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Postby Thiefs County » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:31 pm

Arkinesia wrote:
Thiefs County wrote:I don't care what branch of Islam it is, Islam is just a terrible ducking religion and it's followers are some of the worst people on earth.

Oh hey, I wondered if I could find someone who was thinking exactly like a terrorist in this thread. Was not disappointed.

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Postby The Klishi Islands » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:34 pm

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The Klishi Islands wrote:As should this.

What's that, you say? These two pages are presenting entirely opposing views? You mean that texts hundreds of years old are really hard to interpret and as such might lead to different interpretations? And that while the vast, vast majority of Muslims follow the second link's interpretations, a tiny minority follow the first's? Just like every religion on Earth has tiny groups of followers that act against the very tenants of that religion, and are condemned by the vast, vast majority of the faith?

Darn. Religion is hard. Much easier to condemn all Muslims or Islam as murderous, horrible, or anti-Western, right?

"yeah multiple terrorist attacks within the space of a year, thousands dead but can we please chill out with the islamophobia for two seconds jeez"

I like how that "quote" didn't address my point at all. Nicely done. How about instead of misrepresenting me you actually present some evidence- hard evidence, with links and facts- that Islam is inherently more violent than every other religion?
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Postby Coolidge-Eisenhower » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:46 pm

It's time for the United States and other NATO countries to stop fiddling around and establish a broad coalition of armed forces to invade ISIL-held territories and root them out from the Earth. We have seen multiple attacks in France, Belgium, and the United States that warrant a response from NATO. The more we waffle, the more likely it is that a large scale terror event may occur that exceeds the tolls seen in recent months.

And going beyond that, these continued attacks fuel the hateful rhetoric coming from demagogues like Donald Trump and Ted Cruz who support drone bombing innocent families in the Middle East and, in Cruz's recent words, "securing Muslim neighborhoods in the United States" -- meaning surveillance and scapegoating of these communities. People who are scared will start supporting these despicable policies unless we can get our stuff together and establish a coherent strategy.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:48 pm

The Klishi Islands wrote:
Thiefs County wrote:"yeah multiple terrorist attacks within the space of a year, thousands dead but can we please chill out with the islamophobia for two seconds jeez"

I like how that "quote" didn't address my point at all. Nicely done. How about instead of misrepresenting me you actually present some evidence- hard evidence, with links and facts- that Islam is inherently more violent than every other religion?



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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:28 pm

Daesh claimed responsibility? Good to know those of us saying it was them beforehand aren't ebul islamophobes just looking for an opportunity to blame Muslims.

Coolidge-Eisenhower wrote:It's time for the United States and other NATO countries to stop fiddling around and establish a broad coalition of armed forces to invade ISIL-held territories and root them out from the Earth. We have seen multiple attacks in France, Belgium, and the United States that warrant a response from NATO. The more we waffle, the more likely it is that a large scale terror event may occur that exceeds the tolls seen in recent months.

And going beyond that, these continued attacks fuel the hateful rhetoric coming from demagogues like Donald Trump and Ted Cruz who support drone bombing innocent families in the Middle East and, in Cruz's recent words, "securing Muslim neighborhoods in the United States" -- meaning surveillance and scapegoating of these communities. People who are scared will start supporting these despicable policies unless we can get our stuff together and establish a coherent strategy.


I doubt it's going to happen, the public in every Western country is pretty averse to more ground operations.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:08 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I doubt it's going to happen, the public in every Western country is pretty averse to more ground operations.


ISIS knows this quite well, in fact. It's a key part of their overall strategy.



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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:13 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I doubt it's going to happen, the public in every Western country is pretty averse to more ground operations.


ISIS knows this quite well, in fact. It's a key part of their overall strategy.


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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:20 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ganos Lao wrote:
ISIS knows this quite well, in fact. It's a key part of their overall strategy.


Damned if you, damned if you don't. There's no easy way out of all this.


Yep. And that's because any other way than the current is rejected because it makes too much sense, which means it doesn't make money or validate absurd, obsolete beliefs.



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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ganos Lao wrote:
ISIS knows this quite well, in fact. It's a key part of their overall strategy.


Damned if you, damned if you don't. There's no easy way out of all this.


Nope. IS has it incredibly easy. Construct a few bombs for a few quid, send terrorist, *boom*, watch how the enemy spends millions if not billions.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:47 pm

Coolidge-Eisenhower wrote:It's time for the United States and other NATO countries to stop fiddling around and establish a broad coalition of armed forces to invade ISIL-held territories and root them out from the Earth. We have seen multiple attacks in France, Belgium, and the United States that warrant a response from NATO. The more we waffle, the more likely it is that a large scale terror event may occur that exceeds the tolls seen in recent months.

And going beyond that, these continued attacks fuel the hateful rhetoric coming from demagogues like Donald Trump and Ted Cruz who support drone bombing innocent families in the Middle East and, in Cruz's recent words, "securing Muslim neighborhoods in the United States" -- meaning surveillance and scapegoating of these communities. People who are scared will start supporting these despicable policies unless we can get our stuff together and establish a coherent strategy.


And did this work for Afghanistan? I still believe Al-Qaeda are still existent in Afghanistan despite 14 years of occupation. What makes you think that your suggested strategy will work?
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:10 pm

Thiefs County wrote:
The Klishi Islands wrote:As should this.

