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Postby Celseon » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:24 pm

Regarding this article from the OP:

http://campaignagainstsexrobots.org/2016/02/10/challenging-sex-robots-and-the-brutal-dehumanisation-of-women/

Robot ethicist and director of the Campaign Against Sex Robots, Dr. Kathleen Richardson, stated that the very business idea of sex robots is modelled on the already existing businesses of the sex trade and the porn industry. The creation of sex robots imitates and reproduces the value system of these corrupt and brutal industries that capitalise on the exchange and dehumanisation of women.


Except women can and do voluntarily enter into professions such as exotic dancing or pornographic modeling/acting, and ripping away the right to decide to do this is decidedly against women's liberation since it necessarily entails removal of part of women's agency.

There is of course another very important side to this argument that concerns the creation of male sex robots for the use of women, and the homosexual use of sex robots, which are essential layers to this debate to be discussed. Men, women and children all have a right to have their subjectivity recognised and should not be presented as a ‘thing’ to be used, discriminated against, or coerced.


So don't allow manufacturers to model sex bots after real people without their expressed written consent. That's a given.

However, what cannot be denied is that sex robots, like most of the technology we use today, have predominantly been designed and created by men and with male users in mind. At present the technology industry is undeniably male dominated. This is a fact visible from the top down, from workers and investors, to owners and creators.
Men are also the main users and buyers of pornography and prostituted persons.
This has resulted in sex robots being modelled on the appearance of porn stars and prostitutes and consequently inheriting the same roles.


Yes, it's important to protect a woman's right to control the use of her likeness. This is part and parcel of ensuring that participation in pornographic modeling is voluntary, and it cannot be eschewed. It's why people shouldn't be allowed to design sex bots that resemble real people without consent from those people. Nevertheless, there are women who would be willing to give such consent, and it is an inextricable part of women's agency that voluntary participation in relationships with pornographic studios and toy manufacturers be on the table for women. Improvement of those relationships, particularly with regard to factors such as working hours, safety conditions, contract negotiation, and so on should be the area of focus for feminists.

It may seem obvious to those in their mid twenties and older that porn is not representative of real life, real sex or real relationships between men and women. But due to a widespread lack of sex education and the ubiquity of porn on the internet, many young people today confess to learning a great deal about sex from adult entertainment.
Anti-pornography scholar Gail Dines argues that the dominant images and stories distributed by the porn industry promote and legitimise a gender system that undermines equality and encourages violence against women. Pornographers exploit the degradation of the female body. These often extreme and violent images lead to distorted notions of sex and relationships.
The creation of sex robots would make these images and relations viewed in porn tangible to the viewer by putting a faux female sex worker in front of them. The sex robot will be used by its owner in the same way women are used in pornography. Due to the humanlike appearance of the sex robot, the concern is that the user will begin to see sex with robots and sex with humans as an interchangeable physical act. This would result in the same sexual objectification present in porn and sex work ultimately penetrating human relationships and human sex. Sex robots will create another means through which women will be presented as objects to be used for sexual gratification and mistreatment. They will also desensitise humans to intimacy and empathy, which can only be developed through experiencing human interaction and mutual consenting relationships.


First of all, if the root of the problem lies in children's access to quality sex education maybe that should be the focus instead of sex bots? Secondly, I can't help but notice the casual disregard for adolescents' access to pornographic works in periodical and video form and use of various sex toys in the time period predating the commercial internet, which is important because there is an acknowledgement that people having been adolescents in the mid-1990s or earlier are able to functionally distinguish between pornography's fictional scenarios and actual human sexual relationships. This would imply that consumption of pornographic works and use of sex toys does not turn people into women hating sex maniacs after all, which is purported to be the reason sex bots should never, ever exist.

