GOP Primary Megathread III: Third Time's A Charm

[Sanctissima]

True, but there is room to maneuver a little bit. He's already doing so, actually, and his rhetoric has been toned down slightly.

That said, you're right that he's already set his overall image. The average person is smarter than he's given credit for, and when he tries to win over moderates by edging to the center, most will remember and refuse to vote for him.

He toned it down and I noticed what you're saying.

Then Chicago happened and he went back up to 11.

Heh, fair enough.

Although I don't think that's necessarily an indication of what's to come. He tested the waters, and decided to go with the ranting xenophobe approach. Maybe he'll decide to stick with that, but I have my doubts.

[Kelinfort]

He toned it down and I noticed what you're saying.

Then Chicago happened and he went back up to 11.

Heh, fair enough.

Although I don't think that's necessarily an indication of what's to come. He tested the waters, and decided to go with the ranting xenophobe approach. Maybe he'll decide to stick with that, but I have my doubts.

But it's too late. He's said some pretty crazy shit and those moments aren't going to go away.

Simply put, the American electorate isn't just the GOP base.

[The Comboverlord]

Heh, fair enough.

Although I don't think that's necessarily an indication of what's to come. He tested the waters, and decided to go with the ranting xenophobe approach. Maybe he'll decide to stick with that, but I have my doubts.

But it's too late. He's said some pretty crazy shit and those moments aren't going to go away.

Simply put, the American electorate isn't just the GOP base.

It isn't crazy. It's common sense and everyone knows it. Everyone loves me. Just look at the polls! How do you think I'm doing so well in the polls? And the elections, I'm crushing in the elections. Marco just dropped out. Guess who did that to him? Me.

[Kelinfort]

But it's too late. He's said some pretty crazy shit and those moments aren't going to go away.

Simply put, the American electorate isn't just the GOP base.

It isn't crazy. It's common sense and everyone knows it. Everyone loves me. Just look at the polls! How do you think I'm doing so well in the polls? And the elections, I'm crushing in the elections. Marco just dropped out. Guess who did that to him? Me.

I will admit, you crushed little Marco into a puddle of tears.

[The Comboverlord]

It isn't crazy. It's common sense and everyone knows it. Everyone loves me. Just look at the polls! How do you think I'm doing so well in the polls? And the elections, I'm crushing in the elections. Marco just dropped out. Guess who did that to him? Me.

I will admit, you crushed little Marco into a puddle of tears.

More like a puddle of sweat.

[Diopolis]

Heh, fair enough.

Although I don't think that's necessarily an indication of what's to come. He tested the waters, and decided to go with the ranting xenophobe approach. Maybe he'll decide to stick with that, but I have my doubts.

But it's too late. He's said some pretty crazy shit and those moments aren't going to go away.

Simply put, the American electorate isn't just the GOP base.

It is fairly reasonable to assume that at least a statistically significant portion of Trump's support comes from non-republicans due to the difference in support between open and closed primaries.

[Pimps Inc]

I will admit, you crushed little Marco into a puddle of tears.

More like a puddle of sweat.

Pfft

[Arlenton]

I wonder what Trump's concession speech will look like...

[MolokoPlus]

I wonder what Trump's concession speech will look like...

"Nasty people, all of 'em, for using the media to portray me as a monster. They're just bad people, bad people for this country. Also, there were reports of rigging from the Cruz campaign. He plays very dirty, as bad as Jeb Bush, nasty guy, very nasty. The road to make America great doesn't end here."

[Genivaria]

Has this been pointed yet?
Because this happened.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... the-voters

"The media has created the perception that the voters will decide the nomination," Curly Haugland said in an interview with CNBC. "That's the conflict here."


"The political parties choose their nominees, not the general public, contrary to popular belief," he added.
Haugland was then asked what the point of holding primaries is if the party can disregard the will of the voters.

"That's a very good question," he responded.

[Neon Trotsky]

But it's too late. He's said some pretty crazy shit and those moments aren't going to go away.

Simply put, the American electorate isn't just the GOP base.

It is fairly reasonable to assume that at least a statistically significant portion of Trump's support comes from non-republicans due to the difference in support between open and closed primaries.

I'm not sure this translates into broader general election support. Thee's a long documented phenomena of most independents leaning towards one party or the other and voting in an identical fashion to those who actively identify with said party.

[Romalae]

So apparently Trump has decided that he is done with the debates. There was one scheduled in Utah next week, and Trump pulled out. Upon hearing this news, Kasich pulled out too so the gig was cancelled.

[G-Tech Corporation]

So apparently Trump has decided that he is done with the debates. There was one scheduled in Utah next week, and Trump pulled out. Upon hearing this news, Kasich pulled out too so the gig was cancelled.

