The UK Referendum on Membership of the European Union

[Imperializt Russia]

Well, why not. For pitiful remnant of once powerful British Empire, Commonwealth ties are much crucial to it's prosperity and foreign policy than continental, franco-german EU...which is on the brink of collapse, whether or not they want to admit it.

I'm fairly certain we aren't reliant on the Commonwealth for trade, and we certainly don't levy taxes on them.

[Socialist Czechia]

Well, why not. For pitiful remnant of once powerful British Empire, Commonwealth ties are much crucial to it's prosperity and foreign policy than continental, franco-german EU...which is on the brink of collapse, whether or not they want to admit it.

I'm fairly certain we aren't reliant on the Commonwealth for trade, and we certainly don't levy taxes on them.

I am fairly certain, that Canada and Australia are more important for Britain than Finland or Italy.

Or France.

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

I'm fairly certain we aren't reliant on the Commonwealth for trade, and we certainly don't levy taxes on them.

I am fairly certain, that Canada and Australia are more important for Britain than Finland or Italy.

Or France.

Finland? Maybe. Italy and France? No.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/united- ... -partners/

[Celritannia]

As a Citizen of Yorkshire, I shall be voting to remain in the EU.

Interestingly, my Town has been cited for serious development work by the E.U. due to the main U.K. Government's inability to help build it up.

[Imperializt Russia]

As a Citizen of Yorkshire, I shall be voting to remain in the EU.

Interestingly, my Town has been cited for serious development work by the E.U. due to the main U.K. Government's inability to help build it up.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, people in Liverpool and other cities who vote to leave the EU are being daft, because the EU put billions in Liverpool and other British cities that the British government never would have.

I do need to sort out my postal vote though since I don't even know where I will be living when the vote happens.

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

As a Citizen of Yorkshire, I shall be voting to remain in the EU.

Interestingly, my Town has been cited for serious development work by the E.U. due to the main U.K. Government's inability to help build it up.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, people in Liverpool and other cities who vote to leave the EU are being daft, because the EU put billions in Liverpool and other British cities that the British government never would have.

I do need to sort out my postal vote though since I don't even know where I will be living when the vote happens.

We'll have you repay all that money!

[Celritannia]

As a Citizen of Yorkshire, I shall be voting to remain in the EU.

Interestingly, my Town has been cited for serious development work by the E.U. due to the main U.K. Government's inability to help build it up.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, people in Liverpool and other cities who vote to leave the EU are being daft, because the EU put billions in Liverpool and other British cities that the British government never would have.

I do need to sort out my postal vote though since I don't even know where I will be living when the vote happens.

IIRC, more money will be given to Tory controlled constituencies than any other (guess that means my Labour constituency is not getting a penny).

It is funny how people are saying that the E.U. is undemocratic. Well, it took the Undemocratic House of Lords to vote against Osborne's October Tax Credit cut to low income families and those on benefits.

E.U. also has called the Bedroom Tax unlawful and against Human Rights (as did the U.N.)

We are stronger in the E.U., and people benefit from it greatlt.

[Celritannia]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, people in Liverpool and other cities who vote to leave the EU are being daft, because the EU put billions in Liverpool and other British cities that the British government never would have.

I do need to sort out my postal vote though since I don't even know where I will be living when the vote happens.

We'll have you repay all that money!

Why do you think money goes in to the E.U. from the Member States?
So then the Money goes out again to projects in those countries.

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

We'll have you repay all that money!

Why do you think money goes in to the E.U. from the Member States?
So then the Money goes out again to projects in those countries.

But if the UK Brexits, we just spend all that money on a non-member. So you'll have to repay it. It's only fair.

[Socialist Czechia]

But if the UK Brexits, we just spend all that money on a non-member. So you'll have to repay it. It's only fair.

So much of the money is from Germany, though.

I say they still owes the rest of the Europe.
Let's call it 'WW2 reparations', which they were never forced to pay in full.
And without giving a two s*its about it.

Just make summit about it. Like: No one has any debt to Germany, every immigrant to Germany and everything else is Germany's problem alone, since it's all only theirs and only theirs fault, as usually.
And we can make it in Versailles again, for the sake of good old times. :3

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

But if the UK Brexits, we just spend all that money on a non-member. So you'll have to repay it. It's only fair.

So much of the money is from Germany, though.

I say they still owes the rest of the Europe.
Let's call it 'WW2 reparations', which they were never forced to pay in full.
And without giving a two s*its about it.

Just make summit about it. Like: No one has any debt to Germany, every immigrant to Germany and everything else is Germany's problem alone, since it's all only theirs and only theirs fault, as usually.
And we can make it in Versailles again, for the sake of good old times. :3

You just want them to invade your country again, don't you?

[Immoren]

I am fairly certain, that Canada and Australia are more important for Britain than Finland or Italy.

Or France.

