North Carolina Passes "Anti-LGBT" Bill

[Kannap]

Maybe homophobia is just the fear of being made gay by an overwhelming presence of gays. . *nods*

No, it's the fear of the taboo kinkiness of gay sex going away due to the normalization of gay acceptance and marriages.

If gay sex starts to become far less kinky because of acceptance, just do what the heterosexuals did: Start inventing weird materials for the purpose of making sex kinkier.

When sex gets boring, invent some kind of strap that forces you into an uncomfortable position for the duration. Sex is always more fun when you're uncomfortable *nods*

[Vassenor]

Oxford, Alabama makes using the bathroom that doesn't match your birth certificate a crime with a six-month jail term

[Wallenburg]

Oxford, Alabama makes using the bathroom that doesn't match your birth certificate a crime with a six-month jail term

While they are at it, they may as well make driving Toyotas a capital offense.

[The New Falkland Islands]

Oxford, Alabama makes using the bathroom that doesn't match your birth certificate a crime with a six-month jail term

While they are at it, they may as well make driving Toyotas a capital offense.

Aye... looks like I'm going to be arrested MY BELOVED TOYOTA!! But seriously. Stupid law.

[Bartilia]

Why oppose the bill when this is upholds the civil liberties that make our nation proud?

Right to life, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, our very democratic principles which make us unafraid to act on our own accord in front of others based on our own beliefs?

[The V O I D]

Why oppose the bill when this is upholds the civil liberties that make our nation proud?

Right to life, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, our very democratic principles which make us unafraid to act on our own accord in front of others based on our own beliefs?

Because your rights end when another person's begin?

[Bartilia]

Why oppose the bill when this is upholds the civil liberties that make our nation proud?

Right to life, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, our very democratic principles which make us unafraid to act on our own accord in front of others based on our own beliefs?

Because your rights end when another person's begin?

Basically, yes.

The moment "anti discrimination" bills get signed, i am deprived of my very right to assert the values i hold dear. I am ergo, effectively oppressed in a religious sense.

Makes you wonder my many people are starting to believe why this country is getting less and less democratic.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Because your rights end when another person's begin?

Basically, yes.

The moment "anti discrimination" bills get signed, i am deprived of my very right to assert the values i hold dear. I am ergo, effectively oppressed in a religious sense.

Makes you wonder my many people are starting to believe why this country is getting less and less democratic.

So my right to be allowed to go about my daily life in peace ends at your perceived (but nonexistant) right to enforce bigotry? Makes sense.

[The V O I D]

Because your rights end when another person's begin?

Basically, yes.

The moment "anti discrimination" bills get signed, i am deprived of my very right to assert the values i hold dear. I am ergo, effectively oppressed in a religious sense.

Makes you wonder my many people are starting to believe why this country is getting less and less democratic.

Even if this argument was legitimate, I'd counter by saying that this nation was founded secular - separation of church/state and all that. You're free to be religious, but the government isn't and it isn't governed by religious law, because of how it was founded.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Oxford, Alabama makes using the bathroom that doesn't match your birth certificate a crime with a six-month jail term

Pretty hilarious since they'd have no way to enforce this shit.

[Ifreann]

Oxford, Alabama makes using the bathroom that doesn't match your birth certificate a crime with a six-month jail term

Look at that city violating state's rights. Obviously the Republicans in Alabama are outraged at this law.

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Because your rights end when another person's begin?

Basically, yes.

The moment "anti discrimination" bills get signed, i am deprived of my very right to assert the values i hold dear. I am ergo, effectively oppressed in a religious sense.

Makes you wonder my many people are starting to believe why this country is getting less and less democratic.

Haha, you think you're being oppressed because you can't impose your values on other people? That's great.

[The New Falkland Islands]

Because your rights end when another person's begin?

Basically, yes.

The moment "anti discrimination" bills get signed, i am deprived of my very right to assert the values i hold dear. I am ergo, effectively oppressed in a religious sense.

Makes you wonder my many people are starting to believe why this country is getting less and less democratic.

To cater to your religion in particular is discrimination within itself, and is a direct violation of the First Amendment. Bills are separated from religion. Also, can you please just let other people go in peace instead of enforcing your religion upon others? Thanks.
-An atheistic non-binary pansexual

[Happy People Land]

Get Rekt LGBT...




jk I wouldn't want to "trigger" anyone

In all honestly though, you can hardly tell the difference with most transgender people and if someone was a pedo I doubt they would pay the money to physically switch genders. I don't really think the law is necessary but you know, it's the south so..

