Brussels Terrorist Attack: ISIS Claims Responsibility

[Xanama]

Okay, I'm just minding my business and then only a hour later the atmosphere in this thread has changed from colloquial, calm discussion, to heavy arguments left and right here. What did happen?

COnflicting veiws sometimes get out of hand, but it does settle down to a discussion soon, either over time or a mod has to come and kick someones ass, Any way, I want it back to a discussion, I just heard about this an hour ago

[Kriga]

I'm not anti-refugee. Wherever did you get that notion?

What about your opinion on what should be done to combat the radical threat?

I am sorry, I meant Susria.

Optimally, I want trainers and equipment sent to the countries where ISIS is.

Give a man a fish he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish he will be fed for a life time.

But more airstrikes and soldiers sent to fight ISIS would be better than nothing at all.

As long as they are prepared to accept more refugees from the places they are fighting in.

Airstrikes made by the coalition are usually concentrated. Why should they automatically accept refugees because they're bombing isis. You make it sound like its entirely their fault.

[Gauthier]

I am sorry, I meant Susria.

Optimally, I want trainers and equipment sent to the countries where ISIS is.

Give a man a fish he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish he will be fed for a life time.

But more airstrikes and soldiers sent to fight ISIS would be better than nothing at all.

As long as they are prepared to accept more refugees from the places they are fighting in.

Airstrikes made by the coalition are usually concentrated. Why should they automatically accept refugees because they're bombing isis. You make it sound like its entirely their fault.

Normal people shrug off bombings like summer rain.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I am sorry, I meant Susria.

Optimally, I want trainers and equipment sent to the countries where ISIS is.

Give a man a fish he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish he will be fed for a life time.

But more airstrikes and soldiers sent to fight ISIS would be better than nothing at all.

As long as they are prepared to accept more refugees from the places they are fighting in.

Airstrikes made by the coalition are usually concentrated. Why should they automatically accept refugees because they're bombing isis. You make it sound like its entirely their fault.

Air strikes...can go wrong.

Also, they still are blowing up buildings where they used to live.

[Kriga]

Airstrikes made by the coalition are usually concentrated. Why should they automatically accept refugees because they're bombing isis. You make it sound like its entirely their fault.

Normal people shrug off bombings like summer rain.

Is that sarcasm? Bombings are a pretty big thing. Look at what Russia did to ISIS' capital. Completely levelled it.

[Xanama]

I am sorry, I meant Susria.

Optimally, I want trainers and equipment sent to the countries where ISIS is.

Give a man a fish he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish he will be fed for a life time.

But more airstrikes and soldiers sent to fight ISIS would be better than nothing at all.

As long as they are prepared to accept more refugees from the places they are fighting in.

Airstrikes made by the coalition are usually concentrated.

In two majour places, Aleppo and Abu Kamal

[Kriga]

Airstrikes made by the coalition are usually concentrated. Why should they automatically accept refugees because they're bombing isis. You make it sound like its entirely their fault.

Air strikes...can go wrong.

Also, they still are blowing up buildings where they used to live.

No doubt about that, but compared to what the war is doing to the civilians, airstrikes aren't as bad. They do damage ISIS, so there is no denying that they are not effective. I think a combination of concentrated airstrikes and support for forces against ISIS will help defeat it. Refugees should be accepted gradually, so that governments can make sure they have a place to stay, rather than hastily rush them in.

[Xanama]

Air strikes...can go wrong.

Also, they still are blowing up buildings where they used to live.

No doubt about that, but compared to what the war is doing to the civilians, airstrikes aren't as bad. They do damage ISIS, so there is no denying that they are not effective. I think a combination of concentrated airstrikes and support for forces against ISIS will help defeat it. Refugees should be accepted gradually, so that governments can make sure they have a place to stay, rather than hastily rush them in.

How can we tell if they are legitimate refugees or ISIS Fighters?

[Libertine States of America]

Well, we all know how this is going to end: One side makes good points, the other side blows the threat of terrorism out of proportion, right-wing parties exploit tragedy to gain power. It's all fucking predictable.

[Fartsniffage]

And it fucking happens again. Absolutely fucking ridiculous and intolerable.

You're right. The US and the UK needs to start paying compensation for these attacks in Europe....

