GOP Primary Megathread III: Third Time's A Charm

[Frank Zipper]

Did this story from the Economist Intelligence Unit, on Trump becoming President being a major threat to world stability, make it across to the US?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35828747

[Zeanobia]

Since I'm not American, I couldn't care less about the outcome for USA. You vote, you take the consequences.

What I do care about is the free Internet and Trump is against the TPP. So to avoid a new SOPA while I sit comfortable in my couch, you should vote on Donald Trump.

[Myrensis]

As an aside to the debate that just happened, I feel that I should point out that in Britain it's still a mystery to a lot of us as to why people in the US put up with the appalling poverty and think it's justifiable.

Because Free Market!+Protestant Work Ethic+Just World Hypothesis.

The free market means nobody is guaranteed success, but everyone can and should pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and God is watching and rewards hard work and goodness and punishes laziness and sin, hence the wealthy must be good hard working people while the poor obviously brought it on themselves with their sloth and iniquity.

[USS Monitor]

Did this story from the Economist Intelligence Unit, on Trump becoming President being a major threat to world stability, make it across to the US?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35828747

I saw something about that.

[G-Tech Corporation]

As an aside to the debate that just happened, I feel that I should point out that in Britain it's still a mystery to a lot of us as to why people in the US put up with the appalling poverty and think it's justifiable.

Because Free Market!+Protestant Work Ethic+Just World Hypothesis.

The free market means not everyone can succeed, everyone can and should pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and God is watching and rewards hard work and goodness and punishes laziness and sin, hence the wealthy must be good hard working people while the poor obviously brought it on themselves with their sloth and iniquity.

Also, to a certain extent, capitalism is built on the backs of the poor. We just get to forget that in the West, since our capitalism was built a few hundred years ago.

Any system has poor. Britain and European countries just do a better job masking their existence than most of the U.S., in some cases because they're simply smaller than the U.S. Or what did you think chavs are?

[Khadgar]

As an aside to the debate that just happened, I feel that I should point out that in Britain it's still a mystery to a lot of us as to why people in the US put up with the appalling poverty and think it's justifiable.

Because it's a complex issue and we demand simplistic solutions you could make a four year old understand. Thus we're going to ignore it until those filthy poor people go away.

[Ashmoria]

He tells it like it is.

Except he doesn't. When he's not lying, he's speaking pure, unadulterated nonsense. Have you actually listened to the responses he gives to questions in interviews and debates? Or checked Politifact's rating of his sayings?

and when he DOES tell the truth its horrifying. he said he is his own foreign policy advisor...what could possibly go wrong?

[Khadgar]

Except he doesn't. When he's not lying, he's speaking pure, unadulterated nonsense. Have you actually listened to the responses he gives to questions in interviews and debates? Or checked Politifact's rating of his sayings?

and when he DOES tell the truth its horrifying. he said he is his own foreign policy advisor...what could possibly go wrong?

Here's a kind of horrifying question. Does Donald believe the shit he's saying? If he's pandering that's understandable. If he really believes what stream of consciousness nonsense he says he's living in an alternate reality.

[Ashmoria]

Politico: How Kasich's religion is hurting him with conservatives.

"Over the years, he [Kasich] has spoken enough about his faith and quoted Scripture often enough, that it is possible to tie many of his political decisions to tenets of his faith—especially the ones that deviate from GOP orthodoxy."

This is one of my favorite articles that I've read this political cycle. As much as the GOP would love to believe that the Bible is the official book of the Republican Party, Kasich shows that the book they love to tout so much is actually, in some ways, directly at odds with the foundation of their platform. Dear Holier-Than-Thou Republicans: John Kasich is holier than thou.

they really don't like that he took the Medicaid expansion because that's what a good Christian would do. they prefer the jesus who hates the poor.

[Ashmoria]

and when he DOES tell the truth its horrifying. he said he is his own foreign policy advisor...what could possibly go wrong?

Here's a kind of horrifying question. Does Donald believe the shit he's saying? If he's pandering that's understandable. If he really believes what stream of consciousness nonsense he says he's living in an alternate reality.

there is no way to know but I have decided to believe politicians who say terrible things. no more benefit of the doubt that wasn't even asked for.

did you see the maddow discussion of ted cruz's foreign policy advisors last night? utterly disqualifying. who knew you could have a worse stable of advisors than jeb!'s group of neocons?

[Khadgar]

Here's a kind of horrifying question. Does Donald believe the shit he's saying? If he's pandering that's understandable. If he really believes what stream of consciousness nonsense he says he's living in an alternate reality.

there is no way to know but I have decided to believe politicians who say terrible things. no more benefit of the doubt that wasn't even asked for.

did you see the maddow discussion of ted cruz's foreign policy advisors last night? utterly disqualifying. who knew you could have a worse stable of advisors than jeb!'s group of neocons?

I did see where he'd picked up a rabidly anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist as an advisor.

[Ashmoria]

there is no way to know but I have decided to believe politicians who say terrible things. no more benefit of the doubt that wasn't even asked for.

did you see the maddow discussion of ted cruz's foreign policy advisors last night? utterly disqualifying. who knew you could have a worse stable of advisors than jeb!'s group of neocons?

I did see where he'd picked up a rabidly anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist as an advisor.

just the kind of advisor the most powerful man in the world needs.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/ ... -advisers/

[Khadgar]

I did see where he'd picked up a rabidly anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist as an advisor.

just the kind of advisor the most powerful man in the world needs.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/ ... -advisers/

I only knew about Gaffney, I see the rabbit hole of crazy runs deep.