In The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction, cultural critic Walter Benjamin points out that we can now mass-produce art in a way that was never possible before technology. But he emphasises that when a work of art becomes mass-produced, the original piece loses its significance. It becomes obsolete and is no longer valued in the same way. The ‘aura’, or authenticity, of the original is lost.
With the introduction of sex robots into society – with the very real potential for them to be mass-produced – the original is lost. That is, the original human, consenting relationship which is based on freedom rather than control and coercion.


Human relationships, as the author has already yielded in the previous segment, do not lose their "aura of authenticity" because of the availability and consumption of pornographic works and sex toys. People can clearly distinguish the two, and if the author is to be believed with sex education of sufficient quality this distinction could be maintained in youths growing up in the age of the internet. That is the specific problem that is pointed to as the key distinction between yesteryear's crop of people who are able to make that distinction and today's crop of people who purportedly cannot. So why isn't it the focus of the article?

In order to protect basic human rights and discourage the brutal objectification of humankind, it’s time to examine the human ethics of freedom in relation to sex robots. We must address the ways in which advancing technology should be used as a force for good and could reflect what is best for humankind. We – as humans – have a voice, and we must use it.
We cannot let our humanity and our dignity slip away into a world of technology.


Sure, but outright banning sex bots is off the table for me. Regulation of use of peoples' images, ensuring contracts concerning such are negotiated on even terms and are properly enforced, addressing manipulative recruiting practices, these are all areas I'm perfectly fine with examining.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:56 pm

Celseon wrote:Except women can and do voluntarily enter into professions such as exotic dancing or pornographic modeling/acting, and ripping away the right to decide to do this is decidedly against women's liberation since it necessarily entails removal of part of women's agency.

So don't allow manufacturers to model sex bots after real people without their expressed written consent. That's a given.

Yes, it's important to protect a woman's right to control the use of her likeness. This is part and parcel of ensuring that participation in pornographic modeling is voluntary, and it cannot be eschewed. It's why people shouldn't be allowed to design sex bots that resemble real people without consent from those people. Nevertheless, there are women who would be willing to give such consent, and it is an inextricable part of women's agency that voluntary participation in relationships with pornographic studios and toy manufacturers be on the table for women. Improvement of those relationships, particularly with regard to factors such as working hours, safety conditions, contract negotiation, and so on should be the area of focus for feminists.

First of all, if the root of the problem lies in children's access to quality sex education maybe that should be the focus instead of sex bots? Secondly, I can't help but notice the casual disregard for adolescents' access to pornographic works in periodical and video form and use of various sex toys in the time period predating the commercial internet, which is important because there is an acknowledgement that people having been adolescents in the mid-1990s or earlier are able to functionally distinguish between pornography's fictional scenarios and actual human sexual relationships. This would imply that consumption of pornographic works and use of sex toys does not turn people into women hating sex maniacs after all, which is purported to be the reason sex bots should never, ever exist.

Human relationships, as the author has already yielded in the previous segment, do not lose their "aura of authenticity" because of the availability and consumption of pornographic works and sex toys. People can clearly distinguish the two, and if the author is to be believed with sex education of sufficient quality this distinction could be maintained in youths growing up in the age of the internet. That is the specific problem that is pointed to as the key distinction between yesteryear's crop of people who are able to make that distinction and today's crop of people who purportedly cannot. So why isn't it the focus of the article?

Sure, but outright banning sex bots is off the table for me. Regulation of use of peoples' images, ensuring contracts concerning such are negotiated on even terms and are properly enforced, addressing manipulative recruiting practices, these are all areas I'm perfectly fine with examining.

Everything you said made perfect sense. What are you doing posting logic on this thread? :p
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Postby Novorobo » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:12 pm

If the idea of banning sex robots is based on what their customers would think of sex, by what standard does it not constitute a form of censorship?
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Postby Nocturnalis » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:43 am

And they say feminism is no longer needed in the western world.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:51 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:As I explained in my earlier post, I too want sex bots to be banned but... can you imagine just how butthurt would all the gold diggers be if sex robots made them obsolete?


