Brussels Terrorist Attack: ISIS Claims Responsibility

[Valaran]

But very few recent deaths from either, as I understand.

Well the ETA hasn't been active in about 5 years and I'm not aware of any splinter groups that have continued on. Dissident republicans will flare up a bit once in awhile.

IIRC as well, religious based terrorism has a low amount of successful attacks but takes up a rather big chunk in arrests and foiled attacks.

Precisely. Let alone the amount of effort the various agencies have needed to monitor, infiltrate, and so on, and the disparity becomes even clearer.

[Esceen]

Very few recent deaths. That wasn't a death if I'm reading correctly

Nope, he died.

The statement is still correct

[Uxupox]

http://i.imgur.com/qdHEXax.jpg

just found this image. should be good reading for all our experts on european terrorism in this thread.

You think people care about statistics? The same reasoning is used when confronted statistics show that gun related violence is decreasing in the United States and people yet ignore it.

[Alyakia]

Earlier this month, in fact.

That's still clearly less of an issue compared to Islamic terrorism. Obviously that means fuck all to the victim, but what is your point here, exactly? That the IRA, or some offshoot, are poised to launch another massive terror related campaign? I doubt it. But you know who is? IS.

In the 80s the IRA were bombing right across the UK. That is far worse compared to the current situation of separatist terrorism, which is what Napi was suggesting.

we are expecting a massive attack in april, or at least a valiant attempt at such, yes

part of it is just annoyance at how youngsters and americans act like the muslims are an insurmountable threat that is on the verge of crushing us and eurabia and yadda yadda without having any sense of scope

e: also the government fucked up the northern ireland budget so fast they almost kicked everything off again, it's still a surprising fragile situation, but that's neither here nor there

[YoriZ]

http://i.imgur.com/qdHEXax.jpg

just found this image. should be good reading for all our experts on european terrorism in this thread.

You think people care about statistics? The same reasoning is used when confronted statistics show that gun related violence is decreasing in the United States and people yet ignore it.

I do care about statistics.
What this learns us is that, based on the fact that we have had a period of almost no terrorism and the reactions on the recent grave acts of terrorism, we have become less and less tolerant toward terrorism.
So start focussing on preventing terrorism!

[Valaran]

That's still clearly less of an issue compared to Islamic terrorism. Obviously that means fuck all to the victim, but what is your point here, exactly? That the IRA, or some offshoot, are poised to launch another massive terror related campaign? I doubt it. But you know who is? IS.

In the 80s the IRA were bombing right across the UK. That is far worse compared to the current situation of separatist terrorism, which is what Napi was suggesting.

we are expecting a massive attack in april, or at least a valiant attempt at such, yes

part of it is just annoyance at how youngsters and americans act like the muslims are an insurmountable threat that is on the verge of crushing us and eurabia and yadda yadda without having any sense of scope

e: also the government fucked up the northern ireland budget so fast they almost kicked everything off again, it's still a surprising fragile situation, but that's neither here nor there

I see you edited your post, so I reworked mine.

Well, firstly, that's a touch stereotyping. I haven't seen that many young and/or Americans say this as Europeans (e: in fairness, who may still be young), actually. Secondly, I get what you mean, and I know what you are arguing against, and I agree. But thirdly, I am not sure why you are disagreeing with me for stating that Islamic extremist terrorism is currently a greater issue. It clearly is. One can say, in the past, separatist terrorism was relatively worse than extremist terrorism today (though its a hard thing to compare, really, given different attitudes and all), but the points Napi made - that separatist terrorism is declining/has declined, and that the current issue of note is Islamic extremist terrorism, both still are true.


I do agree that its more fragile than most non-NI Brits realise, but the level is still not the same.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Yet another one. So sensless

[Rio Cana]

Like I already stated some pages back, chances are this will weaken the so called EU. government. People will consider it a weak and inefficient organization. And if we include the possibility of the UK. leaving the EU., then EU. is done for has a political organization. It might continue has an economic organization. We could possibly be seeing in parts of Europe the split of Europe into groups of organizations for example an Eastern Europe organization and so on.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Like I already stated some pages back, chances are this will weaken the so called EU. government. People will consider it a weak and inefficient organization. And if we include the possibility of the UK. leaving the EU., then EU. is done for has a political organization. It might continue has an economic organization. We could possibly be seeing in parts of Europe the split of Europe into groups of organizations for example an Eastern Europe organization and so on.

Making a bad situation worst

[Unified Governments]

That's still clearly less of an issue compared to Islamic terrorism. Obviously that means fuck all to the victim, but what is your point here, exactly? That the IRA, or some offshoot, are poised to launch another massive terror related campaign? I doubt it. But you know who is? IS.

