GOP Primary Megathread III: Third Time's A Charm

[Eol Sha]

Last July, I posted this:

Dear God: I will never ask for anything ever again if you do this one thing for me. I vow to start going to Mass three times a week, abstain from meat on Fridays, give up chocolate and caffeine not only for next Lent, but permanently; and say 10 rosaries every day for the rest of my life if you'll please, please let Donald Trump be the Republican nominee.

I'm not sure why God has decided to take me up on this. I figure either he really wanted me to return to the faith, he hates me and wanted to punish me, or he wanted to punish me by making the rest of the country hate me. Whichever way, I'm sorry America.

Or you just made a silly, nonsense promise and God doesn't give a damn what you do and doesn't throw elections because of said promise. Just a suggestion.

[Novus America]

Rasmussen is in the extreme minority in saying such a thing though. All the other major polls have Hillary ahead.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -5491.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... html#polls

They fucked up with Romney as well.

Look, when it comes down to it, I think the margin between Hillary and Trump won't be the 15 points many pundits expect, I think it'll be more like 3-6%. I can see Hillary taking Florida, Virginia, NC, Colorado, NM, and PA, while Trump might be competitive in Ohio.

That's just me , though, things can change.

True. We will see. I think Trump will do surprisingly well in the rust belt. People there are simply pissed. And pissed people vote Trump. The country overall is pissed at the government, pissed at the establishment.

Angry might win.

[Galloism]

Last July, I posted this:



I'm not sure why God has decided to take me up on this. I figure either he really wanted me to return to the faith, he hates me and wanted to punish me, or he wanted to punish me by making the rest of the country hate me. Whichever way, I'm sorry America.

Or you just made a silly, nonsense promise and God doesn't give a damn what you do and doesn't throw elections because of said promise. Just a suggestion.

Dunno, I sometimes do things that I find humorous.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You have to remember a lot of Bernie's supporters are independents, not Democrats. A great many of them don't have any party loyalty.

Those kind of people tend to stay home or vote Green, not Libertarian.

Which is why we work to show them why they should vote Libertarian, not Green.

You have to remember a lot of Bernie's supporters are independents, not Democrats. A great many of them don't have any party loyalty.

What part of Bernie's platform is appealing to someone who would vote Libertarian?

I rely more so on appealing to how much those people tend to dislike the two party system and how the LP has the best chance at being the wrench to be thrown into it. It's actually worked fairly well for me, I get that some people might not like the LP or agree with them but this is the year to vote for them, if only to have a chance at upsetting the political system.

You have to remember a lot of Bernie's supporters are independents, not Democrats. A great many of them don't have any party loyalty.

Some of us are leaving explicitly because of this primary and its fuckery.

But yes, Bernie, as well as Trump, are heterogeneous coalitions of all stripes, many being independents that are up for anyone who isn't establishment.

It's increasingly seeming like the respective frontrunners will be so weak by the time November comes that it may be a coin flip of sorts.

Hillary has the advantage for now, but she might still either keep fucking up or even (though astronomically small chance of it) get indicted.

I think this is literally the best time that will ever exist for a third party to get some ground, and maybe even that magical 5%, if they establish themselves as a legitimate protest option.

Oh I entirely agree on the last bit, this year looks increasingly good for third parties.

[Kelinfort]

http://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESID ... /polls.php

Current electoral college map, red is Clinton, blue is Trump

[Washington Resistance Army]

http://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php

Current electoral college map, red is Clinton, blue is Trump

Isn't that a little bass ackwards

[Novus America]

The Democratic Party is the bigger party though. So should have more, and usually does.

This was supposed to be a coronation for Hillary. Such circumstances always breed low turnout.

Trump is a bad candidate. But has his anti trade position plays very well, and at least one reliable poll has him now leading nationally.p

It plays OK, but Hillary knows that and will likely keep her anti-TTIP stance until she sits in the Oval Office. Even if Trump can swing Ohio, Michigan, and some wet dream scenario, Pennsylvania, he still needs more.

Hillary cannot undue her foreign connections and establishment image. And if she does win but loses Michigan, and especially PA, (unlikely but possible). 2020 is going to get ugly. Especially after 4 more years of factories shutting down and poor ecnomic growth.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

When the first breath of winter through the flowers is icing
And the last republican voter votes in Indiana
And you look to the north and a Trump moon is rising
And it seems like all is dying and would leave the world to mourn
In the distance hear the laughter of the last unicorn

I'm alive, I'm alive

[Maineiacs]

Last July, I posted this:



I'm not sure why God has decided to take me up on this. I figure either he really wanted me to return to the faith, he hates me and wanted to punish me, or he wanted to punish me by making the rest of the country hate me. Whichever way, I'm sorry America.

No welching. Don't say I never do anything you ask of me.

Oh, I'll stick to it, I just felt the need to apologize for subjecting the nation to that man.

[Galloism]

No welching. Don't say I never do anything you ask of me.

Oh, I'll stick to it, I just felt the need to apologize for subjecting the nation to that man.

If it's any consolation, you weren't the only promise on that front. There were some exceptionally funny ones that I simply couldn't pass up.

[Kelinfort]

Oh, I'll stick to it, I just felt the need to apologize for subjecting the nation to that man.

If it's any consolation, you weren't the only promise on that front. There were some exceptionally funny ones that I simply couldn't pass up.

Did I promise any insane?

[Icthyia]

Hillary cannot undue her foreign connections and establishment image. And if she does win but loses Michigan, and especially PA, (unlikely but possible). 2020 is going to get ugly. Especially after 4 more years of factories shutting down and poor ecnomic growth.

