Islamic State Crisis Megathread (ISIS/ISIL/IS) II

[Daburuetchi]

You certainly don't see many Latin Americans or SE Asians blowing themselves up in Western capitals to avenge the "colonial past" or something.

Probably because the US ain't sending them jihadist text books like they did with Afghanistan https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... y-the-u-s/

[Tafhan]

What the fuck no they aren't. BY saying that you alienate Muslims across the globe.

ISIS =/= All muslims across the globe. ISIS is far more faithful than the average believer.

>Putting a measure of value on faith

[Rejeistan]

ISIS =/= All muslims across the globe. ISIS is far more faithful than the average believer.

>Putting a measure of value on faith

Hm? What do you mean?

[Baltenstein]

You certainly don't see many Latin Americans or SE Asians blowing themselves up in Western capitals to avenge the "colonial past" or something.

Probably because the US ain't sending them jihadist text books like they did with Afghanistan https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... y-the-u-s/

Maybe because such insane bullshit wouldn't find any followers in your average Latin American or SE Asian community/society?

[Geilinor]

You certainly don't see many Latin Americans or SE Asians blowing themselves up in Western capitals to avenge the "colonial past" or something.

Many Southeast Asians in Malaysia and Indonesia are Muslim.

[Olerand]

You certainly don't see many Latin Americans or SE Asians blowing themselves up in Western capitals to avenge the "colonial past" or something.

Probably because the US ain't sending them jihadist text books like they did with Afghanistan https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... y-the-u-s/

America providing the books does not equal America inventing the ideology. The ideology is 100% Islamic and even pre-dates America; America, and Reagan particularly, were simply short-sighted enough (as they always are) to support it against the Soviets.

[Daburuetchi]

Probably because the US ain't sending them jihadist text books like they did with Afghanistan https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... y-the-u-s/

Maybe because such insane bullshit wouldn't find any followers in your average Latin American or SE Asian community/society?

Hmmm I think you're forgetting about the insane right wing paramilitary groups that committed terrorism regularly in the past.

[Olerand]

You certainly don't see many Latin Americans or SE Asians blowing themselves up in Western capitals to avenge the "colonial past" or something.

Many Southeast Asians in Malaysia and Indonesia are Muslim.

They sure are.

http://www.dw.com/en/after-tsunami-recovery-sharia-law-now-defines-aceh-province/a-18153006
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-32089787

[Tafhan]

>Putting a measure of value on faith

Hm? What do you mean?

Since faith means different things to different people, saying one group is more faithful than another because they take more of scripture literally is ludicrous.

[Baltenstein]

Many Southeast Asians in Malaysia and Indonesia are Muslim.

They sure are.

http://www.dw.com/en/after-tsunami-recovery-sharia-law-now-defines-aceh-province/a-18153006
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-32089787

Tsunamis: Western imperialism at its finest.

[Rejeistan]

Hm? What do you mean?

Since faith means different things to different people, saying one group is more faithful than another because they take more of scripture literally is ludicrous.

They take more of their scriptures more literally than others do. Since faith has such an ambiguous definition, I'll leave it at that, happy now?

[Seangoli]

Probably because the US ain't sending them jihadist text books like they did with Afghanistan https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... y-the-u-s/

America providing the books does not equal America inventing the ideology. The ideology is 100% Islamic and even pre-dates America; America, and Reagan particularly, were simply short-sighted enough (as they always are) to support it against the Soviets.

Modern extremist Islam is rooted in no small part with Wahhabism, which pretty much didn't exist until the late 18th century. It didn't gain any sort of actual significance until the 1950-60s, and only ballooned in the 1970's due to funding from oil exports.

Basically, extremist islam is a hell of a lot younger than most think.

[Uxupox]

Putin puts $50 Million bounty. Seems like the Russian Civilian airliner was brought down by an ISIS manufactured bomb.

[Baltenstein]

Maybe because such insane bullshit wouldn't find any followers in your average Latin American or SE Asian community/society?

Hmmm I think you're forgetting about the insane right wing paramilitary groups that committed terrorism regularly in the past.

Are they doing so now? Are they at war with all of Western civilization?

