Canada if Trump wins?

[BrightonBurg]

If the US made it through WW2, W Bush,and Obama,it will make it through Trump!

Have a beer ( or 12 ) and relax

12 beers over 4 or 8 years sounds woefully inadequate.

Nods "yes" in agreement sage like..

That's beer drank daily ^^ or Cider.. yum yum yum!

Just making my yearly visit to the forum,lol

[Gauthier]

People treat a Trump presidency as if it were the apocalypse, and he is a certified nutter, don't get me wrong, who is wrong about just about everything, but if we survived eight years of Bush, a religious nutter, the evangelical happy clappy Jesus spoke to me in my dreams type, we can survive anything. Hell, if God decided to end the world, fire and brimstone and all, I am convinced that we will still survive, having been harden by eight full years of major incompetence, with a resting period of eight years of minor incompetence.

We've also survived eight years of obama. People are just being pissy if their candidate doesn't win. Nothing new here.

Neither Bush nor Obama blantly announced an interest in hunting down and deporting every single illegal in the country, forcing a foreign nation to pay for a border wall, blockading and establishing a national registry of a specific religion, or starting trade wars with other countries.

[Liriena]

We've also survived eight years of obama. People are just being pissy if their candidate doesn't win. Nothing new here.

Neither Bush nor Obama blantly announced an interest in hunting down and deporting every single illegal in the country, forcing a foreign nation to pay for a border wall, blockading and establishing a national registry of a specific religion, or starting trade wars with other countries.

Also, I don't think Obama openly and proudly advocated for the American military committing war crimes.

[The Germanian states]

Trump is not what world peace needs at the moment and certainly his insults may start a conflict.

[MolokoPlus]

Neither Bush nor Obama blantly announced an interest in hunting down and deporting every single illegal in the country, forcing a foreign nation to pay for a border wall, blockading and establishing a national registry of a specific religion, or starting trade wars with other countries.

Also, I don't think Obama openly and proudly advocated for the American military committing war crimes.

Regardless, his administration condones war crimes.

Its a childish reaction to say "CANADA OMG" if your favored candidate doesn't win. In 2004, I knew far too many people threatening to take the ALCAN down to Yukon and "never come back" if Kerry didn't win. Of course, their plans never came to fruition, nor will the supposed plans of people trying to "escape Trump" or the people trying to "escape Hillary."

Unless we elect someone who could literally destroy this great nation as we know it, I'm staying. This is my one and only home, regardless of who runs it.

[Liriena]

Also, I don't think Obama openly and proudly advocated for the American military committing war crimes.

Regardless, his administration condones war crimes.

I'll grant that you may have a point there.

[Boisonia]

blockading and establishing a national registry of a specific religion

There was another like-minded mustachioed leader in the 1930's with similar ideas such as this, who also promised to "make his nation great again", and I think that anyone with even remote knowledge of western history knows how that ended up. And yet still, I mostly assume through pure ignorance, people insist that Drumpf will solve all of America's problems. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." is a quote that holds especially true with mister Donald Drumpf in my opinion. I bet that George Santayana is sobbing in the afterlife right now as he looks on at this catastrophe waiting to happen.

Either way, I don't think any of his supporters will be swayed by anything anyone in this thread can say. They're just too radical, and that's how radicals are in any political clique or faction. As for all of my cool American brothers, sisters and otherwise who wish to come, the doors are always open to you in the true north strong and free my friends. Just please, at least put up a fight by voting before you abandon your home. You have the power to make change, all you have to do is flex those freedom muscles!

[GangGangland]

Neither Bush nor Obama blantly announced an interest in hunting down and deporting every single illegal in the country, forcing a foreign nation to pay for a border wall, blockading and establishing a national registry of a specific religion, or starting trade wars with other countries.

Also, I don't think Obama openly and proudly advocated for the American military committing war crimes.

Its because Obama is a spineless leader. We dont anymore and its all his fault.

[Gauthier]

Also, I don't think Obama openly and proudly advocated for the American military committing war crimes.

Its because Obama is a spineless leader. We dont anymore and its all his fault.

War crimes, FUCK YEAH!

[Boisonia]

Its because Obama is a spineless leader.

I'd like to refer you to this segment of Last Week Tonight's episode on mister Trump.

It likely won't sway your opinion, but if Obama standing up to criticism regarding his place of birth and inability to do anything meaningful (thanks to the Republican-dominated senate, by the way) makes him spineless, then Donald Trump is essentially a jellyfish. Jus' sayin'.

[Big Jim P]

We've also survived eight years of obama. People are just being pissy if their candidate doesn't win. Nothing new here.

Neither Bush nor Obama blantly announced an interest in hunting down and deporting every single illegal in the country, forcing a foreign nation to pay for a border wall, blockading and establishing a national registry of a specific religion, or starting trade wars with other countries.

We SHOULD be hunting down and deporting every single illegal alien in the country, and we should be doing our best to prevent future illegal immigration. The rest? Meh.

[Big Jim P]

Trump is not what world peace needs at the moment and certainly his insults may start a conflict.

With who? The part of the world that depends on our trade, the art that depends on our defending them or the piss-ant third world who do not matter?

[The Union of English Speaking Countries]

Trump is not what world peace needs at the moment and certainly his insults may start a conflict.

With who? The part of the world that depends on our trade, the art that depends on our defending them or the piss-ant third world who do not matter?

