Islamic State Crisis Megathread (ISIS/ISIL/IS) II

[Seraven]

Havent followed the war in months. How are things going? If anyone doesnt mind doing a quick update.

We are bombing the shit out of them, Kurds make some small advances and gains, Crazy Abe loses that Jihadi John Asshole due to unmanned drone.

Turkey is being a dick and not doing jack shit apart from the shooting down of a Russian Attack jet that may have breached its airspace.

Turkey's either wanting to start WW3, or wanting to start a war with Russia.

It means nothing's going to be better between the two. Not in the present and not in the past as well.

[Ganos Lao]

Turkey is being a dick and not doing jack shit apart from the shooting down of a Russian Attack jet that may have breached its airspace.

And reportedly blowing up Kurds, buying oil from ISIS, supporting the Saudis in funding Islamist rebels in Syria, contributing to my overall point that people deliberately fuck up the Middle East and then wonder why Achmed's shooting up a theatre....

[Ganos Lao]

Regime-changing all state sponsors of terrorism at least offers the prospect of a final victory and a resolution of the situation to a sustainable peace.

You should go read all my posts about the Islamic State crisis and see why your plan is not only doomed to fail, but would unleash even more chaos.

You'd be doing the Saudis, etc a favor, essentially.

[Gauthier]

Regime-changing all state sponsors of terrorism at least offers the prospect of a final victory and a resolution of the situation to a sustainable peace.

You should go read all my posts about the Islamic State crisis and see why your plan is not only doomed to fail, but would unleash even more chaos.

You'd be doing the Saudis, etc a favor, essentially.

Given the cheerleading for one of the Bush Administration architects, that's probably part of the plan.

[Ganos Lao]

You should go read all my posts about the Islamic State crisis and see why your plan is not only doomed to fail, but would unleash even more chaos.

You'd be doing the Saudis, etc a favor, essentially.

Given the cheerleading for one of the Bush Administration architects, that's probably part of the plan.

As flawed as it is, he's probably put more effort into making it than any of the actual world leaders into their own, and that's the saddest thing about it.

[Ugatoo]

I'm not really to up on my politics but what's wrong with an Islamic State? Israel is a Jewish state and many Americans would have you believe that the US is a Christian state.

[Gauthier]

I'm not really to up on my politics but what's wrong with an Islamic State? Israel is a Jewish state and many Americans would have you believe that the US is a Christian state.

And North Korea is a Democratic People's Republic.

[Ganos Lao]

I'm not really to up on my politics but what's wrong with an Islamic State? Israel is a Jewish state and many Americans would have you believe that the US is a Christian state.

This must be some sort of joke post.

[Kraylandia]

I'm not really to up on my politics but what's wrong with an Islamic State? Israel is a Jewish state and many Americans would have you believe that the US is a Christian state.

It's pretty damn obvious that you're kidding, but I'll give you a response anyway. It's a batshit insane Jihadist group that declared themselves a Caliphate in Syria and Iraq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_S ... the_Levant

[Wdkckms]

NEWS from the Front: ISIS fighter cried as he was captured by the Kurds.

[Kraylandia]

NEWS from the Front: ISIS fighter cried as he was captured by the Kurds.

ISIS has been known to force people to join their organisation though. So we don't really know if he is definitely indoctrinated or not.

[Pulau Singapura]

I'm not really to up on my politics but what's wrong with an Islamic State? Israel is a Jewish state and many Americans would have you believe that the US is a Christian state.

This must be some sort of joke post.

Be careful. He might be some radicalised guy.

[Kraylandia]

This must be some sort of joke post.

Be careful. He might be some radicalised guy.

How...how...did you jump to that conclusion?

[Pulau Singapura]

Be careful. He might be some radicalised guy.

How...how...did you jump to that conclusion?

Some sort of insinct....the way he wrote it

[Kraylandia]

How...how...did you jump to that conclusion?

Some sort of insinct....the way he wrote it

I don't see anything radical about it. For example, he could be an ill-informed individual with no knowledge of ISIS or their aims, and only see the word "Islamic" in their name. Think about it before running to moderation and wasting their time.

[Pulau Singapura]

Some sort of insinct....the way he wrote it

I don't see anything radical about it. For example, he could be an ill-informed individual with no knowledge of ISIS or their aims, and only see the word "Islamic" in their name. Think about it before running to moderation and wasting their time.

How...can someone who obviously has Internet access not know about the world's biggest issue right now?
Eh, or it could just be me thinking too much about other's words?

[Kraylandia]

I don't see anything radical about it. For example, he could be an ill-informed individual with no knowledge of ISIS or their aims, and only see the word "Islamic" in their name. Think about it before running to moderation and wasting their time.