[The V O I D]

I feel like I should mention Bartilia outed himself as a Poe [Poe's Law] on the abortion thread. Just saying.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Because your rights end when another person's begin?

Basically, yes.

The moment "anti discrimination" bills get signed, i am deprived of my very right to assert the values i hold dear. I am ergo, effectively oppressed in a religious sense.

Makes you wonder my many people are starting to believe why this country is getting less and less democratic.

Anti-discrimination bills do nothing to oppress you or deprive you of rights.

[Bartilia]

Basically, yes.

The moment "anti discrimination" bills get signed, i am deprived of my very right to assert the values i hold dear. I am ergo, effectively oppressed in a religious sense.

Makes you wonder my many people are starting to believe why this country is getting less and less democratic.

Even if this argument was legitimate, I'd counter by saying that this nation was founded secular - separation of church/state and all that. You're free to be religious, but the government isn't and it isn't governed by religious law, because of how it was founded.

That is contradictory because when this nation was founded on unbiased and secular values which instills rights supposedly available to and usable by EVERY MEMBER OF THE POPULATION, we should not marginalize the religious. It also contradictory to the freedom of speech which our nation proudly presents.

And enterprise is not a public service, it is a private property, ergo, with our private property, we have the right to say or determine who we wsih to serve depending on our own preferences, which this nation is proud on protecting (as the rest of the world doesn't even have this right), with the passing of "anti discrimination" bills, the forced political correctness, so on and so forth is actually determining how we should all act and say when or when not to, thus, we are depriving ourselves of individuality and eroding our democratic values.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Even if this argument was legitimate, I'd counter by saying that this nation was founded secular - separation of church/state and all that. You're free to be religious, but the government isn't and it isn't governed by religious law, because of how it was founded.

That is contradictory because when this nation was founded on unbiased and secular values which instills rights supposedly available to and usable by EVERY MEMBER OF THE POPULATION, we should not marginalize the religious. It also contradictory to the freedom of speech which our nation proudly presents.

And enterprise is not a public service, it is a private property, ergo, with our private property, we have the right to say or determine who we wsih to serve depending on our own preferences, which this nation is proud on protecting (as the rest of the world doesn't even have this right), with the passing of "anti discrimination" bills, the forced political correctness, so on and so forth is actually determining how we should all act and say when or when not to, thus, we are depriving ourselves of individuality and eroding our democratic values.

How does requiring you to suck it up and piss with a transperson violate your religious freedom? Is anyone saying you can't religiously believe that us transpeople aren't actually our genders? Is anything saying you cant buy into the outdated idea of biological determinism? No. We are just saying you cant force your religion on us. So, actually, the 1st Ammendment to the United States Constitution is on our side, not yours.

[Ifreann]

That is contradictory because when this nation was founded on unbiased and secular values which instills rights supposedly available to and usable by EVERY MEMBER OF THE POPULATION, we should not marginalize the religious. It also contradictory to the freedom of speech which our nation proudly presents.

And enterprise is not a public service, it is a private property, ergo, with our private property, we have the right to say or determine who we wsih to serve depending on our own preferences, which this nation is proud on protecting (as the rest of the world doesn't even have this right), with the passing of "anti discrimination" bills, the forced political correctness, so on and so forth is actually determining how we should all act and say when or when not to, thus, we are depriving ourselves of individuality and eroding our democratic values.

How does requiring you to suck it up and piss with a transperson violate your religious freedom? Is anyone saying you can't religiously believe that us transpeople aren't actually our genders? Is anything saying you cant buy into the outdated idea of biological determinism? No. We are just saying you cant force your religion on us. So, actually, the 1st Ammendment to the United States Constitution is on our side, not yours.

Bartilia is just pretending to be a Republican to test us. Apparently if we were real intellectuals we'd investigate the nations of everyone we argue with.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

How does requiring you to suck it up and piss with a transperson violate your religious freedom? Is anyone saying you can't religiously believe that us transpeople aren't actually our genders? Is anything saying you cant buy into the outdated idea of biological determinism? No. We are just saying you cant force your religion on us. So, actually, the 1st Ammendment to the United States Constitution is on our side, not yours.

Bartilia is just pretending to be a Republican to test us. Apparently if we were real intellectuals we'd investigate the nations of everyone we argue with.

Well aware. But I enjoy arguing, even if its a Poe. Why else would I respond to Chessmistress?

[Bartilia]

That is contradictory because when this nation was founded on unbiased and secular values which instills rights supposedly available to and usable by EVERY MEMBER OF THE POPULATION, we should not marginalize the religious. It also contradictory to the freedom of speech which our nation proudly presents.