There is no way, they've got nothing to worry about so long as penetrating a real vagina feels better than using a sex robot. The only advantage the latter has is on cost.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:18 am

Novorobo wrote:If the idea of banning sex robots is based on what their customers would think of sex, by what standard does it not constitute a form of censorship?

The OP certainly doesn't see that as a problem, because she's firmly in favour of oppression.
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Postby Hirota » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:27 am

Chessmistress wrote:Also: the fact that sexism in videogames and even in virtual assistants (again: a pure virtual environment) encourages sexism in real life is already know,
Chess making a wild claim relying on bloggy shit pieces as "evidence"? Thats new.

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The burden of proof is upon you to prove your claim. When you claim that video games and virtual assistants encourage sexism in real life, and that this is already "know" (sic) you are talking utter bollocks - as usual.

Nonetheless, I'll pre-empt your abysmal list of links from blogger sites with a couple of actual studies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25844719
http://psychology.okstate.edu/faculty/m ... s/PPMC.pdf - this one is particularly amusing as it found evidence that those surveyed who did think gaming was sexist were actually sexist themselves. That sounds familiar doesn't it.

At absolute best you can demonstrate there is some evidence supporting the argument, but it is very clear there is no such consensus, nor is it "know" (sic)

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Postby New Benian Republic » Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:50 am

Saiwania wrote:
Greater Hunnia wrote:As I explained in my earlier post, I too want sex bots to be banned but... can you imagine just how butthurt would all the gold diggers be if sex robots made them obsolete?


There is no way, they've got nothing to worry about so long as penetrating a real vagina feels better than using a sex robot. The only advantage the latter has is on cost.

So some of these robots are cheaper than the women? :p
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Postby New Benian Republic » Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:58 am

Saiwania wrote:
Greater Hunnia wrote:As I explained in my earlier post, I too want sex bots to be banned but... can you imagine just how butthurt would all the gold diggers be if sex robots made them obsolete?


There is no way, they've got nothing to worry about so long as penetrating a real vagina feels better than using a sex robot. The only advantage the latter has is on cost.

So some of these robots are cheaper than the women? :p
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:15 am

Mirakai wrote:I highly doubt robots desinged specifically for sex will harm gender equality, seeing as if this technology ever is fully realized, there are probably going to be male versions as well


Indeed, the OP seems to be confused as to whether this is an issue of gender equality or an issue of cyber-prostitution. It's true that the majority of sex workers are women, but we're not talking about sex workers here.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:27 am

The only part of this I can understand someone being opposed to would be sex robots shaped like children. That is just wrong. As for the OP's misconception that sex robots will turn people into sexist rapists well. . . that is entirely baseless. Of course people objectified cortana, she is a highly sexualized character thus people asking about her sex life is not unexpected. After all a vast portion of the internet is dedicated to porn suggesting at least a very vocal minority like to fantasize.

It is borderline insulting that you think men are incapable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality. In fact it is sexist.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:36 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:The only part of this I can understand someone being opposed to would be sex robots shaped like children. That is just wrong. As for the OP's misconception that sex robots will turn people into sexist rapists well. . . that is entirely baseless. Of course people objectified cortana, she is a highly sexualized character thus people asking about her sex life is not unexpected. After all a vast portion of the internet is dedicated to porn suggesting at least a very vocal minority like to fantasize.

It is borderline insulting that you think men are incapable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality. In fact it is sexist.

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Postby Chessmistress » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:42 am

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Well I asked Chessmistress by TG whether she plays chess. She said yes, but when I tried to arrange a game she wasn't interested.


It may be due I don't play chess anymore, since a long time. Sometimes I would play again, but it's beyond me. Personal reasons.

Ailiailia wrote:It IS a rather subtle name actually. Chess rankings use the term "master" in both the women's and men's leagues. It's "master", "national master", "international master", "grandmaster" ... and in the women's league it's "woman master", "national woman master" etc.

