American Gun Laws

[Europe and Oceania]

There are alternatives.

Peolple in Europe don't have guns and they are not dying like crazy, in fact, the U.S. actually has way more gun violence than europe and other countries in the world precisely because guns are legal for self-defense.

People are not dying like crazy...

*having more gun violence also means nothing*, im sure saudi arabia has far less swimming deaths, does that mean we need to be like them?

Lol at that absurd statement.

Also, swimming pools don't come to malls to shoot lots of people with a gun.

[North Calaveras]

People are not dying like crazy...

*having more gun violence also means nothing*, im sure saudi arabia has far less swimming deaths, does that mean we need to be like them?

Lol at that absurd statement.

Also, swimming pools don't come to malls to shoot lots of people with a gun.

and neither to the VAST VAST VAST majority of gun owners...

[Washington Resistance Army]

People are not dying like crazy...

*having more gun violence also means nothing*, im sure saudi arabia has far less swimming deaths, does that mean we need to be like them?

Lol at that absurd statement.

Also, swimming pools don't come to malls to shoot lots of people with a gun.

People aren't dying like crazy. There's 400,000,000+ guns and 100,000,000+ gun owners and 6,000-8,000 deaths a year.

[Europe and Oceania]

Lol at that absurd statement.

Also, swimming pools don't come to malls to shoot lots of people with a gun.

People aren't dying like crazy. There's 400,000,000+ guns and 100,000,000+ gun owners and 6,000-8,000 deaths a year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_viole ... ted_States

[Washington Resistance Army]

People aren't dying like crazy. There's 400,000,000+ guns and 100,000,000+ gun owners and 6,000-8,000 deaths a year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_viole ... ted_States

20,000+ of those are suicides, here's real numbers.

[North Calaveras]

which has nothing to do with guns as much as it has to do with inner city crime and murder.

not to mention that, again, the VAST majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens, so you still have no basis.

[Patrick OConner]

My uncle is a farmer. In his machine shop is everything needed to make gun. And he has access to all the supplies necessary to make bombs. Someone wants one they are going to get it. And yes the kind of 3D printer you can buy at Staples. There are even plans on the internet one can down load to print a gun. Worse no iron is need to make them so they are undetectable to metal detectors. Think about that.
Passing laws sure. All for it as long as they make seance. you were talking about Information age. Look up number of mass shooting stopped by citizens with guns.

And seriously, you want my guns take them from my cold dead hands do not care what a bunch of libtards think.

PS 300+ million guns in america right now
PSS 70 million gun owners (Cops are included here as well which there are only like 800,000 cops. Cannot use troops btw. Posse Comitatus Act.)
PSSShttps://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/ This guy covers most all of the bases

[Europe and Oceania]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_viole ... ted_States

20,000+ of those are suicides, here's real numbers.

If 61% of gun deaths are suicides then euthanasia should be legal in all 50 states and not limited to 6 month terminal illnesses, but to anybody who just can't go on wants to end it all. That'll probably bring the suicide rate down from guns and decrease the overall gun death rate in U.S.

[Washington Resistance Army]

20,000+ of those are suicides, here's real numbers.

If 61% of gun deaths are suicides then euthanasia should be legal in all 50 states and not limited to 6 month terminal illnesses, but to anybody who just can't go on wants to end it all. That'll probably bring the suicide rate down from guns and decrease the overall gun death rate in U.S.

I've actually agreed with that idea before and I do feel it should be legal.

which has nothing to do with guns as much as it has to do with inner city crime and murder.

not to mention that, again, the VAST majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens, so you still have no basis.

I feel like vast doesn't even describe it, only a fraction of one percent of gun owners are criminals.

[North Calaveras]

If 61% of gun deaths are suicides then euthanasia should be legal in all 50 states and not limited to 6 month terminal illnesses, but to anybody who just can't go on wants to end it all. That'll probably bring the suicide rate down from guns and decrease the overall gun death rate in U.S.