Poor Trump, can't debate his diminishing field of opponents.

[Romalae]

So apparently Trump has decided that he is done with the debates. There was one scheduled in Utah next week, and Trump pulled out. Upon hearing this news, Kasich pulled out too so the gig was cancelled.

Poor Trump, can't debate his diminishing field of opponents.

He said something along the lines of "how many times can the same people ask us the same questions?"

Here's the source, by the way: http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/r ... pulls-out/

[Eol Sha]

Poor Trump, can't debate his diminishing field of opponents.

He said something along the lines of "how many times can the same people ask us the same questions?"

Here's the source, by the way: http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/r ... pulls-out/

That's a good question. Maybe if the media actually did their jobs correctly, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in right now.

[Kelinfort]

But it's too late. He's said some pretty crazy shit and those moments aren't going to go away.

Simply put, the American electorate isn't just the GOP base.

It is fairly reasonable to assume that at least a statistically significant portion of Trump's support comes from non-republicans due to the difference in support between open and closed primaries.

Most likely a significant number of registered Democrats who vote Republican 90% of the time.

[Geilinor]

Really, Donald?

[Kelinfort]

Really, Donald?

He hasn't called her a bitch yet, but it's coming.

[Blakk Metal]

I've been reading up on brokered conventions, and it seems that there simply will not be one unless it comes down to an extremely close tie between Cruz and Trump. (Double digits delegate numbers between them with neither securing the nomination might see Cruz edge it out.)

The establishment politicians will play the long game here;

Trump runs 2016, wins, good job, republicans win the whitehouse.
Trump runs 2016, loses, "See? Now will you listen to the "moderates?" " 4 years isn't that long in a political career, and they've got a good shot in 2020. They'll have quashed rebellion against the conservative establishment.

Both outcomes have upsides and downsides for the establishment. Conversely:

Trump is denied the nomination. Trumps supporters flip out. The republican parties legitimacy is sorely damaged. It definitely loses the race either due to a third party run from Trump, Trump voters defecting to a third party, or sitting out the election. This damage will pit figures in the republican party against eachother and cause a massive rift that will not merely be a 4 year stumble, but potentially the downfall of the party as a national force for a few elections, or even permanently if we see major realignments.

In the event of a close call, Cruz has already indicated he is willing to support Trumps run. Trump has made no such indication.

I'm just about ready to call it.

Unless Rubios voters defect to Cruz and he wins states from hereon out to outright secure a nomination or deny Trump the plurality, Trump has won this election.

If Rubios voters find themselves unwilling to vote for a Theocrat and sit it out, Trump has won.

If Rubios voters split between Cruz/Trump, Trump has won.

Don't assume the GOP is as smart as you. The GOP establishment is a bunch of morons who firmly believe that their voters are a bunch of morons who can be fooled by nice sounding bullshit.

[Romalae]

He said something along the lines of "how many times can the same people ask us the same questions?"

Here's the source, by the way: http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/r ... pulls-out/

That's a good question. Maybe if the media actually did their jobs correctly, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in right now.

"Mr. Trump, you've used some naughty language. Will you promise us you will never ever do that again?"

[Eol Sha]

Really, Donald?

Outrage, outrage, yeah, yeah, but, to be fair, Clinton's the one who decided to bark on live tv.

[Senkaku]

Really, Donald?

Outrage, outrage, yeah, yeah, but, to be fair, Clinton's the one who decided to bark on live tv.

Isn't it the GOP that usually loves to squeal about taking things out of context?

Really, Donald?

He hasn't called her a bitch yet, but it's coming.

Donald Trump: keeping it classy since his hair landed on Earth 4,000 years ago and began maneuvering itself into position for world domination and the eventual xenoformation of Earth's biosphere for its species.

[Gauthier]

Outrage, outrage, yeah, yeah, but, to be fair, Clinton's the one who decided to bark on live tv.

Isn't it the GOP that usually loves to squeal about taking things out of context?

He hasn't called her a bitch yet, but it's coming.

Donald Trump: keeping it classy since his hair landed on Earth 4,000 years ago and began maneuvering itself into position for world domination and the eventual xenoformation of Earth's biosphere for its species.

The Earth will look like Trump's head if they get their way.

[Eol Sha]

Outrage, outrage, yeah, yeah, but, to be fair, Clinton's the one who decided to bark on live tv.

Isn't it the GOP that usually loves to squeal about taking things out of context?

All politicians do that. Hell, Clinton did it in one of the recent debates. Sanders, too.

[The Black Forrest]

I wonder what Trump's concession speech will look like...

I still have more money then most of you bitches!