieve nothing by it.
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Postby Republic of Bebbanburg » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:01 am

Most Argentinians like to argue that it was theirs before the Brits, but then the Spanish claimed them first so why not give them to spain?

Also - 1994: Argentina enshrines its claim to the Falkland Islands in its constitution.

bit late lads . . .

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:01 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:No one got the joke...God damn it...
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I got it.

Eddy izzard right?
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Postby Valaran » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:01 am

Mertokuria wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Yeah, but why would he? The pope, I'm lead to believe, likes peace, and doesn't like petty squabbling of nations to affect the church.


This isn't the 1600s mate.

Yes, the pope loves peace. And having a peacefull mass for died Argentine soldiers is peacefull and not a declaration of war.

Still, this hatred is deeply codified into English mentality.


Oh he could do that if he wants. But that's not the same thing as excommunication (which is what you suggested), is it?

Wow. Somehow, having spent enough time around english, I've never once heard any expression of this mentality.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:01 am

Mertokuria wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Yeah, but why would he? The pope, I'm lead to believe, likes peace, and doesn't like petty squabbling of nations to affect the church.


This isn't the 1600s mate.

Yes, the pope loves peace. And having a peacefull mass for died Argentine soldiers is peacefull and not a declaration of war.

Still, this hatred is deeply codified into English mentality.

Well, none of us suggested it would be a declaration of war, because obviously it isn't. We're not as hair-trigger as North Korea.

How you propose doing it is a meaningless escalation of tensions. If you truly cared, you would call for - and I'm sure at official remembrances this is probably the case - both sides to be commemorated without preference.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:02 am

Mertokuria wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So basically you don't want anything meaningful to happen, you just want to annoy the British government and achieve nothing by it.

Not only the British government but also the ordinary people. They will get trolled and it would be an achievement.

You need a hobby.

Or several.
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Postby Valaran » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:02 am

Mertokuria wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So basically you don't want anything meaningful to happen, you just want to annoy the British government and achieve nothing by it.

Not only the British government but also the ordinary people. They will get trolled and it would be an achievement.


Nothing says 'peaceful reconciliation' and 'moving on' like trolling.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:02 am

Mertokuria wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So basically you don't want anything meaningful to happen, you just want to annoy the British government and achieve nothing by it.

Not only the British government but also the ordinary people. They will get trolled and it would be an achievement.

It has to achieve something to be called an achievement.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:02 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:No one got the joke...God damn it...
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I got it.

Eddy izzard right?

Finally!
Someone got the reference!
I feel happy now!
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:04 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Mertokuria wrote:Not only the British government but also the ordinary people. They will get trolled and it would be an achievement.

It has to achieve something to be called an achievement.

That is true.
It seems this guy doesn't get it though.
Shame, right shame.
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Postby Valaran » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:05 am

Mertokuria wrote:
Valaran wrote:

tbh

I preferthis bit of Argentine television.

If the Argentine TV shows this to the kids than it is great. It teachs the kids national history and love for country.

The Brits are said they cannot air patriotic Cartoons to their children since it would be political inocorrect. And some may be offended.
The Argies on other hand celebrate their history.


Its literally the most hilariously bad propaganda I've ever seen.

We don't need to mutilate history to our children.
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Postby Herargon » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:06 am

Mertokuria wrote:
Valaran wrote:

'liberation' =/= 'defence', as I'm sure you're aware. Different type of operation.

Also, does that mean we can literally just say they're ours in the UK constitution, and that would make it right?

1. UK has no written constitution
2. Even according to the UK it is not part of the country but only an oversea territory. On other hand Argentine consideres it a part of the mainland.


A claim does not always mean you rule it.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:06 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Mertokuria wrote:Even if they would refuse the pope could easily dismiss them from the post and replace them with bishops from elsewehere, or just excommunicate them from the Church. The Catholic Church has more motives to provocate the Anglo-Saxon Protestant considering the traditional hatred England has for the Church, and how the UK occupied Argentine territory.

Boy you are really fucking reaching for this arnt you.

I don't know if it's 'reaching', Seems more like flailing to me. Trying to hit on every possible point of conflict. I mean, which is more like Mertokuria's approach? Someone dangling from a tree branch, stretching for an apple? Or someone in a field of sunflowers, trying to knock the head off every single one?

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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:06 am

Mertokuria wrote:
Valaran wrote:

tbh

I preferthis bit of Argentine television.

If the Argentine TV shows this to the kids than it is great. It teachs the kids national history and love for country.

The Brits are said they cannot air patriotic cartoons to their children since it would be political incorrect, and some may be offended.
The Argies on other hand celebrate their history.

That is incorrect.
We do celebrate our history with gusto, at least, some of us.
By your comments, I can safely say you're not British. You also do not speak for the whole of us.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:07 am

Valaran wrote:We don't need to mutilate history to our children.


Heaven forbid the kids start thinking for themselves.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:08 am

Valaran wrote:
Mertokuria wrote:If the Argentine TV shows this to the kids than it is great. It teachs the kids national history and love for country.

The Brits are said they cannot air patriotic Cartoons to their children since it would be political inocorrect. And some may be offended.
The Argies on other hand celebrate their history.


Its literally the most hilariously bad propaganda I've ever seen.

We don't need to mutilate history to our children.

You say that, the Tories seem anxious to try.
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Postby Herargon » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:09 am

Vassenor wrote:
Valaran wrote:We don't need to mutilate history to our children.


Heaven forbid the kids start thinking for themselves.


Plus, children at a young age cannot criticise very well yet. That makes them good for brainwashing. I cannot support such brainwashing, from whichever side it may be.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:11 am

Herargon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Heaven forbid the kids start thinking for themselves.


Plus, children at a young age cannot criticise very well yet. That makes them good for brainwashing. I cannot support such brainwashing, from whichever side it may be.

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Postby Valaran » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:11 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:You say that, the Tories seem anxious to try.


Eh, we don't teach history well enough to deliberately distort it.
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Postby Republic of Bebbanburg » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:14 am

Herargon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Heaven forbid the kids start thinking for themselves.


Plus, children at a young age cannot criticise very well yet. That makes them good for brainwashing. I cannot support such brainwashing, from whichever side it may be.




As a historian is SO SO true!

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