Women are allowed to play in the men's league. Currently the highest rated FIDE player who is a woman is Grandmaster Yifan Hou, who is 70th in the men's rankings.

Maybe "mistress" has some other connotations for you, and maybe you don't play chess.

But for me, I find it intriguing that there may be some other kind of chess, in which women have a natural advantage and distinguished male players have to accept the title mistress, national mistress, international mistress or grandmistress.


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Postby Southern Knight » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:46 pm

Erm, no, they aren't.
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I originally thought this thread was a joke. It hurt me when I found out the harsh truth.

No, they aren't.
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Postby Virtannis » Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:14 am

Wait, is this serious?
The whole point of sex robots are that.... well.... they are robots, not people, they are not objectified as they are well.... literally objects :eyebrow:
In fact, it might help DECREASE sexual violence perhaps, because more people would be able to have sex whenever they want with convincing replicas of the real thing.

Plus, on top of that, banning something which causes to harm to any individual is wrong, and sex bots do not harm anyone.
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Vissegaard wrote:I originally thought this thread was a joke. It hurt me when I found out the harsh truth.

No, they aren't.


Virtannis wrote:Wait, is this serious?
The whole point of sex robots are that.... well.... they are robots, not people, they are not objectified as they are well.... literally objects :eyebrow:
In fact, it might help DECREASE sexual violence perhaps, because more people would be able to have sex whenever they want with convincing replicas of the real thing.

Plus, on top of that, banning something which causes to harm to any individual is wrong, and sex bots do not harm anyone.


First: the thread is serious, it's not a joke. You have just to read the link provided in OP to understand it's serious.
Second: I know robots are objects, but since such robots would be shaped EXACTLY like a woman, their users would be VERY encourage to see (and to treat!) women as objects. That's the whole point of Lydia Kaye
http://campaignagainstsexrobots.org/201 ... -of-women/

Anti-pornography scholar Gail Dines argues that the dominant images and stories distributed by the porn industry promote and legitimise a gender system that undermines equality and encourages violence against women. Pornographers exploit the degradation of the female body. These often extreme and violent images lead to distorted notions of sex and relationships.

The creation of sex robots would make these images and relations viewed in porn tangible to the viewer by putting a faux female sex worker in front of them. The sex robot will be used by its owner in the same way women are used in pornography. Due to the humanlike appearance of the sex robot, the concern is that the user will begin to see sex with robots and sex with humans as an interchangeable physical act. This would result in the same sexual objectification present in porn and sex work ultimately penetrating human relationships and human sex.

Sex robots will create another means through which women will be presented as objects to be used for sexual gratification and mistreatment. They will also desensitise humans to intimacy and empathy, which can only be developed through experiencing human interaction and mutual consenting relationships.


Gail Dines is a very famous Feminist scholar
http://gaildines.com/

Dr. Gail Dines is a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston, an internationally acclaimed speaker, author, and a feminist public intellectual.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:50 am

Chessmistress wrote:
Vissegaard wrote:I originally thought this thread was a joke. It hurt me when I found out the harsh truth.

No, they aren't.


Virtannis wrote:Wait, is this serious?
The whole point of sex robots are that.... well.... they are robots, not people, they are not objectified as they are well.... literally objects :eyebrow:
In fact, it might help DECREASE sexual violence perhaps, because more people would be able to have sex whenever they want with convincing replicas of the real thing.

Plus, on top of that, banning something which causes to harm to any individual is wrong, and sex bots do not harm anyone.


First: the thread is serious, it's not a joke. You have just to read the link provided in OP to understand it's serious.
Second: I know robots are objects, but since such robots would be shaped EXACTLY like a woman, their users would be VERY encourage to see (and to treat!) women as objects. That's the whole point of Lydia Kaye
http://campaignagainstsexrobots.org/201 ... -of-women/

Anti-pornography scholar Gail Dines argues that the dominant images and stories distributed by the porn industry promote and legitimise a gender system that undermines equality and encourages violence against women. Pornographers exploit the degradation of the female body. These often extreme and violent images lead to distorted notions of sex and relationships.

