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Postby Shaggy Dog Story » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:45 am

Vassenor wrote:
IndependentGreenland wrote: How the fuck am I being a recruiter for terrorism? I fuckin hate ISIS and Islam in general.


Where do you think this rhetoric about how the West is out to destroy Islam and ISIS is the only place that Muslims can be safe comes from?

Mmhmm. Take a group who claims that the world is out to get them and the only way to be safe is to ascribe to their "kill or be killed" ideology and then validate the very bias they claim to exist and you suddenly have a very popular group.

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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:45 am

Loyal Fascists wrote:
IndependentGreenland wrote:
-Most deserts (especially where ISIS is), is inhospitable or very sparse

- but Nazism isn't encouraged in the Bible were as killing Infidels and stoning women who commit adultery IS encouraged in the Quran

- Mexico is a backwater anyway!

America was a backwater too, but did it stay that way? No. Just because a country is poor and not very powerful doesn't mean it will stay that way.


Okay, buddy, you don't need to puppetwank. Just post openly about your beliefs with your main nation.



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Postby Loyal Fascists » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:45 am

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By hating them like this, you're driving new recruits to Isis.

And that's why I said we should nuke the fucks!

Nuking ISIS would have in unavoidable consequences with the local population and the international community.

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Postby Pimps Inc » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:45 am

Loyal Fascists wrote:
IndependentGreenland wrote:
-Most deserts (especially where ISIS is), is inhospitable or very sparse

- but Nazism isn't encouraged in the Bible were as killing Infidels and stoning women who commit adultery IS encouraged in the Quran

- Mexico is a backwater anyway!

America was a backwater too, but did it stay that way? No. Just because a country is poor and not very powerful doesn't mean it will stay that way.

Last I checked, Trump was going off about all those American companies leaving the U.S. And moving to "backwater" Mexico.....
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No way.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:46 am

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ConquerTheWorld wrote:Fuck Muslims. They molest children and suck Muhammad's tiny penis. They should be exterminated like the Jews.

Agreed to a certain extent!

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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:46 am

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Which is the last thing we want to come from this. Answer a humanitarian crisis by causing another humanitarian crisis, and it'll just set the world up in flames.

While I have ideological differences with many who claim as you have to be pro life it is refreshing to see someone actually willing to act in a way deserving of the phrase. While I believe in the right to choose it is nice to see ideological consistency on the pro life stance include ALL human life.


Thanks. I try. I mean, I want all people to be able to live as they should be allowed to live. I'm just as furious about ISIS as anyone, but I hardly have any of the answers. All I know is that there are millions of people in those countries who are suffering, and building a wall and sending them all back is going to cause even more trouble. At the same time, we have to find a way to keep terrorists from, like you said, abusing the system. I'm not sure how to keep that from happening. We might have to rebuild entire nations in the Middle East to solve the problem, like that Belgium article someone posted said we need to do with Belgium (rebuild the nation from the bottom up), but it's such a huge socio-political tangle, and I don't claim to know how to clip all those tangles. So I just pray. :(
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:46 am

Preussenstan wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Guardian is reporting that raids are now ongoing in the Brussels suburb of Schaerbeek.

This racist which hunt should be stopped by the Belgian government.


...If they're targeting people with provable links to the attacks, how is that racism?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:46 am

IndependentGreenland wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
By hating them like this, you're driving new recruits to Isis.

And that's why I said we should nuke the fucks!


Oh screw this.

You're going to geeeet warned/banned on for wanting to kill people anyway.

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Postby Loyal Fascists » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:46 am

Ganos Lao wrote:
Loyal Fascists wrote:America was a backwater too, but did it stay that way? No. Just because a country is poor and not very powerful doesn't mean it will stay that way.


Okay, buddy, you don't need to puppetwank. Just post openly about your beliefs with your main nation.

This is my main nation... I just haven't been active in a while.

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Postby Unified Governments » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:46 am

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Napkiraly wrote:Guardian is reporting that raids are now ongoing in the Brussels suburb of Schaerbeek.

This racist which hunt should be stopped by the Belgian government.

Witch hunts? They were attacked by Islamic extremists. People died.
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:48 am

Preussenstan wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Guardian is reporting that raids are now ongoing in the Brussels suburb of Schaerbeek.

This racist which hunt should be stopped by the Belgian government.

What? :eyebrow:

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Postby Illyiah » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:49 am

This whole event makes me concerned that London may be next :unsure:

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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:49 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Preussenstan wrote:This racist which hunt should be stopped by the Belgian government.

What? :eyebrow:


I get the suspicion this thread is being hit by puppets, etc.



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Postby Preussenstan » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:49 am

Vassenor wrote:
Preussenstan wrote:This racist which hunt should be stopped by the Belgian government.


...If they're targeting people with provable links to the attacks, how is that racism?

Probably targeting brown people, while whites are just not suspicious. They do not look like Muslims.

