The UK Referendum on Membership of the European Union

[Novus America]

Many people here do not seem to realize this... The are still in the denial, anger and bargaining phases.

Also no shit. Its been one day after an incredibly divisive vote. What did you expect?

Oh I expected this. I am still pointing it out.

[Souseiseki]

I have deemed this a satisfactory result. Any economic problems are utterly secondary to dismantling Social Humanism.

the fuck are you even on about

[Camicon]

Hmm. By a thin margin though. I imagine that if Northern Ireland and Scotland both hold referenda of their own then Wales will follow suit

Its doubtful, to say the least.

Correct me if I'm wrong but politicians in Scotland have already stated their intent to hold a referendum. And if Northern Ireland went heavily EU, and Scotland looks to be leaving the UK, why wouldn't they explore unifying Ireland? And if the UK looks like it's going to be less a "united Kingdom" and more a "England and Wales Party of Two", well, that's a very different situation than what folks are seeing currently.

[Kriga]

Well...say hello to the end of a union, and an end to economic prosperity.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I have deemed this a satisfactory result. Any economic problems are utterly secondary to dismantling Social Humanism.

Ah yes, here comes another person who thinks money doesn't matter.

Look, come back and tell me all about money not being important when you actually have a hard choice to make with your money.

[Indian Empire]

I have deemed this a satisfactory result. Any economic problems are utterly secondary to dismantling Social Humanism.

Yeah... If America ends up with Trump, I'm definitely not moving to Britain. It wasn't likely in the first place, now I won't even go there, period. If Trump became President, Germany and Sweden would certainly be on my radar. Any chance of the UK being on my radar just disappeared.

[Novus America]

Well, Obama said the UK's special business partnerships with the US will maintain their status even if Brexit occurs.
http://news.sky.com/story/1717094/obama ... ill-endure

The relationships might be there, but the private investment will not.

The investment might be. Singapore does just fine. If investors think they can make money off the UK they will invest. In fact now is the time to buy pounds.

[Novus America]

Its doubtful, to say the least.

Correct me if I'm wrong but politicians in Scotland have already stated their intent to hold a referendum. And if Northern Ireland went heavily EU, and Scotland looks to be leaving the UK, why wouldn't they explore unifying Ireland? And if the UK looks like it's going to be less a "united Kingdom" and more a "England and Wales Party of Two", well, that's a very different situation than what folks are seeing currently.

Scotland has no sovereignty though. It can only vote to leave if the UK lets it.

[Dooom35796821595]

Well...say hello to the end of a union, and an end to economic prosperity.

Yeah, because no country can survive economically outside a supranational organisation with less then 100 million citizens.

[Greater Mackonia]

Its doubtful, to say the least.

Correct me if I'm wrong but politicians in Scotland have already stated their intent to hold a referendum. And if Northern Ireland went heavily EU, and Scotland looks to be leaving the UK, why wouldn't they explore unifying Ireland? And if the UK looks like it's going to be less a "united Kingdom" and more a "England and Wales Party of Two", well, that's a very different situation than what folks are seeing currently.

The blathering of Holyrood is utterly irrelevant. All powers on calling a legitimate referendum lie with Westminster, they exist at our behest and can only carry out any meaningful action with our permission. I would not put it past the incompetency of the government to grant them this referendum, but until then this big-talk of "hurr durr there will be a second referendum!" is just meaningless threats.

There shouldn't even be a Scottish parliament.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The relationships might be there, but the private investment will not.

The investment might be. Singapore does just fine. If investors think they can make money off the UK they will invest. In fact now is the time to buy pounds.

Well, yes, what I mean by it is that now that the UK is out of the Eurozone, American companies who had branches in the UK specifically because of the market reach to Europe are now going to have to move many of their jobs to the continent.

That means the investment is not going to be the same.

[Greater Mackonia]

I have deemed this a satisfactory result. Any economic problems are utterly secondary to dismantling Social Humanism.

Yeah... If America ends up with Trump, I'm definitely not moving to Britain. It wasn't likely in the first place, now I won't even go there, period. If Trump became President, Germany and Sweden would certainly be on my radar. Any chance of the UK being on my radar just disappeared.

Oh, I'm absolutely bowled over with regret by that cataclysmic consequence.

[Stormopolis]

Oh, harking back to the migrant thing:



Someone like Hurdegaryp will probably translate. I'm off to bed.

[Souseiseki]

Correct me if I'm wrong but politicians in Scotland have already stated their intent to hold a referendum. And if Northern Ireland went heavily EU, and Scotland looks to be leaving the UK, why wouldn't they explore unifying Ireland? And if the UK looks like it's going to be less a "united Kingdom" and more a "England and Wales Party of Two", well, that's a very different situation than what folks are seeing currently.

The blathering of Holyrood is utterly irrelevant. All powers on calling a legitimate referendum lie with Westminster, they exist at our behest and can only carry out any meaningful action with our permission. I would not put it past the incompetency of the government to grant them this referendum, but until then this big-talk of "hurr durr there will be a second referendum!" is just meaningless threats.

There shouldn't even be a Scottish parliament.

it's like wants to kill the UK

[Novus America]

The investment might be. Singapore does just fine. If investors think they can make money off the UK they will invest. In fact now is the time to buy pounds.

Well, yes, what I mean by it is that now that the UK is out of the Eurozone, American companies who had branches in the UK specifically because of the market reach to Europe are now going to have to move many of their jobs to the continent.

That means the investment is not going to be the same.

Possibly. Something like that happened to the Phillipines. We shall see how it works out. Certainly the nature of the investments in the UK will change to some degree.

[Kriga]

Well...say hello to the end of a union, and an end to economic prosperity.

Yeah, because no country can survive economically outside a supranational organisation with less then 100 million citizens.