[Kriga]

No doubt about that, but compared to what the war is doing to the civilians, airstrikes aren't as bad. They do damage ISIS, so there is no denying that they are not effective. I think a combination of concentrated airstrikes and support for forces against ISIS will help defeat it. Refugees should be accepted gradually, so that governments can make sure they have a place to stay, rather than hastily rush them in.

How can we tell if they are legitimate refugees or ISIS Fighters?

That is the problem. How do we know. Well, most of the terorist attacks committed on behalf of Isis, have been caused by homegrown terrorists. That's not to say that isis could take advantage of the mass migration. We need an advanced screening process. But more importantly, we need to heighten security measures and possibly increase surveillance reasonably enough, so that we can monitor and foil any potential terror plots. I'm not calling for a police state-type survelience, but we do need to increase security.

[Xanama]

And it fucking happens again. Absolutely fucking ridiculous and intolerable.

You're right. The US and the UK needs to start paying compensation for these attacks in Europe....

I can agree on stopping the payment, Belgium has a large economy itself, Along with france

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Air strikes...can go wrong.

Also, they still are blowing up buildings where they used to live.

No doubt about that, but compared to what the war is doing to the civilians, airstrikes aren't as bad. They do damage ISIS, so there is no denying that they are not effective. I think a combination of concentrated airstrikes and support for forces against ISIS will help defeat it. Refugees should be accepted gradually, so that governments can make sure they have a place to stay, rather than hastily rush them in.

But they need a place to live as soon as possible.

No doubt about that, but compared to what the war is doing to the civilians, airstrikes aren't as bad. They do damage ISIS, so there is no denying that they are not effective. I think a combination of concentrated airstrikes and support for forces against ISIS will help defeat it. Refugees should be accepted gradually, so that governments can make sure they have a place to stay, rather than hastily rush them in.

How can we tell if they are legitimate refugees or ISIS Fighters?

No need to worry about that, only >1% of people get resettled and then you still have to get past: UN, UNHCR, FBI, Department of state, and local law enforcement.

[Xanama]

How can we tell if they are legitimate refugees or ISIS Fighters?

That is the problem. How do we know. Well, most of the terorist attacks committed on behalf of Isis, have been caused by homegrown terrorists. That's not to say that isis could take advantage of the mass migration. We need an advanced screening process. But more importantly, we need to heighten security measures and possibly increase surveillance reasonably enough, so that we can monitor and foil any potential terror plots. I'm not calling for a police state-type survelience, but we do need to increase security.

Enough security to prevent these attacks, while everyone keeping the freedoms they are born with in their home nation

[Fartsniffage]

You're right. The US and the UK needs to start paying compensation for these attacks in Europe....

I can agree on stopping the payment, Belgium has a large economy itself, Along with france

Stopping what payment?

[Libertine States of America]

Air strikes...can go wrong.

Also, they still are blowing up buildings where they used to live.

No doubt about that, but compared to what the war is doing to the civilians, airstrikes aren't as bad. They do damage ISIS, so there is no denying that they are not effective. I think a combination of concentrated airstrikes and support for forces against ISIS will help defeat it. Refugees should be accepted gradually, so that governments can make sure they have a place to stay, rather than hastily rush them in.

Yeah, it's not like the terrorists can just simply create a new organization and continue killing people no matter what the US or UK does. Honestly, attacking ISIS isn't going to do anything to stop Middle Eastern terrorism in general.

[Shofercia]

The Belgian fire service told local media there were at least several dead and wounded.
The cause of the explosions is unknown. The airport is being evacuated and has been closed to flights.
The blasts come four days after the capture in Brussels of Salah Abdeslam, the main suspect in the Paris attacks in November.
Images on social media showed smoke rising from one of the buildings, amid reports of panic as people fled the airport.
Rail transport to the facility has been halted.
Other reports say at least one explosion was close to the American Airlines check-in area but this has not been confirmed.
The Belgian broadcaster RTBF quoted a witness as saying there were people injured or unconscious in the departure area, opposite the Sheraton hotel.
Niels Caignau, a Swissport employee, told Flemish broadcaster VRT: "I was on a break and heard and felt a big explosion - we have from here a view over the departure hall and saw a plume of smoke come out.
"The windows are completely shattered. People went outside in shock. It doesn't look good."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35869254?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

From the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/22/brussels-airport-explosions-heard

Passengers are being evacuated from Brussels airport, where two loud explosions have been heard.

Smoke was seen rising from a terminal building and Belgian media reported that several people were injured in a departure hall. The cause of the blasts is unclear.

