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by Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 04, 2016 2:00 pm
Spiffier wrote:New Jerzylvania wrote:
We're talking electability. It's the best "Trump" card HRC holds. And BTW, fuck his insane policies. Reagan said "tear down that wall," not build another one.
Are you suggesting any other of the Republican contenders would stand the faintest chance against Clinton? Trump is a big gamble, but it is better a big gamble than a sure lose.
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by Spiffier » Wed May 04, 2016 2:01 pm
Valaran wrote:Spiffier wrote:He's immature (which in a way is good, he can never be destroyed by digging up something offensive he said, or something personal scandal), but I'm talking about policy.
If he is that immature why should we trust his policies?
Policies which he's been extraordinarily vague and flip-floppy on, not to mention incredibly insulting and uncomprehending (the immaturity carries over) in many cases. Oh, aside from the wall, encouraging nuclear proliferation, pissing off allies, threatening a trade war with China, and having a truly horrific tax plan. Yay?
by Czervenika » Wed May 04, 2016 2:01 pm
by New Jerzylvania » Wed May 04, 2016 2:02 pm
by Spiffier » Wed May 04, 2016 2:06 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Spiffier wrote:I'd rather his rampant personality defects than have a President who panders to big oil, the military industrial complex, and globalists. That is far, far more serious sin.
I never thought Christians' support of globalism was a sin.
If anything, we're the most pro-globalism out there.
by Spiffier » Wed May 04, 2016 2:08 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Spiffier wrote:Are you suggesting any other of the Republican contenders would stand the faintest chance against Clinton? Trump is a big gamble, but it is better a big gamble than a sure lose.
Trump is like gambling on flip a coin in regards of policy.
So, if all you care is winning, and fuck policy, then sure, I suppose we can say that.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 04, 2016 2:09 pm
Spiffier wrote:Valaran wrote:
If he is that immature why should we trust his policies?
Policies which he's been extraordinarily vague and flip-floppy on, not to mention incredibly insulting and uncomprehending (the immaturity carries over) in many cases. Oh, aside from the wall, encouraging nuclear proliferation, pissing off allies, threatening a trade war with China, and having a truly horrific tax plan. Yay?
1. Can you explain why we shouldn't have a wall when the drug trafficking from Mexico is epidemic?
2. Could you explain why we should let Israel have nuclear weapons, but not our much less controversial allies?
3, Can you explain why we should have allies who get pissed about us saying America first?
4, Can you explain why we shouldn't take steps to fix our situation with China when our jobs and money are going over their en masse and we're getting nothing but consumerist society in return?
5. Can you explain what's wrong with his tax plan?
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by Conserative Morality » Wed May 04, 2016 2:09 pm
Spiffier wrote:Can you explain why we shouldn't have a wall when the drug trafficking from Mexico is epidemic?
Could you explain why we should let Israel have nuclear weapons, but not our much less controversial allies?
Can you explain why we should have allies who get pissed about us saying America first?
Can you explain why we shouldn't take steps to fix our situation with China when our jobs and money are going over their en masse and we're getting nothing but consumerist society in return?
Can you explain what's wrong with his tax plan?
by Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 04, 2016 2:09 pm
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by Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 04, 2016 2:10 pm
Corrian wrote:Seems Google searches for Gary Johnson skyrocketed last night.
by Conserative Morality » Wed May 04, 2016 2:11 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:What's wrong with the TPP? And George Soros? The fuck?
by Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 04, 2016 2:12 pm
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by Novus America » Wed May 04, 2016 2:14 pm
by Sylvaniaa » Wed May 04, 2016 2:14 pm
by Idzequitch » Wed May 04, 2016 2:15 pm
by Dragonia Re Xzua » Wed May 04, 2016 2:17 pm
Trump has won the primaries
Pantuxia wrote:Could this be the end of American democracy?
Czervenika wrote:The apocalypse is upon us, and America has caused it. Thanks, US presidental candidates...
The Romulan Republic wrote:Risottia wrote:Actually he's great. The Democrats could have lost the elections if it hadn't been for him.
I have seen so many people saying things like this, and it deeply disturbs me.