She can't but it's not enough to kill her. A successful Paul Ryan candidacy in 2020, is, however, possible.

[Novus America]

Those kind of people tend to stay home or vote Green, not Libertarian.

Which is why we work to show them why they should vote Libertarian, not Green.

What part of Bernie's platform is appealing to someone who would vote Libertarian?

I rely more so on appealing to how much those people tend to dislike the two party system and how the LP has the best chance at being the wrench to be thrown into it. It's actually worked fairly well for me, I get that some people might not like the LP or agree with them but this is the year to vote for them, if only to have a chance at upsetting the political system.

Some of us are leaving explicitly because of this primary and its fuckery.

But yes, Bernie, as well as Trump, are heterogeneous coalitions of all stripes, many being independents that are up for anyone who isn't establishment.

It's increasingly seeming like the respective frontrunners will be so weak by the time November comes that it may be a coin flip of sorts.

Hillary has the advantage for now, but she might still either keep fucking up or even (though astronomically small chance of it) get indicted.

I think this is literally the best time that will ever exist for a third party to get some ground, and maybe even that magical 5%, if they establish themselves as a legitimate protest option.

Oh I entirely agree on the last bit, this year looks increasingly good for third parties.

Both Trump and Hillary will fuck you, so might as well feel the Johnson...

[Novus America]

Hillary cannot undue her foreign connections and establishment image. And if she does win but loses Michigan, and especially PA, (unlikely but possible). 2020 is going to get ugly. Especially after 4 more years of factories shutting down and poor ecnomic growth.

She can't but it's not enough to kill her. A successful Paul Ryan candidacy in 2020, is, however, possible.

We will see. You might be right. 2020 though could definitely be interesting. If a decent Reoublican picks up the anti China mantel, especially with things only being worse...

[Arumdaum]

Both Trump and Hillary will fuck you, so might as well feel the Johnson...

lol was that intentional?

[Icthyia]

She can't but it's not enough to kill her. A successful Paul Ryan candidacy in 2020, is, however, possible.

We will see. You might be right. 2020 though could definitely be interesting. If a decent Reoublican picks up the anti China mantel, especially with things only being worse...

Hillary will need to keep the true progressive idea on trade or she may lose and be a one-term president, but then again, the GOP may still be fractured at that time.

Ryan is imo the GOP's strongest chance against her.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Both Trump and Hillary will fuck you, so might as well feel the Johnson...

lol was that intentional?

Oh god I hope so

[Kelinfort]

We will see. You might be right. 2020 though could definitely be interesting. If a decent Reoublican picks up the anti China mantel, especially with things only being worse...

Hillary will need to keep the true progressive idea on trade or she may lose and be a one-term president, but then again, the GOP may still be fractured at that time.

Ryan is imo the GOP's strongest chance against her.

I hate the true progressive ideas concerning trade, but everyone these days seems to hate free trade.

[Novus America]

Both Trump and Hillary will fuck you, so might as well feel the Johnson...

lol was that intentional?

Yes.

[Moulineaux]

This was a good day for Donald.

[Icthyia]

Hillary will need to keep the true progressive idea on trade or she may lose and be a one-term president, but then again, the GOP may still be fractured at that time.

Ryan is imo the GOP's strongest chance against her.

I hate the true progressive ideas concerning trade, but everyone these days seems to hate free trade.

It is because of the establishment's complete failure to mitigate the negative impact through retraining, and to the GOP's conundrum, welfare.

[TomKirk]

Those kind of people tend to stay home or vote Green, not Libertarian.

Which is why we work to show them why they should vote Libertarian, not Green.

What part of Bernie's platform is appealing to someone who would vote Libertarian?

I rely more so on appealing to how much those people tend to dislike the two party system and how the LP has the best chance at being the wrench to be thrown into it. It's actually worked fairly well for me, I get that some people might not like the LP or agree with them but this is the year to vote for them, if only to have a chance at upsetting the political system.

Some of us are leaving explicitly because of this primary and its fuckery.

But yes, Bernie, as well as Trump, are heterogeneous coalitions of all stripes, many being independents that are up for anyone who isn't establishment.

It's increasingly seeming like the respective frontrunners will be so weak by the time November comes that it may be a coin flip of sorts.

Hillary has the advantage for now, but she might still either keep fucking up or even (though astronomically small chance of it) get indicted.

I think this is literally the best time that will ever exist for a third party to get some ground, and maybe even that magical 5%, if they establish themselves as a legitimate protest option.

Oh I entirely agree on the last bit, this year looks increasingly good for third parties.

People who dislike the two parties because both of them let the people with big money have too much power are not the least bit interested in a third party which proposes that property owners should have nearly unrestrained power. Just saying.

[Major-Tom]

This was a good day for Donald.

Read that as Denmark and spent two minutes contemplating how this might benefit Denmark.

I swear I'm sober.

[Washington Resistance Army]

People who dislike the two parties because both of them let the people with big money have too much power are not the least bit interested in a third party which proposes that property owners should have nearly unrestrained power. Just saying.

More than a few people I've talked to about the matter outside of NSG disagree. Like I said, it's not about them agreeing with the party or liking them, it's about that third party being the best chance at disrupting the main two which has appealed to the people I've talked to about it.

But this is starting to veer a bit from the rails, there's a third party thread somewhere for this stuff.

[Moulineaux]

This was a good day for Donald.

Read that as Denmark and spent two minutes contemplating how this might benefit Denmark.

I swear I'm sober.

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good american man

william