Canada if Trump wins?

[Salandriagado]

Nah, Canada's relatively fussy about who it'll let in.

[Charellia]

Part of me just wants to tell them that Canada is full up with refugees and maybe if America had done its part there would be room. But if anybody genuinely hates Trump enough to leave the country, we always need more taxpayers.

>practically the entire thread praising Trump

The liberal bias of NSG strikes again.

Why Canada? It probably has just as many problems.

Well we do have our own rich idiot who thinks he can lead the country even though he is completely unqualified, but unlike Trump he has no chance of actually leading a party.

[Novorobo]

Just like all those people that said they would move if Obama was elected?

I'll bet the vast majority of these people won't move.

Utterly meaningless comparison. This is a different candidate, disliked for different reasons, in a different year.

[Jochistan]

I can't believe people actually take Trump seriously.

I guess I can see how his revolutionary verbal-diahorrea approach to speeches can capture hearts and minds almost half as well as Obamas inspiring stutters.

But holy shit. Just why? It's like if Radical Liberals elected Kanye West after he said he would make weed mandatory for students, lower the age of consent to 13 and disband the entire military. Alright actually I can see that happening.

But it doesn't make it any less ridiculous that people actually think Trump has any real understanding of national and global issues.
But hey if that's what you guys are into. Go ahead. Don't be surprised if he only makes things much much worse.

[District XIV]

Just like all those people that said they would move if Obama was elected?

I'll bet the vast majority of these people won't move.

Utterly meaningless comparison. This is a different candidate, disliked for different reasons, in a different year.

Your point makes no sense. Yes, different candidate, but strongly disliked by some - and the different year doesn't influence anything at all. My point is that people in 2008 and 2012 declared that if Obama was elected/reelected then they would move, and the vast majority, I assume, did not actually follow through with this. It's a perfectly fair comparison, but I guess if you hate Trump this much then logic is completely out of the picture.

[Arkiasis]

Maybe we should build a wall.

[Novorobo]

Utterly meaningless comparison. This is a different candidate, disliked for different reasons, in a different year.

Your point makes no sense. Yes, different candidate, but strongly disliked by some - and the different year doesn't influence anything at all. My point is that people in 2008 and 2012 declared that if Obama was elected/reelected then they would move, and the vast majority, I assume, did not actually follow through with this. It's a perfectly fair comparison, but I guess if you hate Trump this much then logic is completely out of the picture.

If it isn't a meaningful comparison, what the hell is it supposed to mean? Your point about the similarities is arbitrary without at least some vague idea/form/notion of cause and effect.

[Jochistan]

Maybe we should build a wall.

And make Trump pay for it. Cause he's really rich, not in a bragging way.

[Drawkland]

Let em go if they want, I don't have any plans to leave.

Nor do I. And the ones who leave, don't come back. We'll handle it from here.

And although this would not be feasible, ideally they would be barred from returning.

I mean, if you can't handle the country at its "worst," then you shouldn't be able to reap it at its "best."

A metaphor: I'm in my school's marching band, and perhaps the most useless and deadweighted members are the band are the ones that only stick around for trips. The most absolutely aggravating thing I witnessed was the sheer volume of students who didn't participate in 2013 or 2015, but suddenly showed up in the 2014 season because we went to the Macy's Parade that year. It feels unfair; if you want to have the right to contribute, you shouldn't dart in and out whenever you feel like the situation will benefit you the most. It's unfair to the people who stick around and kind of selfish and irresilient.

I know that the media and certain organizations are doing so but the GENERAL PUBLIC isn't really doing much to stop Trump or turn Trump supporters. If the anti-trump percent of the general public launched an ALL OUT anti-Trump campaign they could probably turn the entire race upside down.

And what if the portion of the public that's willing to move to Canada over this isn't significant enough to sway the election result?

I am highly doubtful that any Canadians will spend significant time and money just to send a vote against Trump. Whatever the number of people who would theoretically do that is, I'm willing to bet it's a fraction of the amount of the people who will move to Canada from the US if Trump is elected (which, again, is not going to be very many).