I've actually agreed with that idea before and I do feel it should be legal.

which has nothing to do with guns as much as it has to do with inner city crime and murder.

not to mention that, again, the VAST majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens, so you still have no basis.

I feel like vast doesn't even describe it, only a fraction of one percent of gun owners are criminals.

It's stupidly small in comparison to gun owners, seems like "don't judge the majority for the acts of a minority" only applies to other groups...hypocrites, all of them...

[Europe and Oceania]

My uncle is a farmer. In his machine shop is everything needed to make gun. And he has access to all the supplies necessary to make bombs. Someone wants one they are going to get it. And yes the kind of 3D printer you can buy at Staples. There are even plans on the internet one can down load to print a gun. Worse no iron is need to make them so they are undetectable to metal detectors. Think about that.
Passing laws sure. All for it as long as they make seance. you were talking about Information age. Look up number of mass shooting stopped by citizens with guns.

And seriously, you want my guns take them from my cold dead hands do not care what a bunch of libtards think.

PS 300+ million guns in america right now
PSS 70 million gun owners (who a large majority are cops)
PSSShttps://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/ This guy covers most all of the bases

That doesn't nullify the fact that there are still more guns because they are legal for self defense purposes.

All this means is that because of these inbred buck toothed hillbilly bigots and their craving for guns just means that criminals have more options.

Thanks to Billy Bobs all over the country we give criminals more options.

[Washington Resistance Army]

That doesn't nullify the fact that there are still more guns because they are legal for self defense purposes.

Or people just like owning them. There's only two guns I own that I'd use in self defense but I own almost a dozen and plan on getting many more.

[Patrick OConner]

Okay I see now. We got a couple of lefties here with there entrenched and brainwashed beleifs about fire arms and they are not going to change no matter how much logic we throw at them. Recommend abort now I say again abort abort.

[North Calaveras]

My uncle is a farmer. In his machine shop is everything needed to make gun. And he has access to all the supplies necessary to make bombs. Someone wants one they are going to get it. And yes the kind of 3D printer you can buy at Staples. There are even plans on the internet one can down load to print a gun. Worse no iron is need to make them so they are undetectable to metal detectors. Think about that.
Passing laws sure. All for it as long as they make seance. you were talking about Information age. Look up number of mass shooting stopped by citizens with guns.

And seriously, you want my guns take them from my cold dead hands do not care what a bunch of libtards think.

PS 300+ million guns in america right now
PSS 70 million gun owners (who a large majority are cops)
PSSShttps://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/ This guy covers most all of the bases

That doesn't nullify the fact that there are still more guns because they are legal for self defense purposes.

All this means is that because of these inbred buck toothed hillbilly bigots and their craving for guns just means that criminals have more options.

Thanks to Billy Bobs all over the country we give criminals more options.

Pardon me but who the fuck do you think your talking to? We are not inbreds, we are not buck toothed hill billys, we are americans whom hold the right to the 2nd amendment dear and for you to bring us down to some stereotypical level is disgusting.

[Patrick OConner]

*Tom Cruise voice from Top Gun*

"I say again ABORT ABORT ABORT PULL OUT!!!"

[Northern Freikur]

That doesn't nullify the fact that there are still more guns because they are legal for self defense purposes.

All this means is that because of these inbred buck toothed hillbilly bigots and their craving for guns just means that criminals have more options.

Thanks to Billy Bobs all over the country we give criminals more options.

Pardon me but who the ---- do you think your talking to? We are not inbreds, we are not buck toothed hill billys, we are americans whom hold the right to the 2nd amendment dear and for you to bring us down to some stereotypical level is disgusting.

Here Here!

[Patrick OConner]

He has got internet Balls. That is all. In real life he would not even have the balls to say that to any of our faces. And if he did i would need a gun to sort him out.