[Ashmoria]

just the kind of advisor the most powerful man in the world needs.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/ ... -advisers/

I only knew about Gaffney, I see the rabbit hole of crazy runs deep.

ted did go to that meeting of the crazy minister who said that if his kid got gay married he would sit outside the church and cover himself with dogshit. that the bible says gay people should be killed and he is OK with that. ted didn't distance himself.

its just so weird that a republican could win the whitehouse when they are all so odious.

[Philjia]

I only knew about Gaffney, I see the rabbit hole of crazy runs deep.

ted did go to that meeting of the crazy minister who said that if his kid got gay married he would sit outside the church and cover himself with dogshit. that the bible says gay people should be killed and he is OK with that. ted didn't distance himself.

its just so weird that a republican could win the whitehouse when they are all so odious.

The GOP thought they were uniting people under the banner of "Tradition, Unity, and the American Dream!", when it was in fact "Guns, God, and Rampant Xenophobia!" and they didn't notice until it was too late.

[Liriena]

I only knew about Gaffney, I see the rabbit hole of crazy runs deep.

ted did go to that meeting of the crazy minister who said that if his kid got gay married he would sit outside the church and cover himself with dogshit. that the bible says gay people should be killed and he is OK with that. ted didn't distance himself.

its just so weird that a republican could win the whitehouse when they are all so odious.

Yup.

[Liriena]

ted did go to that meeting of the crazy minister who said that if his kid got gay married he would sit outside the church and cover himself with dogshit. that the bible says gay people should be killed and he is OK with that. ted didn't distance himself.

its just so weird that a republican could win the whitehouse when they are all so odious.

The GOP thought they were uniting people under the banner of "Tradition, Unity, and the American Dream!", when it was in fact "Guns, God, and Rampant Xenophobia!" and they didn't notice until it was too late.

I think they did notice, but underestimated their voters' willingness to go for an atypical candidate who pandered to these beliefs directly. They probably figured, after the 2012 election, with all its fringe candidates who went nowhere, that a candidate along the lines of Jeb! would remain a safe bet for the forseable future.

[The Black Forrest]

As an aside to the debate that just happened, I feel that I should point out that in Britain it's still a mystery to a lot of us as to why people in the US put up with the appalling poverty and think it's justifiable.

Because Free Market!+Protestant Work Ethic+Just World Hypothesis.

The free market means nobody is guaranteed success, but everyone can and should pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and God is watching and rewards hard work and goodness and punishes laziness and sin, hence the wealthy must be good hard working people while the poor obviously brought it on themselves with their sloth and iniquity.

Anybody got an email address or phone number to God? I know a few directors and VPs he seems to have missed.

[Seangoli]

Here's a kind of horrifying question. Does Donald believe the shit he's saying? If he's pandering that's understandable. If he really believes what stream of consciousness nonsense he says he's living in an alternate reality.

there is no way to know but I have decided to believe politicians who say terrible things. no more benefit of the doubt that wasn't even asked for.

did you see the maddow discussion of ted cruz's foreign policy advisors last night? utterly disqualifying. who knew you could have a worse stable of advisors than jeb!'s group of neocons?

What's somewhat disconcerting is that I would vastly prefer the Neo-Cons to the new order of conservatives. At least I can understand the basis for their policies and what their ideology is about, as much as I disagree with them. Equally, they are at the very least a pragmatic bunch, and didn't do things for the sole reason that they could, regardless of consequence.

That's the horrifying part, to be honest. It has gotten to the point where the Neo-Cons are preferable to the current lot. That's not a good thing.

[Trumpostan]

Politico: How Kasich's religion is hurting him with conservatives.

"Over the years, he [Kasich] has spoken enough about his faith and quoted Scripture often enough, that it is possible to tie many of his political decisions to tenets of his faith—especially the ones that deviate from GOP orthodoxy."

This is one of my favorite articles that I've read this political cycle. As much as the GOP would love to believe that the Bible is the official book of the Republican Party, Kasich shows that the book they love to tout so much is actually, in some ways, directly at odds with the foundation of their platform. Dear Holier-Than-Thou Republicans: John Kasich is holier than thou.

they really don't like that he took the Medicaid expansion because that's what a good Christian would do. they prefer the jesus who hates the poor.

Yup, the GOP bible doesn't contain the parts about healing the sick or how it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to go to heaven. Or how Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple, which is at odds with how the GOP platform says we should sell the temple to the money changers in the name of the "free market". Or how about how the bible denounces those who pray in public as hypocrites?

The special GOP bible is like the special GOP Constitution, it exists only in the alternate GOP reality.

[Romalae]

First national poll since the Ides of March Primaries and Marco Rubio's demise:

Trump 43 — Cruz 28 — Kasich 21
Rasmussen Reports

[Geilinor]

Many anti-Trump establishment Republicans are giving up.

[Camicon]

First national poll since the Ides of March Primaries and Marco Rubio's demise:

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Trump 43 — Cruz 28 — Kasich 21
Rasmussen Reports

Seems like Kasich picked up all of Rubio's supporters.

[Galloism]

First national poll since the Ides of March Primaries and Marco Rubio's demise:

(Image)
Trump 43 — Cruz 28 — Kasich 21
Rasmussen Reports

Seems like Kasich picked up all of Rubio's supporters.

Looks like trump got a bump as well.

Yet another tragic miscalculation from Rubio.

[Trumpostan]

Sorry Donald, its not just women and latinos who are not into you. Its Americans.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -5493.html

An RCP average of minus 30.