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by American Imperial State » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:17 pm

by Gauthier » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:18 pm
Vassenor wrote:Unified Governments wrote:Nah, I think we need to import more Syrian refugees. So what if a few hundred people are butchered in terrorist is attacks? So what if people are raped, murdered, and beaten? I'm sure George Soros will protect us.
How about enough, Gauth? How about, just for once, enough?
I'm loving the appeal to emotion here.

by Robert Bork » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:18 pm
Peter Kenez, Historian wrote:"The Bolsheviks...thought of propaganda as part of education.""
Silly Shofercia wrote: Soviet Education teaches people to not make claims that they cannot back up.

by Geilinor » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:18 pm

by YoriZ » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:20 pm
Rio Cana wrote:Herargon wrote:
Be strong, our southern Flemish/Wallon/Ardenne-German friend! (Sincerely meant)
Stay safe.
According to the news, this attack seems more aimed at the EU. since the Metro attack was supposedly close to EU. headquarters. Also, the Belgium capital in general also represents the EU. Capital. Now to see what the EU. does or does not do. This could spell the full or partial collapse of the EU. depending how they respond or do not respond.

by Gauthier » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:20 pm

by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:21 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Extremism of any religion is the largest form of terrorism. The religion is irrelevant.
But there not true Muslims because other muslims hate them. They do not represent all 1 billion Muslims.
Yeah, and the Catholics sacked Constantinople, does that mean that they can't ever be called Christians? Are the Shia and Sunni both not real Muslims?
Robert Bork wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
I love it when people think multiculturalism causes terrorism.
It's a pretty simple chain.
In many societies, it's increasingly difficult to speak honestly about the problems brought by the Islamic religion and some immigrants from traditionally Islamic countries. Geert Wilders was completely right when he spoke about disproportionate crimes committed by Moroccans. Just for that, he gets put on trial for inciting hatred. If we can't have an honest dialogue about the effects of Islam and immigration, then well, duh...we're not going to be able to devise a serious solution. And without that, the root cause of Islamic terrorism will never be looked at.

by Liriena » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:22 pm
American Imperial State wrote:We need to stop the savages from migrating to European lands.We need a strong leader to take charge and not give a shit what the public opinion or perception is. Or what the liberals think.
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by Gauthier » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:22 pm
American Imperial State wrote:We need to stop the savages from migrating to European lands.We need a strong leader to take charge and not give a shit what the public opinion or perception is. Or what the liberals think.

by Mugrul » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:24 pm
Robert Bork wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
I love it when people think multiculturalism causes terrorism.
It's a pretty simple chain.
In many societies, it's increasingly difficult to speak honestly about the problems brought by the Islamic religion and some immigrants from traditionally Islamic countries. Geert Wilders was completely right when he spoke about disproportionate crimes committed by Moroccans. Just for that, he gets put on trial for inciting hatred. If we can't have an honest dialogue about the effects of Islam and immigration, then well, duh...we're not going to be able to devise a serious solution. And without that, the root cause of Islamic terrorism will never be looked at.

by Robert Bork » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:24 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:[See there's this thing called 'hate speech' and if you discriminate against Muslims in policing then thats a pointless waste of time for police.
Peter Kenez, Historian wrote:"The Bolsheviks...thought of propaganda as part of education.""
Silly Shofercia wrote: Soviet Education teaches people to not make claims that they cannot back up.

by Allet Klar Chefs » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:25 pm
American Imperial State wrote:We need to stop the savages from migrating to European lands.We need a strong leader to take charge and not give a shit what the public opinion or perception is. Or what the liberals think.

by The Alma Mater » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:25 pm
Geilinor wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
NItpick: fighting crime. Wilders speech was about the disproportionate amount of Morrocan youths involved with (organised) violent crime in the Netherlands,
He was blaming it on Moroccans in general. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30532882 He also called them "scum".

by Robert Bork » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:26 pm
Mugrul wrote:Robert Bork wrote:
It's a pretty simple chain.
In many societies, it's increasingly difficult to speak honestly about the problems brought by the Islamic religion and some immigrants from traditionally Islamic countries. Geert Wilders was completely right when he spoke about disproportionate crimes committed by Moroccans. Just for that, he gets put on trial for inciting hatred. If we can't have an honest dialogue about the effects of Islam and immigration, then well, duh...we're not going to be able to devise a serious solution. And without that, the root cause of Islamic terrorism will never be looked at.
At this point it's clear that Geert Wilders is a troll and demagogue.
Peter Kenez, Historian wrote:"The Bolsheviks...thought of propaganda as part of education.""
Silly Shofercia wrote: Soviet Education teaches people to not make claims that they cannot back up.

by United Marxist Nations » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:26 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:Yeah, and the Catholics sacked Constantinople, does that mean that they can't ever be called Christians? Are the Shia and Sunni both not real Muslims?
But not all Shia and Sunni are terrorists and the catholics who did we don't show as the catholics who represent all of Christianity.
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by Robert Bork » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:26 pm
Peter Kenez, Historian wrote:"The Bolsheviks...thought of propaganda as part of education.""
Silly Shofercia wrote: Soviet Education teaches people to not make claims that they cannot back up.

by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:29 pm

by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:30 pm

by Robert Bork » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:30 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Robert Bork wrote:
He didn't call for the police to start discriminating.
Geert Wildwers: Moroccans cause crime!
Police: Ok.
Moroccan: Why did you pull me over?
Police: Because Geert Wildwers told us you cause crime.
Moroccan: But I didn't do anything!
See how this could happen?
Peter Kenez, Historian wrote:"The Bolsheviks...thought of propaganda as part of education.""
Silly Shofercia wrote: Soviet Education teaches people to not make claims that they cannot back up.

by Gauthier » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:32 pm

by United Marxist Nations » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:33 pm
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.

by Robert Bork » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:33 pm
Peter Kenez, Historian wrote:"The Bolsheviks...thought of propaganda as part of education.""
Silly Shofercia wrote: Soviet Education teaches people to not make claims that they cannot back up.

by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:34 pm
Robert Bork wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Geert Wildwers: Moroccans cause crime!
Police: Ok.
Moroccan: Why did you pull me over?
Police: Because Geert Wildwers told us you cause crime.
Moroccan: But I didn't do anything!
See how this could happen?
We need to distinguish two different ideas here.
1) Geert Wilders called for police discrimination.
2) Geert Wilder's actions might indirectly lead to police discrimination.
In the post I responded to, you went for 1, and now you're trying to switch it to 2.
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
See there's this thing called 'hate speech' and if you discriminate against Muslims in policing then thats a pointless waste of time for police.
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