[Northern Freikur]

My uncle is a farmer. In his machine shop is everything needed to make gun. And he has access to all the supplies necessary to make bombs. Someone wants one they are going to get it. And yes the kind of 3D printer you can buy at Staples. There are even plans on the internet one can down load to print a gun. Worse no iron is need to make them so they are undetectable to metal detectors. Think about that.
Passing laws sure. All for it as long as they make seance. you were talking about Information age. Look up number of mass shooting stopped by citizens with guns.

And seriously, you want my guns take them from my cold dead hands do not care what a bunch of libtards think.

PS 300+ million guns in america right now
PSS 70 million gun owners (who a large majority are cops)
PSSShttps://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/ This guy covers most all of the bases

That doesn't nullify the fact that there are still more guns because they are legal for self defense purposes.

All this means is that because of these inbred buck toothed hillbilly bigots and their craving for guns just means that criminals have more options.

Thanks to Billy Bobs all over the country we give criminals more options.

Ahem. Do you realize that you are the real bigot here?

[Patrick OConner]

No he does not. Part of the Hypocrites nature is to be totally not self aware and know of irony.

[Patrick OConner]

HUH...they left. I guess they got tired of being wrong and being our intellectual punching bags.

[North Calaveras]

HUH...they left. I guess they got tired of being wrong and being our intellectual punching bags.

please refrain from pic spamming.

[Patrick OConner]

please refrain from pic spamming.

I could pick one. I liked them both equally. And I was not spamming yet. I was considering trolling them (since it was clear that they were not going to change their minds and were not in the least bit open to logic)

[The brianverse]

Some say guns kill people, some say people kill people, with guns. I'd say laws regarding guns more of change the types of felonies that occur.

If it were mandatory for all occupied buildings to be stratigically armed, robberies would likely go down from fear of death on behalf of the robber.

If only law enforcement officials were legally armed, there will be more petty crimes such as stealing or trespassing, but near no deaths via gun misuse.

If it were mandatory that every sane, law-abiding citizen carries a concealed firearm on public land, than only psycos would cause trouble.

But with all of these, there is a fairly apparent issue with lots of firearms being available, few touch on this one. Its psychologically unhealthy to have the worry of some psychopath picking up one of those firearms and open firing at you. In the restroom you want to relax and finish your business, at work you face a desk and aren't necessarily facing the door. If there are firearms around and everyone knows about them, most of them may have constant stress about it. That in it self may cause more people to become less sane and in severe cases, open fire at everyone.

If morale is very high with everyone, than there is the additionally possibility of gun deaths being negligible for that reason, when morale is high and sanity is strong than a large amount of incentive would be removed from initiating gun violence. Which could ultimately prevent gun violence all together leaving the only incentive to even be armed, to protect yourself from politicians, governments, and other powerful entities. Which many city folk see that as just plain irrational in the first-world western countries.

Lastly a generic idea brought up more by conservative-minded people, money. When law officials are responsible for taking care of nearly all felonies, in the modern western world they expect to get paid, and high costs of living hurts the public budget even more. Therefore fiscal-minded people would likely prefer being armed themselves than paying people to police the cities. But assuming there is a sufficient gdp per capita to tax off of to fund LEOs than your fine there. That in it self depends subjectively on how much your willing to pay in taxes.

Also note that all this is theoretical, some of the logic in this may be flawed.

[Alpinovia]

Take advice form us Australians get rid of the populates guns and only the government can have them

Yay, finally a fellow Australian!

[The Conez Imperium]

Okay I see now. We got a couple of lefties here with there entrenched and brainwashed beleifs about fire arms and they are not going to change no matter how much logic we throw at them. Recommend abort now I say again abort abort.

I've always been confused with the title of "left".

Is not everyone here "leftie" because they believe that the government should providing basic services for its citizens or that gay marriage should be legal?

What about 'North Calaveras' where in his signature, he supports gun rights and gay marriage?