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Postby Philjia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:19 pm

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Luepola wrote:I’m proud that i helped elect the men who passed this bill


Why? Its pro-discrimination, pro-rape, and pro-murder. No person should be in favor of this bill.


Unless they're "edgy".
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Postby Kannap » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:21 pm

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Kannap wrote:Boy I hope we elect all these fools out of office in November

I'd point out, though, that your Attorney General did decide to uphold his Oath of Office (incidentally, North Carolina has some really fucked up laws about oaths) and declined to defend the law.


That was an update that I posted in this thread the day that it happened.

I recall somebody making a good point about when it's that Kim Davis woman denying marriage licenses to same sex couples, the Republicans say it's her religious freedom. When the NC Attorney General does his job by upholding the constitution, the Republicans demand he do he job to defend the law.
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Postby Setgavarius » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:28 pm

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Luepola wrote:I’m proud that i helped elect the men who passed this bill


Why? Its pro-discrimination, pro-rape, and pro-murder. No person should be in favor of this bill.

because obviously the gonads produce the hormones of the sex they end up maturing into which affect the brain in the manner of the hormones in question, and never have chromosomal abnormalities.
obviously non-cis non-46-chromosome people don't exist and even if they do they are abominations.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:29 pm

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No. No point was made. Pseudoscientific bullshit was spewed, and you got called on it.

^

Jimmies rustled


^Brains not used.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:30 pm

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Chkalovsk wrote:^

Jimmies rustled


^Brains not used.

Hey, that's not very nice.
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Postby Setgavarius » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:36 pm

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Chkalovsk wrote:^

Jimmies rustled


^Brains not used.

who ever said she had more than one?
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^Brains not used.

Hey, that's not very nice.

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Postby Kannap » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:37 pm

Luepola wrote:I’m proud that i helped elect the men who passed this bill


The good thing is that the Democrats will be taking back the state government. We have a long history of being extremely disappointed whenever we give Republican leaders a chance in the state and then just elect Democrats for the next 40 years.
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Postby Setgavarius » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:39 pm

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Luepola wrote:I’m proud that i helped elect the men who passed this bill


The good thing is that the Democrats will be taking back the state government. We have a long history of being extremely disappointed whenever we give Republican leaders a chance in the state and then just elect Democrats for the next 40 years.

Hopefully human political behavior is predictable this year.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:39 pm

Chkalovsk wrote:North Carolina is now my favourite state.


I mean, North Carolina is still my favorite state because I have lived here my entire life, but I am entirely angered at the Governor and the General Assembly and expect Democrats to sweep the state come November.
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Postby Linux and the X » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:40 pm

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^Brains not used.

Hey, that's not very nice.

Before you said that, I had exactly twenty-seven fucks. Know how many I have now?

Twenty-seven. Because I don't give a single fuck about being nice to bigots. :)
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Postby Kannap » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:42 pm

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Kannap wrote:
The good thing is that the Democrats will be taking back the state government. We have a long history of being extremely disappointed whenever we give Republican leaders a chance in the state and then just elect Democrats for the next 40 years.

Hopefully human political behavior is predictable this year.


Last time a Republican governor was elected before McCrory was some guy back in the 1980s. In the last 115 years, the state has only seen four Republican governors elected.
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Postby Setgavarius » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:48 pm

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Setgavarius wrote:Hopefully human political behavior is predictable this year.


Last time a Republican governor was elected before McCrory was some guy back in the 1980s. In the last 115 years, the state has only seen four Republican governors elected.

Impressive record. But I take the theory of induction cautiously when speaking of humans in the US in the time of Trump. I'm not sure how far the reaction against "ebil politishun" will extend but if the Democrats exploit it, perhaps they can do something with it other than be a legitimized mob of fuckwads, like the Trumpists.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:21 pm

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1. Of course you don't, since you know nothing about the issue, as you've already demonstrated.

2. This bill does nothing to protect anybody's privacy. In fact, it actively harms transgender people's privacy, and puts us at real risk of being beaten, raped, and even killed.