Sky News television’s Alex Rossi, at the scene, said he heard two “very, very loud explosions”.

“I could feel the building move. There was also dust and smoke as well … I went towards where the explosion came from and there were people coming out looking very dazed and shocked,” he said.

The federal prosecutor confirmed to Politico that explosions took place, but could not confirm if they were terrorist attacks.

Two explosions at Zaventem airport, one in at least one terminal building. While it has yet to be determined the cause, there is of course the possibility that it could be a terrorist attack. Hopefully no one was killed or seriously wounded, but I expect that to not be the case, unfortunately. Thread will be updated continuously, though a proper fully accurate OP won't be coming until most of the facts are known.
One explosion believed to be at the American Airlines check-in.

Video of the explosion can be found here: Warning, it may be disturbing to some. https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/712188304150679552/video/1 No longer available.


Summary: What we know are that there have been at least three blasts; two at the airport at 8 am and one confirmed Metro station Maelbeek at 9ish am. 31 have been killed, though this may still rise and 250 wounded. Officially a terrorist attack and Daesh has claimed responsibility. Reports of gunfire in the airport and shouting in Arabic before the explosions at the airport. Airport bombings confirmed to have been suicide bombings. Brussels is now under complete lockdown and Belgium is currently at its highest threat alert level. Hopefully, our resident NSGers that are in Brussels are safe and remain safe until this all ends.

Source for ISIS claiming responsibility: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-blast-idUSKCN0WO0LB?utm_source=Facebook
Live updates: http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-35869266
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/mar/22/brussels-airport-explosions-live-updates
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2016-03-22/several-dead-in-two-explosions-at-brussels-airport/
http://news.sky.com/story/1664469/explosions-at-brussels-airport-live-updates

Twitter links: https://twitter.com/Conflicts
https://twitter.com/AAhronheim?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
https://twitter.com/Tabagari
Warning for the second and third for extremely graphic and disturbing content. Proceed at your own caution.

That's horrible! My condolences. Any NSGers in Belgium?

ISIS is just an organization that must want to be destroyed or something. It's like the Sado-Masochist United Club, with added terror and dread to boot.

[Xanama]

I can agree on stopping the payment, Belgium has a large economy itself, Along with france

Stopping what payment?

I don't keep up with the news or politics that often, Nevermind....
I've just died a bit more inside

[Gauthier]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35869254?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

From the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/22/brussels-airport-explosions-heard



Two explosions at Zaventem airport, one in at least one terminal building. While it has yet to be determined the cause, there is of course the possibility that it could be a terrorist attack. Hopefully no one was killed or seriously wounded, but I expect that to not be the case, unfortunately. Thread will be updated continuously, though a proper fully accurate OP won't be coming until most of the facts are known.
One explosion believed to be at the American Airlines check-in.

Video of the explosion can be found here: Warning, it may be disturbing to some. https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/712188304150679552/video/1 No longer available.


Summary: What we know are that there have been at least three blasts; two at the airport at 8 am and one confirmed Metro station Maelbeek at 9ish am. 31 have been killed, though this may still rise and 250 wounded. Officially a terrorist attack and Daesh has claimed responsibility. Reports of gunfire in the airport and shouting in Arabic before the explosions at the airport. Airport bombings confirmed to have been suicide bombings. Brussels is now under complete lockdown and Belgium is currently at its highest threat alert level. Hopefully, our resident NSGers that are in Brussels are safe and remain safe until this all ends.

Source for ISIS claiming responsibility: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-blast-idUSKCN0WO0LB?utm_source=Facebook
Live updates: http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-35869266
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/mar/22/brussels-airport-explosions-live-updates
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2016-03-22/several-dead-in-two-explosions-at-brussels-airport/
http://news.sky.com/story/1664469/explosions-at-brussels-airport-live-updates

Twitter links: https://twitter.com/Conflicts
https://twitter.com/AAhronheim?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
https://twitter.com/Tabagari
Warning for the second and third for extremely graphic and disturbing content. Proceed at your own caution.

That's horrible! My condolences. Any NSGers in Belgium?

ISIS is just an organization that must want to be destroyed or something. It's like the Sado-Masochist United Club, with added terror and dread to boot.

They think if they can get the West to shit all over Muslims then those Muslims will have no choice but to join with them and they'll finally be able to form their wet dream caliphate.