In the 80s the IRA were bombing right across the UK. That is far worse compared to the current situation of separatist terrorism, which is what Napi was suggesting.

we are expecting a massive attack in april, or at least a valiant attempt at such, yes

part of it is just annoyance at how youngsters and americans act like the muslims are an insurmountable threat that is on the verge of crushing us and eurabia and yadda yadda without having any sense of scope

e: also the government fucked up the northern ireland budget so fast they almost kicked everything off again, it's still a surprising fragile situation, but that's neither here nor there

"All Americans think a certain way"

"Totally not bigoted though"

[Susria]

Haha.

#RefugeesWelcome

[Rio Cana]

Like I already stated some pages back, chances are this will weaken the so called EU. government. People will consider it a weak and inefficient organization. And if we include the possibility of the UK. leaving the EU., then EU. is done for has a political organization. It might continue has an economic organization. We could possibly be seeing in parts of Europe the split of Europe into groups of organizations for example an Eastern Europe organization and so on.

Making a bad situation worst

Not really. I think its time for Eastern Europe to have more say in what direction Europe should take. So far it seems Western Europe (this includes Germany which is in Central Europe) has been in charge of the direction Europe has been going. We need to remember that Europe is not just Western Europe. And Eastern Europe seems to be on the front lines when it comes to the crisis in the ME. and when there are problems with Russia.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Making a bad situation worst

Not really. I think its time for Eastern Europe to have more say in what direction Europe should take. So far it seems Western Europe (this includes Germany which is in Central Europe) has been in charge of the direction Europe has been going. We need to remember that Europe is not just Western Europe. And Eastern Europe seems to be on the front lines when it comes to the crisis in the ME. and when there are problems with Russia.

Sure they deserve more say, but to split up would only serve to divide at a time when unity is needed

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Haha.

#RefugeesWelcome

Why are you laughing at something evil and trying forward your own agenda?

[Alyakia]

we are expecting a massive attack in april, or at least a valiant attempt at such, yes

part of it is just annoyance at how youngsters and americans act like the muslims are an insurmountable threat that is on the verge of crushing us and eurabia and yadda yadda without having any sense of scope

e: also the government fucked up the northern ireland budget so fast they almost kicked everything off again, it's still a surprising fragile situation, but that's neither here nor there

"All Americans think a certain way"

"Totally not bigoted though"

you know what i meant. you'll be fine.

[Kriga]

Haha.

#RefugeesWelcome

Why are you laughing at something evil and trying forward your own agenda?

Why are you always acting very snarky for no reason at all? I get that others do, but you seem to go out of your way to fight fire with fire. Doesn't really work.

What is your opinion on the terrorist attack anyway?

[Trollgaard]

And it fucking happens again. Absolutely fucking ridiculous and intolerable.

[Xanama]

Only now did i hear of the tragedy over dinner, My heart goes out to all who lost a loved one... Another thing... they seem to be moving up in Europe, could Amsterdam be the next target?

[Central Mursia]

http://i.imgur.com/qdHEXax.jpg

just found this image. should be good reading for all our experts on european terrorism in this thread.

Most of those deaths were because of The Troubles in Northern Ireland and then the ETA. Those are old problems that were solved. Now there's a new one.

Well, not exactly completly solved, there is stil tension
But I guess that will never change

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Why are you laughing at something evil and trying forward your own agenda?

Why are you always acting very snarky for no reason at all? I get that others do, but you seem to go out of your way to fight fire with fire. Doesn't really work.

What is your opinion on the terrorist attack anyway?

I was being serious not snarkey.

Kriga was trying to forward his anti refugee agenda using this tragedy.

As for my opinion:

My condolences to the victims.

[Xanama]

Haha.

#RefugeesWelcome

That's not something Funny, Nothing funny about this

[Unified Governments]

"All Americans think a certain way"

"Totally not bigoted though"

you know what i meant. you'll be fine.

"Muslims are intolerant"

"You know what I meant, you'll be fine"

[Kriga]

Why are you always acting very snarky for no reason at all? I get that others do, but you seem to go out of your way to fight fire with fire. Doesn't really work.

What is your opinion on the terrorist attack anyway?

I was being serious not snarkey.

Kriga was trying to forward his anti refugee agenda using this tragedy.

As for my opinion:

My condolences to the victims.

I'm not anti-refugee. Wherever did you get that notion?

What about your opinion on what should be done to combat the radical threat?

[Herargon]

Okay, I'm just minding my business and then only a hour later the atmosphere in this thread has changed from colloquial, calm discussion, to heavy arguments left and right here. What did happen?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I was being serious not snarkey.

Kriga was trying to forward his anti refugee agenda using this tragedy.

As for my opinion:

I'm not anti-refugee. Wherever did you get that notion?

What about your opinion on what should be done to combat the radical threat?

I am sorry, I meant Susria.

Optimally, I want trainers and equipment sent to the countries where ISIS is.

Give a man a fish he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish he will be fed for a life time.

But more airstrikes and soldiers sent to fight ISIS would be better than nothing at all.

As long as they are prepared to accept more refugees from the places they are fighting in.