^

Too many nations depend too much on the US to have hostile relations with them and not throw their own country into the shitter as a consequence.

[The Germanian states]

I think Canada should build a wall and make the US pay for it of Trump gets elected.

[Manmeth]

I think Canada should just not give much thought on it. I'll stay in my country and if Donald Trump goes after me then i'll go into Migration mode and live in Vault 61.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

I'll fucking row a tiny boat into the middle of the Atlantic and live on it to keep Trump out of my life.

[Novorobo]

Trump is not what world peace needs at the moment and certainly his insults may start a conflict.

With who? The part of the world that depends on our trade, the art that depends on our defending them or the piss-ant third world who do not matter?

Emphasis mine. Source?

[Grenartia]

Thank you. The difference between the walls of Berlin, Israel, Hungary and is the fact that the former had armies guarding them. America has a SUV and one border patrol guy for every fifteen miles. The current wall is decent, but America needs manpower to actually patrol that wall otherwise it's just a waste of money.

It will still be a waste of money even if you have a veritable army guarding it, because not all undocumented immigrants come that way.

Lets not forget that a wall can be defeated simply by digging under it.

[Grenartia]

They're not at war. If they were at war American troops would be on the Korean peninsula.

There ARE American troops on the Korean peninsula, US Forces Korea to be specific, it's where my dad was stationed.

Also, a ceasefire is not an end to the war. Even if the ceasefire lasts for 6 decades.

[Grenartia]

There ARE American troops on the Korean peninsula, US Forces Korea to be specific, it's where my dad was stationed.

Your dad didn't fire a single shot, did he?

It's NOT a war when both sides are in a CEASE FIRE.

No, it is. Methinks you should double check the definition of ceasefire.

[Grenartia]

Also, I don't think Obama openly and proudly advocated for the American military committing war crimes.

Regardless, his administration condones war crimes.

Its a childish reaction to say "CANADA OMG" if your favored candidate doesn't win. In 2004, I knew far too many people threatening to take the ALCAN down to Yukon and "never come back" if Kerry didn't win. Of course, their plans never came to fruition, nor will the supposed plans of people trying to "escape Trump" or the people trying to "escape Hillary."

Unless we elect someone who could literally destroy this great nation as we know it, I'm staying. This is my one and only home, regardless of who runs it.

Except Trump could literally destroy this great nation. When I imagine the end of a Trump presidency, I can honestly see Washington DC, LA, New York, etc., looking like Berlin at the end of WWII. Based on his comments and handling of protestors at his events, I can see deathcamps being put in place for Muslims, Latinos (regardless of immigration or citizenship status), and dissidents. I can see him literally using the Constitution and the Bill of Rights for toilet paper, just because he can.

[Grenartia]

Also, I don't think Obama openly and proudly advocated for the American military committing war crimes.

Its because Obama is a spineless leader. We dont anymore and its all his fault.

>"spineless"
>literally ordered the extralegal, albeit justified, assassination of a terrorist/war criminal, then sat emotionless and watched as the order was carried out

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

[Grenartia]

Neither Bush nor Obama blantly announced an interest in hunting down and deporting every single illegal in the country, forcing a foreign nation to pay for a border wall, blockading and establishing a national registry of a specific religion, or starting trade wars with other countries.

We SHOULD be hunting down and deporting every single illegal alien in the country, and we should be doing our best to prevent future illegal immigration. The rest? Meh.

While I agree with the second point, the first point is impossible to achieve without either blatant racism, or literally putting every American (including natural born citizens) through the same scrutiny suggested for potential illegal immigrants. I strongly suspect that the latter will not only piss off every far-right gun nut enough to make Waco and Ruby Ridge look like wet firecrackers, but will quickly make every other American embrace illegal immigration.

[Tmutarakhan]

He shows no ability to govern except by the Fuehrerprinzip. When asked to consider what would happen if he gave illegal orders that weren't obeyed, he was incapable of accepting the premise that he would not be obeyed. More frighteningly, when he orders Secret Service and local police to rough up opponents, they have generally obeyed, so the assumption that his attempts to rule by decree would be resisted are not solid. He openly declares his intention to start trade wars with other countries and inject more troops into the Middle East, so I have no idea why you are so confident he will not get us into wars. Blatant discrimination against minorities is an absolute given, the very core of his policies, although he might or might not escalate to genocidal violence. He is definitely going to keep capitalism, in what Mussolini called the "corporatist" form where the state is intimately entwined with favored corporations. He will attempt to loot the treasury for as much money as he can stuff into his own pockets.

Trade wars dont actually involve troops. There already is blatant discrimination except its against whites and anyone not a minority.
Dont know why he would try to fill his pockets. hes a self made millionare who already has money unlike HRC or Bernie "Free Shit" Sanders

What trade wars involve, instead of troops, is massive economic collapse (the 1929 crash started with the Hawley-Smoot tariff bill). This is followed by violent anger, which will not be helped by Trump's incendiary rhetoric appealing to people like you who think it is the poor white people who are the victims of discrimination. Civil strife within the US would be very likely even on the off-chance we didn't get into shooting wars with any other countries.

[Big Jim P]

With who? The part of the world that depends on our trade, the art that depends on our defending them or the piss-ant third world who do not matter?

Emphasis mine. Source?

NATO.