[Fanosolia]

>practically the entire thread praising Trump

The liberal bias of NSG strikes again.

Why Canada? It probably has just as many problems.

because for some daft reason people think we're amazing because of A FEW things we have over the US. The key word being FEW. that being universal healthcare (which while I like it, it has its problems),
gay marriage (which now every state technically has now), Stronger beer (or so I'm told), tighter on guns laws (though that depends on who you are really if that's a good thing), and I guess whatever UN peacekeeping rep we have. In reality we're the US with SOME perks, and less middle man levels of government. Both in politics and in the population.

Don't get me wrong I love where I live, but I hate how, like with any country, people praise it to the point of idolizing it very creepily.

[Novorobo]

And although this would not be feasible, ideally they would be barred from returning.

I mean, if you can't handle the country at its "worst," then you shouldn't be able to reap it at its "best."

A metaphor: I'm in my school's marching band, and perhaps the most useless and deadweighted members are the band are the ones that only stick around for trips. The most absolutely aggravating thing I witnessed was the sheer volume of students who didn't participate in 2013 or 2015, but suddenly showed up in the 2014 season because we went to the Macy's Parade that year. It feels unfair; if you want to have the right to contribute, you shouldn't dart in and out whenever you feel like the situation will benefit you the most. It's unfair to the people who stick around and kind of selfish and irresilient.

is it any more fair for them to be dragged down by others' decision to vote Trump?

Remember who's asking you this. Note the things I myself pointed out in the OP. But I do find reasoning like this in particular rather hollow.

>practically the entire thread praising Trump

The liberal bias of NSG strikes again.

Why Canada? It probably has just as many problems.

because for some daft reason people think we're amazing because of A FEW things we have over the US. The key word being FEW. that being universal healthcare (which while I like it, it has its problems),
gay marriage (which now every state technically has now), Stronger beer (or so I'm told), tighter on guns laws (though that depends on who you are really if that's a good thing), and I guess whatever UN peacekeeping rep we have. In reality we're the US with SOME perks, and less middle man levels of government. Both in politics and in the population.

Don't get me wrong I love where I live, but I hate how, like with any country, people praise it to the point of idolizing it very creepily.

Heh, I'm more into liquor than beer. And I've always seen gay marriage as a symptom of the same kind of factors that play into gender issues and theocracy, so it's not just isolated to its effects on gays and lesbians. But yeah, the differences between Canada and the USA are overstated.

[The Morning Calm]

It'd be funny if Mexico built a wall to stop influxes of Americans fleeing Trump.

Trump would have actually gotten Mexico to pay for the wall.

[Fanosolia]

Maybe we should build a wall.

nah this is a much better Idea :

https://57.media.tumblr.com/a44d63d41647cc8d677b6b4db3afadec/tumblr_o3irs6OQGj1ul0mdxo1_400.gif

[Outer Sparta]

It'd be funny if Mexico built a wall to stop influxes of Americans fleeing Trump.

Trump would have actually gotten Mexico to pay for the wall.

Or build a wall on the Canadian border and have them pay for it! Maybe Trump hates Canada because Ted Cruz was born there.

[District XIV]

Your point makes no sense. Yes, different candidate, but strongly disliked by some - and the different year doesn't influence anything at all. My point is that people in 2008 and 2012 declared that if Obama was elected/reelected then they would move, and the vast majority, I assume, did not actually follow through with this. It's a perfectly fair comparison, but I guess if you hate Trump this much then logic is completely out of the picture.

If it isn't a meaningful comparison, what the hell is it supposed to mean? Your point about the similarities is arbitrary without at least some vague idea/form/notion of cause and effect.