[Wdkckms]

The Kurds and Yazidis suppsedly looted Sunni Arab houses after retaking Sinjar. If this is true than one should need to understand the Yazidis after suffering from persecution. The Sunni Arab saw this coming and it is a punishment for them.

[Rio Cana]

Since cannot find the Syrian war thread then I will post here.

China is becoming more involved in the conflict in Syria. They are sending ships to Syria. They were not happy when some of there citizens were eliminated by these groups. China itself has been fighting groups like these in Western China.

Found a story on this from today from Spain but its in Spanish - http://www.msn.com/es-us/noticias/mundo ... id=U219DHP

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

"Real Muslims are like Daesh." Classy.

Mohammed was like Daesh.

Most people that identify as Muslim aren't, though. Not saying that.

Except we only know Muhammad existed, and nothing more so your statement is purely speculation.

[Korhal IVV]

Did anyone notice that ISIS never takes Russians hostage?

Its because the last time Russians got kidnapped in the middle East, the Russian government kidnapped the relatives of the kidnappers and chopped one of them apart and sent the body parts to the kidnappers, with a threat that if the don't release the Russians more body parts will be sent. The Russians were released and never again in the Middle East were Russians held hostage.

[Ganos Lao]

The Kurds and Yazidis suppsedly looted Sunni Arab houses after retaking Sinjar. If this is true than one should need to understand the Yazidis after suffering from persecution. The Sunni Arab saw this coming and it is a punishment for them.

Speaking of this, I found this article.

South of Sinjar, there's a string of ISIS-held villages, mainly populated by Arab Muslims. I ask a Yazidi commander named Badr al-Hajji if there are civilians there — families as well as men.

"Yes," he says. "They stayed there, they are ISIS and what they did is worse that what the ISIS fighters did."

And then he tells me that when his forces move on those villages, he's sure all the Arabs will flee.

"If they stay," he says, "it will be very bad for them."

Just as I predicted, especially since it's not like Badr is the only Yazidi with such thoughts. And who doubts that there aren't such thoughts among many of the Kurdish fighters? When ISIS is defeated, you can bet these guys are gonna run wild all over Sunni Arab citizens, who will in turn run wild all over theirs, thus setting the stage for a great battle that will keep the region in the condition it is now for several more years at least, though I suspect probably decades.

And to beat Gauthier to it, when the bloodbath starts, we're gonna see people on NSG here applauding the Yazidi for smashing those "Daesh bastards" even if it's actually a Sunni Arab kid's head being dashed against the rocks.

[Gauthier]

The Kurds and Yazidis suppsedly looted Sunni Arab houses after retaking Sinjar. If this is true than one should need to understand the Yazidis after suffering from persecution. The Sunni Arab saw this coming and it is a punishment for them.

Speaking of this, I found this article.

South of Sinjar, there's a string of ISIS-held villages, mainly populated by Arab Muslims. I ask a Yazidi commander named Badr al-Hajji if there are civilians there — families as well as men.

"Yes," he says. "They stayed there, they are ISIS and what they did is worse that what the ISIS fighters did."

And then he tells me that when his forces move on those villages, he's sure all the Arabs will flee.

"If they stay," he says, "it will be very bad for them."

Just as I predicted, especially since it's not like Badr is the only Yazidi with such thoughts. And who doubts that there aren't such thoughts among many of the Kurdish fighters? When ISIS is defeated, you can bet these guys are gonna run wild all over Sunni Arab citizens, who will in turn run wild all over theirs, thus setting the stage for a great battle that will keep the region in the condition it is now for several more years at least, though I suspect probably decades.

And to beat Gauthier to it, when the bloodbath starts, we're gonna see people on NSG here applauding the Yazidi for smashing those "Daesh bastards" even if it's actually a Sunni Arab kid's head being dashed against the rocks.

They'll either say the kid's relatives were Daesh, or tha he was Daesh in Training. Cue quotes of John Milton Chivington. "Nits Make Lice."

[Ganos Lao]

Speaking of this, I found this article.



Just as I predicted, especially since it's not like Badr is the only Yazidi with such thoughts. And who doubts that there aren't such thoughts among many of the Kurdish fighters? When ISIS is defeated, you can bet these guys are gonna run wild all over Sunni Arab citizens, who will in turn run wild all over theirs, thus setting the stage for a great battle that will keep the region in the condition it is now for several more years at least, though I suspect probably decades.