The creation of sex robots would make these images and relations viewed in porn tangible to the viewer by putting a faux female sex worker in front of them. The sex robot will be used by its owner in the same way women are used in pornography. Due to the humanlike appearance of the sex robot, the concern is that the user will begin to see sex with robots and sex with humans as an interchangeable physical act. This would result in the same sexual objectification present in porn and sex work ultimately penetrating human relationships and human sex.

Sex robots will create another means through which women will be presented as objects to be used for sexual gratification and mistreatment. They will also desensitise humans to intimacy and empathy, which can only be developed through experiencing human interaction and mutual consenting relationships.


Gail Dines is a very famous Feminist scholar
http://gaildines.com/

Dr. Gail Dines is a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston, an internationally acclaimed speaker, author, and a feminist public intellectual.

You realise that not all robots are shaped like women right?
You're also aware that sex robots can be shaped like men as well?
Would you also wish to ban male shaped sex robots?
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Chessmistress wrote:
Vissegaard wrote:I originally thought this thread was a joke. It hurt me when I found out the harsh truth.

No, they aren't.


Virtannis wrote:Wait, is this serious?
The whole point of sex robots are that.... well.... they are robots, not people, they are not objectified as they are well.... literally objects :eyebrow:
In fact, it might help DECREASE sexual violence perhaps, because more people would be able to have sex whenever they want with convincing replicas of the real thing.

Plus, on top of that, banning something which causes to harm to any individual is wrong, and sex bots do not harm anyone.


First: the thread is serious, it's not a joke. You have just to read the link provided in OP to understand it's serious.
Second: I know robots are objects, but since such robots would be shaped EXACTLY like a woman, their users would be VERY encourage to see (and to treat!) women as objects. That's the whole point of Lydia Kaye
http://campaignagainstsexrobots.org/201 ... -of-women/

Anti-pornography scholar Gail Dines argues that the dominant images and stories distributed by the porn industry promote and legitimise a gender system that undermines equality and encourages violence against women. Pornographers exploit the degradation of the female body. These often extreme and violent images lead to distorted notions of sex and relationships.

The creation of sex robots would make these images and relations viewed in porn tangible to the viewer by putting a faux female sex worker in front of them. The sex robot will be used by its owner in the same way women are used in pornography. Due to the humanlike appearance of the sex robot, the concern is that the user will begin to see sex with robots and sex with humans as an interchangeable physical act. This would result in the same sexual objectification present in porn and sex work ultimately penetrating human relationships and human sex.

Sex robots will create another means through which women will be presented as objects to be used for sexual gratification and mistreatment. They will also desensitise humans to intimacy and empathy, which can only be developed through experiencing human interaction and mutual consenting relationships.


Gail Dines is a very famous Feminist scholar
http://gaildines.com/

Dr. Gail Dines is a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston, an internationally acclaimed speaker, author, and a feminist public intellectual.

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Postby New Benian Republic » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:59 am

Alvecia wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:


First: the thread is serious, it's not a joke. You have just to read the link provided in OP to understand it's serious.
Second: I know robots are objects, but since such robots would be shaped EXACTLY like a woman, their users would be VERY encourage to see (and to treat!) women as objects. That's the whole point of Lydia Kaye
http://campaignagainstsexrobots.org/201 ... -of-women/



Gail Dines is a very famous Feminist scholar
http://gaildines.com/


You realise that not all robots are shaped like women right?
You're also aware that sex robots can be shaped like men as well?
Would you also wish to ban male shaped sex robots?

They can also be shaped like dinosaurs, potatoes and textbooks.
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Postby Liberphone » Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:37 am

No, not at all.
I use this one on my phone.