How...can someone who obviously has Internet access not know about the world's biggest issue right now?
Eh, or it could just be me thinking too much about other's words?

Because not everyone keeps up to date with the news. Some of my friends who spend the majority of their free time on the Internet only know the name of ISIS and fuck all else about them. It's possible, and yes it's just you thinking too much.

[Pulau Singapura]

How...can someone who obviously has Internet access not know about the world's biggest issue right now?
Eh, or it could just be me thinking too much about other's words?

Because not everyone keeps up to date with the news. Some of my friends who spend the majority of their free time on the Internet only know the name of ISIS and fuck all else about them. It's possible, and yes it's just you thinking too much.

But surely those friends know that the "Islamic State" is a bad thing?
And yeah, thanks for that 2nd opinion. Occurs a lot in school, meaningless statements turn into week-long arguements

[Kraylandia]

But surely those friends know that the "Islamic State" is a bad thing?
And yeah, thanks for that 2nd opinion. Occurs a lot in school, meaningless statements turn into week-long arguements

I would hope so but I haven't really bothered to ask them.

[Valaran]

How...can someone who obviously has Internet access not know about the world's biggest issue right now?

Not a big issue for everyone though. South America, for instance, have practically no connection to this. Nor does most of East Asia, or swathes of Africa, etc.

[Pulau Singapura]

But surely those friends know that the "Islamic State" is a bad thing?
And yeah, thanks for that 2nd opinion. Occurs a lot in school, meaningless statements turn into week-long arguements

I would hope so but I haven't really bothered to ask them.

Well, yeah, haha :3

Also, I remember another reason for the raised suspicions: the way he worded his question
But part of me thinks that he really had no idea that "Islamic State" isn't a general term anymore

[Kraylandia]

How...can someone who obviously has Internet access not know about the world's biggest issue right now?

Not a big issue for everyone though. South America, for instance, have practically no connection to this. Nor does most of East Asia, or swathes of Africa, etc.

And of course this as well, you see Pulau, it's entirely possible.

[Supreme Allied Commander]

Regime-changing all state sponsors of terrorism at least offers the prospect of a final victory and a resolution of the situation to a sustainable peace.

You should go read all my posts about the Islamic State crisis and see why your plan is not only doomed to fail, but would unleash even more chaos.

Sorry but I don't have time to read all your nearly 10,000 posts. Either you debate point to point or lose the argument by default.

What aspect of my plan would fail? You reckon the US and allies would fail to seize oil tankers or satellites? That we would fail to end "business as usual" for the Saudis?

You'd be doing the Saudis, etc a favor, essentially.

So taking the Saudis source of tax revenue and TV propaganda is "doing them a favour"? Ridiculous. The Saudis would be regime-changed and we'd be doing the Arab street a favour by ridding them of their royalist oppressors.

[Gauthier]

You'd be doing the Saudis, etc a favor, essentially.

So taking the Saudis source of tax revenue and TV propaganda is "doing them a favour"? Ridiculous. The Saudis would be regime-changed and we'd be doing the Arab street a favour by ridding them of their royalist oppressors.

Regime Changing Saudi Arabia. Did you confuse a game of Risk for real life? Assuming you're not a performance artiste doing this for lulz, the very idea of invading or instigating a coup in a hardcore Wahhabist den especially where Mecca happens to be is nothing short of a "Come at me Bro" to the entire Muslim world.

[The Huskar Social Union]

You are not a fucking battle commander.

That's right. Out of character, in the real world, I am a Condista, not a "commander".

So my real-world battle-plan is authored "Supreme Allied Condista" as is my username in other political forums.

Only here in Nation States is my in-character username "Supreme Allied Commander".

Also "regime change them all" yeah because that will totally not devolve into a situation thirty times worse than it currently is, Get real.

The reality is we are not winning the war on terror with the current half-baked, inconsistent approach and so the terrorism will continue indefinitely.

Regime-changing all state sponsors of terrorism at least offers the prospect of a final victory and a resolution of the situation to a sustainable peace.

Do you have any idea how demented that idea is?

"Hey this war and all this shit that is happening escalated by a ridiculous amount because we in the past invaded and fucked up a lot of places is not going well.

So lets fucking invade the rest of the fucking region and spend years destroying our standing, morale and economy by sending forces to all of those countries to topple their governments and get bogged down in drawn out wars and lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers, civilians and others in the process! Yay for absolute fucking stupidity!"

Fucking honestly, this is some of the most daft and far gone from reality bullshit ive read in a good while.