Their seems to be a wide spread assumption that the Democrats can't possibly lose. But people have been acting like Donald couldn't possibly win ever since he started running, and he's now the Republican nominee. This attitude on the Left that he can't win is dangerous complacency and overconfidence.
The worst possible thing we could do is assume we've won and half-ass this election.
And frankly, acting like his nomination is a good thing because he can't beat the Democrats would be very wrong even if the underlying assumption were true. Even if he loses, his being the nominee will further legitimize bigotry and political violence as part of the mainstream of American politics, and make America look even more foolish and dangerous in the eyes of the rest of the world.
by Novus America » Wed May 04, 2016 2:17 pm
by Idzequitch » Wed May 04, 2016 2:17 pm
Sylvaniaa wrote:The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President
Trump believes in American exceptionalism.
Trump is tough, unafraid to flex America’s muscles, and has the backbone America needs to take on the evil growing around the world.
Trump is an experienced and tough dealmaker.
Trump is not politically correct; he’s not afraid to say what he believes and has ignited an honest debate.
Trump demands high performance and will fire anyone that doesn’t meet his high standards.
Trump is committed to education.
Trump “built that business” and many more and will run America like a business.
Trump will not balance his job as President with golf and other social events.
Trump’s loyalty will be only to America and Americans—not any political party, special interest group or foreign entity.
Trump will support American laws, the Constitution, and the nation’s borders.
by Greed and Death » Wed May 04, 2016 2:17 pm
by Novus America » Wed May 04, 2016 2:18 pm
Sylvaniaa wrote:The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President
Trump believes in American exceptionalism.
Trump is tough, unafraid to flex America’s muscles, and has the backbone America needs to take on the evil growing around the world.
Trump is an experienced and tough dealmaker.
Trump is not politically correct; he’s not afraid to say what he believes and has ignited an honest debate.
Trump demands high performance and will fire anyone that doesn’t meet his high standards.
Trump is committed to education.
Trump “built that business” and many more and will run America like a business.
Trump will not balance his job as President with golf and other social events.
Trump’s loyalty will be only to America and Americans—not any political party, special interest group or foreign entity.
Trump will support American laws, the Constitution, and the nation’s borders.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 04, 2016 2:19 pm
Sylvaniaa wrote:The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President
Trump believes in American exceptionalism.
Trump is tough, unafraid to flex America’s muscles, and has the backbone America needs to take on the evil growing around the world.
Trump is an experienced and tough dealmaker.
Trump is not politically correct; he’s not afraid to say what he believes and has ignited an honest debate.
Trump demands high performance and will fire anyone that doesn’t meet his high standards.
Trump is committed to education.
Trump “built that business” and many more and will run America like a business.
Trump will not balance his job as President with golf and other social events.
Trump’s loyalty will be only to America and Americans—not any political party, special interest group or foreign entity.
Trump will support American laws, the Constitution, and the nation’s borders.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Valaran » Wed May 04, 2016 2:19 pm
Spiffier wrote:Valaran wrote:
If he is that immature why should we trust his policies?
Policies which he's been extraordinarily vague and flip-floppy on, not to mention incredibly insulting and uncomprehending (the immaturity carries over) in many cases. Oh, aside from the wall, encouraging nuclear proliferation, pissing off allies, threatening a trade war with China, and having a truly horrific tax plan. Yay?
Can you explain why we shouldn't have a wall when the drug trafficking from Mexico is epidemic?
Could you explain why we should let Israel have nuclear weapons, but not our much less controversial allies?
Can you explain why we should have allies who get pissed about us saying America first?
Can you explain why we shouldn't take steps to fix our situation with China when our jobs and money are going over their en masse and we're getting nothing but consumerist society in return?
Can you explain what's wrong with his tax plan?
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 04, 2016 2:20 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Novus America » Wed May 04, 2016 2:20 pm
Spiffier wrote:Idzequitch wrote:Pardon my language, but fuck his policy (If he even has any, that is). If he's displaying behaviors that I would be grounding my children for, I'm sure as hell not going to vote for the man. He's completely unfit for the job.
I'd rather his rampant personality defects than have a President who panders to big oil, the military industrial complex, and globalists. That is far, far more serious sin.
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