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Postby Liberphone » Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:44 am

Gauthier wrote:Being lectured on the immorality of sex toys by someone who "chose" to be a lesbian out of politics (i.e. pulling an Anne Heche). Something something pot something something kettle.

Wait, what?
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Postby Agerland » Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:53 am

Chessmistress wrote:
Vissegaard wrote:I originally thought this thread was a joke. It hurt me when I found out the harsh truth.

No, they aren't.


Virtannis wrote:Wait, is this serious?
The whole point of sex robots are that.... well.... they are robots, not people, they are not objectified as they are well.... literally objects :eyebrow:
In fact, it might help DECREASE sexual violence perhaps, because more people would be able to have sex whenever they want with convincing replicas of the real thing.

Plus, on top of that, banning something which causes to harm to any individual is wrong, and sex bots do not harm anyone.


First: the thread is serious, it's not a joke. You have just to read the link provided in OP to understand it's serious.
Second: I know robots are objects, but since such robots would be shaped EXACTLY like a woman, their users would be VERY encourage to see (and to treat!) women as objects. That's the whole point of Lydia Kaye
http://campaignagainstsexrobots.org/201 ... -of-women/

Anti-pornography scholar Gail Dines argues that the dominant images and stories distributed by the porn industry promote and legitimise a gender system that undermines equality and encourages violence against women. Pornographers exploit the degradation of the female body. These often extreme and violent images lead to distorted notions of sex and relationships.

The creation of sex robots would make these images and relations viewed in porn tangible to the viewer by putting a faux female sex worker in front of them. The sex robot will be used by its owner in the same way women are used in pornography. Due to the humanlike appearance of the sex robot, the concern is that the user will begin to see sex with robots and sex with humans as an interchangeable physical act. This would result in the same sexual objectification present in porn and sex work ultimately penetrating human relationships and human sex.

Sex robots will create another means through which women will be presented as objects to be used for sexual gratification and mistreatment. They will also desensitise humans to intimacy and empathy, which can only be developed through experiencing human interaction and mutual consenting relationships.


Gail Dines is a very famous Feminist scholar
http://gaildines.com/

Dr. Gail Dines is a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston, an internationally acclaimed speaker, author, and a feminist public intellectual.

I legitimately cannot remember having heard anything more ludicrous off the top of my head. Contrary to your belief, men are not dumb, sex-crazed gorillas whose minds devolve to chimp level the moment intercourse becomes involved.
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Postby Chessmistress » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:01 pm

Alvecia wrote:You realise that not all robots are shaped like women right?
You're also aware that sex robots can be shaped like men as well?
Would you also wish to ban male shaped sex robots?


Yes.
I also realise you didn't bother to read the OP.
Again
http://campaignagainstsexrobots.org/201 ... -of-women/

There is of course another very important side to this argument that concerns the creation of male sex robots for the use of women, and the homosexual use of sex robots, which are essential layers to this debate to be discussed. Men, women and children all have a right to have their subjectivity recognised and should not be presented as a ‘thing’ to be used, discriminated against, or coerced.

However, what cannot be denied is that sex robots, like most of the technology we use today, have predominantly been designed and created by men and with male users in mind. At present the technology industry is undeniably male dominated. This is a fact visible from the top down, from workers and investors, to owners and creators.

Men are also the main users and buyers of pornography and prostituted persons.

This has resulted in sex robots being modelled on the appearance of porn stars and prostitutes and consequently inheriting the same roles.


Liberphone wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Being lectured on the immorality of sex toys by someone who "chose" to be a lesbian out of politics (i.e. pulling an Anne Heche). Something something pot something something kettle.

Wait, what?


Sex toys, aka dildos and fleshlights, are not mentioned.
The issue is about sex robots, just only sex robots.
Gail Dines is NOT a political lesbian.
I don't know if Lydia Kaye is a political lesbian, I guess she isn't: her other articles seems to be strongly focused on heterosexuality.
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