3. Define "help" and "coddling".

It helps to protect the privacy of men and women in spaces that are specifically exclusive to them. A man is not supposed to use the women's locker room and vice versa and it is a violation of people's privacy when the locker room, restroom, or other space that is supposed to be exclusive to their own sex is allowed to be used by people of the opposite sex.

Transgender people need "help" as in "medical and psychological help." They have a mental disorder that is being left untreated - actually, even worse, their delusions are being encouraged and reinforced. The search for actual solutions to gender identity disorder has halted, or at the very least greatly slowed, because the left thinks that THE solution is to encourage them to dive deeper into their disorder-induced delusions, which is only resulting in the extremely high suicide rate among transgender people and trouble for the rest of us.

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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:35 pm

Philjia wrote:
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It's a deviation from the norm that can impair a person's ability to live a happy life. That sounds like a disorder to me. Of course, we can't cure it or control it like other mental disorders, at least not in an ethical way. However, while we can't reshape the mind, bodies are much more malleable, so we tackle the problem from that side.


Key word being can. In order to actually be a disorder, it MUST have a demonstrable negative impact on the person's quality of life. That's why the DSM-V changed from diagnosing all trans people as mentally ill, to only diagnosing those of us with gender dysphoria as mentally ill.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:37 pm

Luepola wrote:I’m proud that i helped elect the men who passed this bill

Not surprising, given your unfunny transphobic sig.

Oh, and a preemptive "TRIGGERED!!!!!", because I love being a killjoy.

Chkalovsk wrote:North Carolina is now my favourite state.

A state implementing an impractical, harmful, grossly ignorant piece of legislation that discriminates and puts an already very vulnerable minority at further risk makes it your favourite?
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Postby Traditionalism » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:37 pm

Well, I'm glad for North Carolina. I hope to see more of this in the future.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:38 pm

Razgriskm wrote:One of the symptoms can be that they wish to build a reality that suits them, with unbreakable laws that can't be changed. "I am a women on the inside" because it helps them cope with reality. I'm being completely serious here, perhaps not all of them, since I worded that comment badly (Phone) but that's what honestly comes to mind when I hear all about this and that about it. And I mean, it's not the only symptom one can observe.

Am I wrong in guessing you are not an actual psychiatrist, psychologist or neurologist?
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:39 pm

Traditionalism wrote:Well, I'm glad for North Carolina. I hope to see more of this in the future.


Why? :eyebrow:
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Traditionalism wrote:Well, I'm glad for North Carolina. I hope to see more of this in the future.


Why? :eyebrow:

Well, because I support the bill, of course. Why else?
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:41 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Traditionalism wrote:Well, I'm glad for North Carolina. I hope to see more of this in the future.


Why? :eyebrow:


I mean, presumably because he is anti-LGBT. Not that he's right, of course.

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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:41 pm

Traditionalism wrote:Well, I'm glad for North Carolina. I hope to see more of this in the future.

Why? What exactly does this bill accomplish? What problems does it solve, and is it the most efficient, least harmful solution possible to said problems? Do you support this bill because you believe in this baseless "men pretending to be trans in women's restrooms" fearmongering, or because you have an animosity towards trans people themselves, and see any piece of legislation that restricts their rights as a public good?
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:42 pm

Traditionalism wrote:
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Why? :eyebrow:

Well, because I support the bill, of course. Why else?


Why do you support this pro-discrimination, pro-rape, pro-murder bill?
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:43 pm

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Traditionalism wrote:Well, because I support the bill, of course. Why else?


Why do you support this pro-discrimination, pro-rape, pro-murder bill?


It's a shit bill, but how is it Pro Murder and Rape?

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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:43 pm

Traditionalism wrote:
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Why? :eyebrow:

Well, because I support the bill, of course. Why else?

I'm sorry, but that's not enough.

What's your excuse? Are you afraid of men pretending to be trans to use women's restrooms and harrass women (something that has not actually happened in any of the places where anti-discrimination legislation exists)?
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:43 pm

As a North Carolinian, I just wanted to point out that most of us are nice people, and we had a democratic state legislature for hundreds of years running.

Then maniacal pricks showed up and corrupted our voting laws to Hell. We currently have multiple laws making their way to SCOTUS cause of our legislature, that almost none of us support.
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