What's that, you say? These two pages are presenting entirely opposing views? You mean that texts hundreds of years old are really hard to interpret and as such might lead to different interpretations? And that while the vast, vast majority of Muslims follow the second link's interpretations, a tiny minority follow the first's? Just like every religion on Earth has tiny groups of followers that act against the very tenants of that religion, and are condemned by the vast, vast majority of the faith?

Darn. Religion is hard. Much easier to condemn all Muslims or Islam as murderous, horrible, or anti-Western, right?

"yeah multiple terrorist attacks within the space of a year, thousands dead but can we please chill out with the islamophobia for two seconds jeez"

The United States loses more to gun violence every year then it does to terrorism, and we're clearly not willing to do anything about the former.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:20 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Damned if you, damned if you don't. There's no easy way out of all this.


Nope. IS has it incredibly easy. Construct a few bombs for a few quid, send terrorist, *boom*, watch how the enemy spends millions if not billions.
Profit.


Not to mention watch the enemy get you tons of fresh new recruits.

As Blackadder would often muse to Baldrick, it's a cunning plan.



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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:20 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Thiefs County wrote:"yeah multiple terrorist attacks within the space of a year, thousands dead but can we please chill out with the islamophobia for two seconds jeez"

The United States loses more to gun violence every year then it does to terrorism, and we're clearly not willing to do anything about the former.


that's not because of guns, that's socio-economic.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:23 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The United States loses more to gun violence every year then it does to terrorism, and we're clearly not willing to do anything about the former.


that's not because of guns, that's socio-economic.

Go do that song and dance with someone else.
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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:25 pm

Genivaria wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
that's not because of guns, that's socio-economic.

Go do that song and dance with someone else.


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Postby Alyakia » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:31 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The United States loses more to gun violence every year then it does to terrorism, and we're clearly not willing to do anything about the former.


that's not because of guns, that's socio-economic.


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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:32 pm

Alyakia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
that's not because of guns, that's socio-economic.


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I am a proud patriot thank you :p
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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:44 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Coolidge-Eisenhower wrote:It's time for the United States and other NATO countries to stop fiddling around and establish a broad coalition of armed forces to invade ISIL-held territories and root them out from the Earth. We have seen multiple attacks in France, Belgium, and the United States that warrant a response from NATO. The more we waffle, the more likely it is that a large scale terror event may occur that exceeds the tolls seen in recent months.

And going beyond that, these continued attacks fuel the hateful rhetoric coming from demagogues like Donald Trump and Ted Cruz who support drone bombing innocent families in the Middle East and, in Cruz's recent words, "securing Muslim neighborhoods in the United States" -- meaning surveillance and scapegoating of these communities. People who are scared will start supporting these despicable policies unless we can get our stuff together and establish a coherent strategy.


And did this work for Afghanistan? I still believe Al-Qaeda are still existent in Afghanistan despite 14 years of occupation. What makes you think that your suggested strategy will work?


What they did in Iraq, they did in Afghanistan.

Remember Hamid Karzai?

Let's not forget electoral fraud was rampant, that the CIA was so entrenched in his administration with tons of black cash (called ghost money in Congress; MI6 also sent a ton of ghost money also) to the point that it was observed that "the biggest source of corruption in Afghanistan was the United States," that his family profitted immensely off the corruption (to the point Afghanistan was tied with Somalia and the DPRK on the CPI) and escaped justice after the Kabul Bank scandal (given immunity), and that he signed for a law that all but restored the Taliban's policies concerning women and the Shiite minority?

But just like al-Maliki, Karzai got away with it.

Wikileaks cables show a lot too. The US embassy, in fact, recieved a request from the interior minister of Karzai to "quash" a story about foreign contractors who were taking an interest in "dancing boys."

The contrators in question, DynCorp, were noted for being involved in a similar case in the 1990s during the crisis in Bosnia (the famous case that Kathryn Bolkovac blew the whistle on).
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Postby Stormwrath » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:52 am

Well, shit. ISIS was indeed behind it.

Disregard what I have said several pages earlier. xD

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Postby North Calaveras » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:56 am

Stormwrath wrote:Well, shit. ISIS was indeed behind it.

Disregard what I have said several pages earlier. xD


well...it's not hard to fuck that conclusion up...
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Postby Zakuvia » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:04 am

A brilliant move on ISIS part. Their bombing of another European bastion further alienates the refugees they created. Seen as part of the problem, the refugees will be targeted for persecution and violence, radicalizing the more hopeless among them. Those then join ISIS or create their own Islamist factions and the cycle continues ad infinitum, or until our species finally gets over their invisible friends.

Actually, is it just me, or does this all smack curiously similar to the plot of Ghost in the Shell: Second Gig?
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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:13 am

So reports are coming in that one of the suspects in the attacks has been arrested.
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Postby Esternial » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:38 am

Costa Fierro wrote:So reports are coming in that one of the suspects in the attacks has been arrested.


Najim Laachraouin, considered as the terrorist that escaped from Zaventem, has allegedly been caught. A press conference at 13:00 local time will give more information, as some sources claim they didn't catch him.

Also, there are now 35 deaths in total.
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Postby Bear Connors Paradiso » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:21 am

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Postby Esternial » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:24 am

Research and jihadi-expert Montasser AlDe’emeh has said that he will join the Belgian Army as a volunteer.

"The enemies of our people have opened the gates of hell. I call on our people (muslim and not-muslim) to be united. Our enemies are trying to divide us."

"I don't want to hear any criticism. Tens of people have died. All lines have been crossed."

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