Finland? Maybe. Italy and France? No.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/united- ... -partners/

Clearly we should do better then

[Frank Zipper]

With Trump calling NATO obsolete, I suppose we have to take his idiot ramblings seriously, wouldn't the UK be better more closely allied militarily with our European neighbours?

[Immoren]

With Trump calling NATO obsolete, I suppose we have to take his idiot ramblings seriously, wouldn't the UK be better more closely allied militarily with our European neighbours?

EU regiments when?

[Imperializt Russia]

With Trump calling NATO obsolete, I suppose we have to take his idiot ramblings seriously, wouldn't the UK be better more closely allied militarily with our European neighbours?

If the US wholly withdraws from Europe?
Technically yes (compared to going alone), realistically hell no because we'll have lost the US.

But we've opted out of ever closer union and the prospect of a joint European forces that would eventually bring, so meh.

[Teemant]

Actually everything that is happening right now is the result of the United Kingdom choices in 1950s. All countries in Europe asked UK to lead the European project but UK refused it multiple times because UK thought rest of the world was more important to them than continental Europe (UK was still a colonial empire back then). If UK would've joined back then the European Union would look today much more like United Kingdom and its people want. But when United Kingdom eventually wanted to join it's attempts were blocked by De Gaulle for over a decade and European project was shaped without any United Kingdom influence - the principle of ever closer union was developed back then too.

I mean United Kingdom has very a simple choice. Accept the ever closer union or leave.

[Imperializt Russia]

Actually everything that is happening right now is the result of the United Kingdom choices in 1950s. All countries in Europe asked UK to lead the European project but UK refused it multiple times because UK thought rest of the world was more important to them than continental Europe (UK was still a colonial empire back then). If UK would've joined back then the European Union would look today much more like United Kingdom and its people want. But when United Kingdom eventually wanted to join it's attempts were blocked by De Gaulle for over a decade and European project was shaped without any United Kingdom influence - the principle of ever closer union was developed back then too.

I mean United Kingdom has very a simple choice. Accept the ever closer union or leave.

Well that isn't the choice, since "ever closer union opt-out" was a sweetener thrown to us entirely to try and get us to stay in.

Which, for the record, I hugely disagree with but hey, that's the world we live in now.

[New Benian Republic]

With Trump calling NATO obsolete, I suppose we have to take his idiot ramblings seriously, wouldn't the UK be better more closely allied militarily with our European neighbours?

EU regiments when?

There shouldn't be EU mandated military forces, we should instead keep out national armies and hope for the best.

[Teemant]

Actually everything that is happening right now is the result of the United Kingdom choices in 1950s. All countries in Europe asked UK to lead the European project but UK refused it multiple times because UK thought rest of the world was more important to them than continental Europe (UK was still a colonial empire back then). If UK would've joined back then the European Union would look today much more like United Kingdom and its people want. But when United Kingdom eventually wanted to join it's attempts were blocked by De Gaulle for over a decade and European project was shaped without any United Kingdom influence - the principle of ever closer union was developed back then too.

I mean United Kingdom has very a simple choice. Accept the ever closer union or leave.

Well that isn't the choice, since "ever closer union opt-out" was a sweetener thrown to us entirely to try and get us to stay in.

Which, for the record, I hugely disagree with but hey, that's the world we live in now.

This even closer union opt-out seems to be a way to make United Kingdom leave European Union in a slowest possible way. Because if United Kingdom has its opt out then European Union and United Kingdom will eventually grow apart.

[Frank Zipper]

With Trump calling NATO obsolete, I suppose we have to take his idiot ramblings seriously, wouldn't the UK be better more closely allied militarily with our European neighbours?

EU regiments when?

I was thinking more of an alliance than a European army.

[Thermodolia]

EU regiments when?

I was thinking more of an alliance than a European army.

Like NATO but for and by Europe, right?

[Frank Zipper]

I was thinking more of an alliance than a European army.

Like NATO but for and by Europe, right?

Yes.

[Imperializt Russia]

I was thinking more of an alliance than a European army.

Like NATO but for and by Europe, right?

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[Raxacoricofallibatorius]

I'll be voting to leave and once the Mayoral campaign is done will actively campaign to leave. Personally I think the best circumstance would be to leave the EU but remain in the EEA free trade area.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

I'm not seeing the benefits of leaving the EU.

The risks to the GDP if this bbc article is accurate seem to heavily outweigh the rewards of leaving.

The best-case scenario, according to think tank Open Europe, is that the UK would be better off by 1.6% of GDP a year by 2030

The Centre for Economic Performance, at the London School of Economics, says the worst-case scenario is a 6.3% to 9.5% reduction in GDP, "a loss of a similar size to that resulting from the global financial crisis of 2008/09". The best case, according to their analysis, is a loss of 2.2% of GDP, although it does not take into account as wide a range of factors as the Open Europe study.

I mean is a 1.6% boost to GDP worth the risk of a potential loss of 6.3%?

I think i'll take the option that doesn't involve the risk of living through that financial crisis again.