[Napkiraly]

Well, we all know how this is going to end: One side makes good points, the other side blows the threat of terrorism out of proportion, right-wing parties exploit tragedy to gain power. It's all fucking predictable.

People on both sides can and have made good points. For instance, many of the people saying that there is a massive issue with fundamentalism in Islam are some of the ones we could consider "right wing".

[Napkiraly]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35869254?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

From the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/22/brussels-airport-explosions-heard



Two explosions at Zaventem airport, one in at least one terminal building. While it has yet to be determined the cause, there is of course the possibility that it could be a terrorist attack. Hopefully no one was killed or seriously wounded, but I expect that to not be the case, unfortunately. Thread will be updated continuously, though a proper fully accurate OP won't be coming until most of the facts are known.
One explosion believed to be at the American Airlines check-in.

Video of the explosion can be found here: Warning, it may be disturbing to some. https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/712188304150679552/video/1 No longer available.


Summary: What we know are that there have been at least three blasts; two at the airport at 8 am and one confirmed Metro station Maelbeek at 9ish am. 31 have been killed, though this may still rise and 250 wounded. Officially a terrorist attack and Daesh has claimed responsibility. Reports of gunfire in the airport and shouting in Arabic before the explosions at the airport. Airport bombings confirmed to have been suicide bombings. Brussels is now under complete lockdown and Belgium is currently at its highest threat alert level. Hopefully, our resident NSGers that are in Brussels are safe and remain safe until this all ends.

Source for ISIS claiming responsibility: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-blast-idUSKCN0WO0LB?utm_source=Facebook
Live updates: http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-35869266
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/mar/22/brussels-airport-explosions-live-updates
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2016-03-22/several-dead-in-two-explosions-at-brussels-airport/
http://news.sky.com/story/1664469/explosions-at-brussels-airport-live-updates

Twitter links: https://twitter.com/Conflicts
https://twitter.com/AAhronheim?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
https://twitter.com/Tabagari
Warning for the second and third for extremely graphic and disturbing content. Proceed at your own caution.

That's horrible! My condolences. Any NSGers in Belgium?

ISIS is just an organization that must want to be destroyed or something. It's like the Sado-Masochist United Club, with added terror and dread to boot.

All of our Belgian NSGers are fine. Well, Daesh is an apocalyptic cult if things are to believed. I don't think they want to be destroyed rather they are doing what they believe to be just, holy, and God's will.

[Napkiraly]

And it fucking happens again. Absolutely fucking ridiculous and intolerable.

You're right. The US and the UK needs to start paying compensation for these attacks in Europe....

Pardon?

[Shofercia]

That's horrible! My condolences. Any NSGers in Belgium?

ISIS is just an organization that must want to be destroyed or something. It's like the Sado-Masochist United Club, with added terror and dread to boot.

They think if they can get the West to shit all over Muslims then those Muslims will have no choice but to join with them and they'll finally be able to form their wet dream caliphate.

There's a slight flaw in their plan, namely that not all people are crazy sado-masochists that enjoy murder, violence, and death. Otherwise it's the plan.

Met with a Muslim for a business deal earlier today. He told me about it, clearly shocked. We paid respect with a minute of silence, donated to a Belgian child charity, and went on with business as usual.

[Shofercia]

That's horrible! My condolences. Any NSGers in Belgium?

ISIS is just an organization that must want to be destroyed or something. It's like the Sado-Masochist United Club, with added terror and dread to boot.

All of our Belgian NSGers are fine. Well, Daesh is an apocalyptic cult if things are to believed. I don't think they want to be destroyed rather they are doing what they believe to be just, holy, and God's will.

That's good to hear.

As for Daesh/ISIS, how the fuck is murdering innocent people just? How the fuck is raping innocent children just? Eventually the rest of us would just be like "fuck it, we need a good reality show, Russia, China, US, France, UK - whomever takes the most land from Daesh/ISIS wins!"

[Napkiraly]

All of our Belgian NSGers are fine. Well, Daesh is an apocalyptic cult if things are to believed. I don't think they want to be destroyed rather they are doing what they believe to be just, holy, and God's will.

That's good to hear.

As for Daesh/ISIS, how the fuck is murdering innocent people just? How the fuck is raping innocent children just? Eventually the rest of us would just be like "fuck it, we need a good reality show, Russia, China, US, France, UK - whomever takes the most land from Daesh/ISIS wins!"

Interpretations of religious text that provide legitimacy in their eyes.

No one is really wanting to have tons of boots on the ground.