Literally all I'm saying is that there were people in 2008/2012 who said they would leave the country if Obama was elected - and surprise! Most of them didn't. My argument is is that the same thing is happening here: people are declaring/implying that they're going to leave the country if Trump is elected, but I strongly doubt they actually will if he is, considering the historical context, and the actual cost (both personal and financial) of moving to a different country. It has nothing to do with cause and effect.

I think I'm done here.

[The Black Forrest]

Well? Canada did offer a nice looking island for any refugees. So if it all goes south.

I wonder if they will offer it if Cruz somehow won. All that liberal talk sounds like he wishes he was McCarthy......

[Jordkloden]

If Donald wins, Halifax here I come.

[Novorobo]

If it isn't a meaningful comparison, what the hell is it supposed to mean? Your point about the similarities is arbitrary without at least some vague idea/form/notion of cause and effect.

Literally all I'm saying is that there were people in 2008/2012 who said they would leave the country if Obama was elected - and surprise! Most of them didn't. My argument is is that the same thing is happening here: people are declaring/implying that they're going to leave the country if Trump is elected, but I strongly doubt they actually will if he is, considering the historical context, and the actual cost (both personal and financial) of moving to a different country. It has nothing to do with cause and effect.

I think I'm done here.

Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Cause being the personal/financial cost, and effect being the reluctance to move.

I still think people are more willing to pay that cost, given how high emotions are running now compared to 2008, but at least there was actually something to refute this time.

[Drawkland]

And although this would not be feasible, ideally they would be barred from returning.

I mean, if you can't handle the country at its "worst," then you shouldn't be able to reap it at its "best."

A metaphor: I'm in my school's marching band, and perhaps the most useless and deadweighted members are the band are the ones that only stick around for trips. The most absolutely aggravating thing I witnessed was the sheer volume of students who didn't participate in 2013 or 2015, but suddenly showed up in the 2014 season because we went to the Macy's Parade that year. It feels unfair; if you want to have the right to contribute, you shouldn't dart in and out whenever you feel like the situation will benefit you the most. It's unfair to the people who stick around and kind of selfish and irresilient.

is it any more fair for them to be dragged down by others' decision to vote Trump?

Remember who's asking you this. Note the things I myself pointed out in the OP. But I do find reasoning like this in particular rather hollow.

I'm not necessarily saying that they shouldn't be allowed entrance to Canada. I never actually commented on that in particular.

What I'm saying is that they shouldn't be allowed to come back to the US later if a candidate they favor is elected once Trumps term(s) are over. Because in that case, they'd be reaping the benefits of others' decisions to vote for someone.

But this is implying people will be willing to move between different countries, and deal with the hassle, cost, and confusion that entails not once, but twice in the period of a single decade.

Hell, my family only moved across America, not even dealing with the problems of cultural and national differences, and it took us almost 8 years to be fully "settled."

[Big Jim P]

Funny. You don't see people saying they'll run to Canada if hillary or bernie win, and they are worse than Trump. I guess we all can't act like petulant children.

[The Sotoan Union]

Everyone always says they'll leave.

If the country didn't have an emigration crisis over Vietnam or Bush then why would it happen now?

[Deskorga]

TRUMP'S GONNA NUKE CANADA!c

In all seriousness, I don't think Trump's going to have any real significant effect on Canada.

[Waldriech]

Canadadians be like, "We will build a wall, and we will make America pay for it."

Also, as a Republican I can say, Trump can't win, he won't get enough delegates. Then it will go to the convention, where the delegates along with the GOP establishment will stop him.

[Luziyca]

Well, as a Canadian, my stance is the more the merrier. I'm not sure how many Americans would actually leave their country over Trump being elected, but hey, you guys are welcome on this side of the border.

This.

Though to be honest, if they do move here, I suggest we settle the Americans in the northern regions of Canada: probably the NWT and the Yukon, and maybe parts of Nunavut, so to assert our sovereignty over the Arctic.

[Drawkland]

Canadadians be like, "We will build a wall, and we will make America pay for it."

Then Mexico decides to build a wall and make Canada pay for it.

Except they don't have any borders with Canada.

YET.