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Postby Pimps Inc » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:50 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Preussenstan wrote:This racist which hunt should be stopped by the Belgian government.

What? :eyebrow:

It's not like the Belgian government needs to find the perpetrators or anything. :roll:
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United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

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Postby Cumberlanda » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:50 am

This thread has become a pile of steaming dog shit, trolls and threadjackers buzzing around it.

Let's go back to the real enemy, ISIS. Not Muslims, not Hispanics.Just ISIS.

Preussenstan wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Guardian is reporting that raids are now ongoing in the Brussels suburb of Schaerbeek.

This racist which hunt should be stopped by the Belgian government.


Trying to solve a threat to national security is not racist. It would be racist if a lot of very angry citizens ran into the suburb like it was Kristallnacht. Or Birmingham, Alabama. That was racist. This is by no means racist.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:50 am

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And you can't make anything good in desert. at all. No one has made anything cool in any desert ever.

So? Christianity was indirectly responsible for nazism, should we deport all christians?

Yeah! You blow 3 billion on tax dollars because Mexco won't pay for your wall!


Christianity was indirectly responsible for Nazism? We've done a lot of shit but that wasn't our fault.

The Crusades would have been a better example. That was a mess.


Yeah It was a mess.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:50 am

Preussenstan wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
...If they're targeting people with provable links to the attacks, how is that racism?

Probably targeting brown people, while whites are just not suspicious. They do not look like Muslims.


Right, and not because they have actual links to the bombers at all. Totally just because of their skin tone.
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Postby Viking Confederacy » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:51 am

Preussenstan wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Guardian is reporting that raids are now ongoing in the Brussels suburb of Schaerbeek.

This racist which hunt should be stopped by the Belgian government.


Radical Islam is not a race.

And even if it was, it is not "racist" to perform targeted raids on people with ties to terrorist attacks.

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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:51 am

Cumberlanda wrote:This thread has become a pile of steaming dog shit, trolls and threadjackers buzzing around it.

Let's go back to the real enemy, ISIS. Not Muslims, not Hispanics.Just ISIS.

Preussenstan wrote:This racist which hunt should be stopped by the Belgian government.


Trying to solve a threat to national security is not racist. It would be racist if a lot of very angry citizens ran into the suburb like it was Kristallnacht. Or Birmingham, Alabama. That was racist. This is by no means racist.


Well they are muslims so...
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Postby Pimps Inc » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:52 am

Preussenstan wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
...If they're targeting people with provable links to the attacks, how is that racism?

Probably targeting brown people, while whites are just not suspicious. They do not look like Muslims.

You know they have surveillance videos from the airport, right? So they know the faces of the suspects.
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United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby Loyal Fascists » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:52 am

I'm honestly surprise ISIS could pull off this attack with how rightfully paranoid Belgium has been.

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Postby Cumberlanda » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:52 am

North Calaveras wrote:
Cumberlanda wrote:This thread has become a pile of steaming dog shit, trolls and threadjackers buzzing around it.

Let's go back to the real enemy, ISIS. Not Muslims, not Hispanics.Just ISIS.



Trying to solve a threat to national security is not racist. It would be racist if a lot of very angry citizens ran into the suburb like it was Kristallnacht. Or Birmingham, Alabama. That was racist. This is by no means racist.


Well they are muslims so...


Not Muslims in general. You know what I meant.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:52 am

North Calaveras wrote:
Cumberlanda wrote:This thread has become a pile of steaming dog shit, trolls and threadjackers buzzing around it.

Let's go back to the real enemy, ISIS. Not Muslims, not Hispanics.Just ISIS.



Trying to solve a threat to national security is not racist. It would be racist if a lot of very angry citizens ran into the suburb like it was Kristallnacht. Or Birmingham, Alabama. That was racist. This is by no means racist.


Well they are muslims so...


That does not make Muslims the enemy. It makes ISIS the enemy.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:52 am

Vistulange wrote:This is what I mean by irredentism. You gladly disregard modern international law and the theories of international relations, as though the people who have thought of them and implemented were and are idiots, and think that you are right in your ignorance. Truly, ignorance is bliss.


Some international laws such as the ones banning chemical warfare are quite sound and what I'd call sensible. But other portions of it such as the ones applying to refugees, I'd call incredibly foolish and I do not recommend that any nation with its national self interests at heart follow these provisions. Nations should and can assert a right to deny people they do not want from coming in. The UN has no standing army and even if it did, it wouldn't be able to continuously fight wars year after year with nations that do not follow all of their demands to the letter.

Might does indeed make right, but this is now tempered by global interdependence, the fact that aggressive war is no longer condoned or encouraged as a matter of course. If a war breaks out, there now has to be a valid casus belli between the two sides involved. It is then, that one side could lose territory, it just isn't very likely as opposed to in the old days, unless the land has a population that will defect or is valuable. Russia's annexation of Crimea went relatively smoothly. It proves that land changing hands can still go on.
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