And to beat Gauthier to it, when the bloodbath starts, we're gonna see people on NSG here applauding the Yazidi for smashing those "Daesh bastards" even if it's actually a Sunni Arab kid's head being dashed against the rocks.

They'll either say the kid's relatives were Daesh, or tha he was Daesh in Training. Cue quotes of John Milton Chivington. "Nits Make Lice."

And all the while this bloodbath plays out, the West will fanny about, probably making things worse in the process. We're in for at least a couple decades more of bloodshed and violence in that region, assuming we manage to defeat ISIS at some point. It's only going to get very, very worse before it gets better, if at all.

Also, Anonymous released some information that claims ISIS will be attacking Paris (again), the US, Indonesia, Italy and Lebanon today yesterday.

In particular, Anonymous said ISIS had their sights on the WWE's Survivor Series PPV.

[Gauthier]

They'll either say the kid's relatives were Daesh, or tha he was Daesh in Training. Cue quotes of John Milton Chivington. "Nits Make Lice."

And all the while this bloodbath plays out, the West will fanny about, probably making things worse in the process. We're in for at least a couple decades more of bloodshed and violence in that region, assuming we manage to defeat ISIS at some point. It's only going to get very, very worse before it gets better, if at all.

Also, Anonymous released some information that claims ISIS will be attacking Paris (again), the US, Indonesia, Italy and Lebanon today yesterday.

In particular, Anonymous said ISIS had their sights on the WWE's Survivor Series PPV.

Hopefully either the state or WWE aren't one to take chances or exploit tragedy and bring out real security.

Of course knowing the WWE they'll script in a "Daesh terror attack" during Survivor Series that the superstars will "thwart" to fan ovation.

[The balkens]

And all the while this bloodbath plays out, the West will fanny about, probably making things worse in the process. We're in for at least a couple decades more of bloodshed and violence in that region, assuming we manage to defeat ISIS at some point. It's only going to get very, very worse before it gets better, if at all.

Also, Anonymous released some information that claims ISIS will be attacking Paris (again), the US, Indonesia, Italy and Lebanon today yesterday.

In particular, Anonymous said ISIS had their sights on the WWE's Survivor Series PPV.

Hopefully either the state or WWE aren't one to take chances or exploit tragedy and bring out real security.

Of course knowing the WWE they'll script in a "Daesh terror attack" during Survivor Series that the superstars will "thwart" to fan ovation.

The Iron Sheik makes his last appearance ever.

[Ganos Lao]

And all the while this bloodbath plays out, the West will fanny about, probably making things worse in the process. We're in for at least a couple decades more of bloodshed and violence in that region, assuming we manage to defeat ISIS at some point. It's only going to get very, very worse before it gets better, if at all.

Also, Anonymous released some information that claims ISIS will be attacking Paris (again), the US, Indonesia, Italy and Lebanon today yesterday.

In particular, Anonymous said ISIS had their sights on the WWE's Survivor Series PPV.

Hopefully either the state or WWE aren't one to take chances or exploit tragedy and bring out real security.

Of course knowing the WWE they'll script in a "Daesh terror attack" during Survivor Series that the superstars will "thwart" to fan ovation.

The WWE did have an Islamic terrorist gimmick at one point, but the London bombings forced UPN to tell them to stop using it.

They also did have Sgt. Slaughter as a traitor during the Gulf War, which did provoke plenty of death threats and the like in retaliation.

Also, superstars? Gotta be some way to shoehorn in the JOHN CENA meme, of course.

[Ganos Lao]

Hopefully either the state or WWE aren't one to take chances or exploit tragedy and bring out real security.

Of course knowing the WWE they'll script in a "Daesh terror attack" during Survivor Series that the superstars will "thwart" to fan ovation.

The Iron Sheik makes his last appearance ever.

Have you looked up the Sheik's tweets about ISIS?

The Iron Sheik Verified account
‏@the_ironsheik

WHAT ISIS REALLY WANTS IS FOR ME TO SUPLEX THEM BREAK THEIR FUCKING NECK PUT THEM IN CAMEL CLUTCH MAKE THEM HUMBLE

There's a lot more where that came from.