And enterprise is not a public service, it is a private property, ergo, with our private property, we have the right to say or determine who we wsih to serve depending on our own preferences, which this nation is proud on protecting (as the rest of the world doesn't even have this right), with the passing of "anti discrimination" bills, the forced political correctness, so on and so forth is actually determining how we should all act and say when or when not to, thus, we are depriving ourselves of individuality and eroding our democratic values.

How does requiring you to suck it up and piss with a transperson violate your religious freedom? Is anyone saying you can't religiously believe that us transpeople aren't actually our genders? Is anything saying you cant buy into the outdated idea of biological determinism? No. We are just saying you cant force your religion on us. So, actually, the 1st Ammendment to the United States Constitution is on our side, not yours.

That leaves the argument of private property and rights of a person owning an enterprise.

[Vassenor]

How does requiring you to suck it up and piss with a transperson violate your religious freedom? Is anyone saying you can't religiously believe that us transpeople aren't actually our genders? Is anything saying you cant buy into the outdated idea of biological determinism? No. We are just saying you cant force your religion on us. So, actually, the 1st Ammendment to the United States Constitution is on our side, not yours.

That leaves the argument of private property and rights of a person owning an enterprise.

So we're sliding back to the days of the "no coloreds" bathrooms then?

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

How does requiring you to suck it up and piss with a transperson violate your religious freedom? Is anyone saying you can't religiously believe that us transpeople aren't actually our genders? Is anything saying you cant buy into the outdated idea of biological determinism? No. We are just saying you cant force your religion on us. So, actually, the 1st Ammendment to the United States Constitution is on our side, not yours.

That leaves the argument of private property and rights of a person owning an enterprise.

By your logic it is unjustified for the government to prevent companies from turning down service to blacks because of their skin color, which it already has done, and the US Supreme Court has already ruled in Constitutional.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Even if this argument was legitimate, I'd counter by saying that this nation was founded secular - separation of church/state and all that. You're free to be religious, but the government isn't and it isn't governed by religious law, because of how it was founded.

That is contradictory because when this nation was founded on unbiased and secular values which instills rights supposedly available to and usable by EVERY MEMBER OF THE POPULATION, we should not marginalize the religious. It also contradictory to the freedom of speech which our nation proudly presents.

And enterprise is not a public service, it is a private property, ergo, with our private property, we have the right to say or determine who we wsih to serve depending on our own preferences, which this nation is proud on protecting (as the rest of the world doesn't even have this right), with the passing of "anti discrimination" bills, the forced political correctness, so on and so forth is actually determining how we should all act and say when or when not to, thus, we are depriving ourselves of individuality and eroding our democratic values.

If an enterprise serves the public it is a public accommodation and is subject to laws requiring them to not discriminate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Atlanta_Motel%2C_Inc._v._United_States

[The Forsworn Knights]

Even if this argument was legitimate, I'd counter by saying that this nation was founded secular - separation of church/state and all that. You're free to be religious, but the government isn't and it isn't governed by religious law, because of how it was founded.

That is contradictory because when this nation was founded on unbiased and secular values which instills rights supposedly available to and usable by EVERY MEMBER OF THE POPULATION, we should not marginalize the religious. It also contradictory to the freedom of speech which our nation proudly presents.

And enterprise is not a public service, it is a private property, ergo, with our private property, we have the right to say or determine who we wsih to serve depending on our own preferences, which this nation is proud on protecting (as the rest of the world doesn't even have this right), with the passing of "anti discrimination" bills, the forced political correctness, so on and so forth is actually determining how we should all act and say when or when not to, thus, we are depriving ourselves of individuality and eroding our democratic values.

Jesus says to keep the church out of my state legislature.
Literally.

[Bartilia]

That is contradictory because when this nation was founded on unbiased and secular values which instills rights supposedly available to and usable by EVERY MEMBER OF THE POPULATION, we should not marginalize the religious. It also contradictory to the freedom of speech which our nation proudly presents.

And enterprise is not a public service, it is a private property, ergo, with our private property, we have the right to say or determine who we wsih to serve depending on our own preferences, which this nation is proud on protecting (as the rest of the world doesn't even have this right), with the passing of "anti discrimination" bills, the forced political correctness, so on and so forth is actually determining how we should all act and say when or when not to, thus, we are depriving ourselves of individuality and eroding our democratic values.

Jesus says to keep the church out of my state legislature.
Literally.

You can stop beating what is effectively a dead horse now.