Well, perhaps if Britain had something to offer besides having a strong capital city that has made its economic prosperity on investment and trade, then no...i do not think Britain (or what will be left of it) will survive. Pound will go down and never reach its old grandeur, and the EU will most definitely give us a cold shoulder.

All because some farmers and nationalists wanted to 'reclaim' their sovereignty. Best thing we could have done was to stay and work in an alliance with eurosceptic parties against the collectivist Merkel/Junker bandwagon, rather than leave like cowards. Britain has lost her economic influence, and her place on the world's stage.

[Greater Mackonia]

I have deemed this a satisfactory result. Any economic problems are utterly secondary to dismantling Social Humanism.

Ah yes, here comes another person who thinks money doesn't matter.

Look, come back and tell me all about money not being important when you actually have a hard choice to make with your money.

Ah yes, another person who thinks they're being very intelligent by making up their opponents' arguments and creating vague answers to those made up arguments. Do continue demonstrating your immense intellectual faculties in this fashion, I'm sure you'll be very amusing.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

"Less British Tourists can afford to go abroad to Spain for holiday"

"Spaniards rejoice"

Don't trust 'em. They might rebuild the Armada...

I would love to see an Armada of ships from a bygone age, that would be amazing.

I wonder if it's more or less expensive to build an 18th century ship over something like a modern destroyer or cruiser?

"Less British Tourists can afford to go abroad to Spain for holiday"

"Spaniards rejoice"

The British expat community will grow. Whacky stick!

Nah they're all going to Canada, seems to be the place to go if you hate your home country for some reason.
I'm not complaining.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Ah yes, here comes another person who thinks money doesn't matter.

Look, come back and tell me all about money not being important when you actually have a hard choice to make with your money.

Ah yes, another person who thinks they're being very intelligent by making up their opponents' arguments and creating vague answers to those made up arguments. Do continue demonstrating your immense intellectual faculties in this fashion, I'm sure you'll be very amusing.

I mean, I find it amusing that you think as such:

"money problems?! Bah, tough it up Brits! Our ideals of dismantling an ideology I find repugnant is more important than your pockets! Now, who's gonna buy me a beer".

Honestly, it makes me chuckle, and I'm doing rather well under this turn of events for Britain, so my pocket is not being hurt by this.

[Dooom35796821595]

Yeah, because no country can survive economically outside a supranational organisation with less then 100 million citizens.

Well, perhaps if Britain had something to offer besides having a strong capital city that has made its economic prosperity on investment and trade, then no...i do not think Britain (or what will be left of it) will survive. Pound will go down and never reach its old grandeur, and the EU will most definitely give us a cold shoulder.

All because some farmers and nationalists wanted to 'reclaim' their sovereignty. Best thing we could have done was to stay and work in an alliance with eurosceptic parties against the collectivist Merkel/Junker bandwagon, rather than leave like cowards. Britain has lost her economic influence, and her place on the world's stage.

Because Hong Kong and New York are dependent on China and the USA respectively. Right?

[Indian Empire]

Yeah, because no country can survive economically outside a supranational organisation with less then 100 million citizens.

Well, perhaps if Britain had something to offer besides having a strong capital city that has made its economic prosperity on investment and trade, then no...i do not think Britain (or what will be left of it) will survive. Pound will go down and never reach its old grandeur, and the EU will most definitely give us a cold shoulder.

All because some farmers and nationalists wanted to 'reclaim' their sovereignty. Best thing we could have done was to stay and work in an alliance with eurosceptic parties against the collectivist Merkel/Junker bandwagon, rather than leave like cowards. Britain has lost her economic influence, and her place on the world's stage.

Here's what I think will happen:

Scotland leaves the UK to join the EU, NI joins Ireland, and Britain falls into a deep depression with seemingly no end, until the peoples vote to rejoin, then they recover. I can't see the UK making it on it's own.

[Novus America]

Yeah, because no country can survive economically outside a supranational organisation with less then 100 million citizens.

Well, perhaps if Britain had something to offer besides having a strong capital city that has made its economic prosperity on investment and trade, then no...i do not think Britain (or what will be left of it) will survive. Pound will go down and never reach its old grandeur, and the EU will most definitely give us a cold shoulder.

All because some farmers and nationalists wanted to 'reclaim' their sovereignty. Best thing we could have done was to stay and work in an alliance with eurosceptic parties against the collectivist Merkel/Junker bandwagon, rather than leave like cowards. Britain has lost her economic influence, and her place on the world's stage.

Singapore survives just fine on investment and trade. Leaving Malasyia did not kill it. We will have to see how this turns out. Britain lost most of her influence a while ago. That is not coming back, but she never had that much inside the EU either.

[Tokuopolis]

This is really sad. I couldn't vote, but I figured we would remain in.

Hopefully, We'll join again.

https://ronanwills.wordpress.com/2016/0 ... more-20375

[Greater Mackonia]

Ah yes, another person who thinks they're being very intelligent by making up their opponents' arguments and creating vague answers to those made up arguments. Do continue demonstrating your immense intellectual faculties in this fashion, I'm sure you'll be very amusing.

I mean, I find it amusing that you think as such:

"money problems?! Bah, tough it up Brits! Our ideals of dismantling an ideology I find repugnant is more important than your pockets! Now, who's gonna buy me a beer".

Honestly, it makes me chuckle.

I'm an amusing kind of guy.

I mean, a word on those "money problems", the FTSE recovered something like half of its original value by the time Porky made his bacon.

[Neu Leonstein]

Singapore does just fine.

You're like the fifth person I've seen bring up Singapore as an example. I still don't get it - what in god's name does a South East Asian city state transit hub have to do with the UK? There is more or less nothing about Singapore's socio-economic and political set-up that would be replicable in Britain. But it's somehow become the go-to example.