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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:24 pm
by Genivaria
I don't really trust the Dailymail.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:25 pm
by Khadgar
Daily Mail is not a source.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:25 pm
by Alyakia
to play devils advocate, can you think of any reason why, in addition to cutting it up or burning it, having sex with the body of a person who pre-authortized it should be illegal beyond "eww"? who is the victim of this crime?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:26 pm
by Stoic Melancholics
Genivaria wrote:I don't really trust the Dailymail.


Cry us a river, they're capable of producing both garbage and fact. In this case, it's just fact.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:26 pm
by Narintia

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:27 pm
by Genivaria
Stoic Melancholics wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I don't really trust the Dailymail.


Cry us a river, they're capable of producing both garbage and fact. In this case, it's just fact.

Provide a legit source then.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:27 pm
by Des-Bal
Why not?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:27 pm
by Stoic Melancholics
Khadgar wrote:Daily Mail is not a source.


The double standards are strong here.

As opposed to addressing the point, and the fact that the OP has posted more than one source, it's more convenient to whine about the Daily Mail. That's not debate, that's childish.

Furthermore, few right wingers here say "wah HuffPost isn't a source", so id hope that the other side can respect most sources, regardless of their political slant. I acknowledge that the Daily Mail isn't perfect, but can we stop with this "Wahh Daily Mail" evil nonsense?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm
by Stoic Melancholics
Genivaria wrote:
Stoic Melancholics wrote:
Cry us a river, they're capable of producing both garbage and fact. In this case, it's just fact.

Provide a legit source then.


The OP already did, from a Swedish paper.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm
by Redsection
Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm
by Alyakia
Stoic Melancholics wrote:
Khadgar wrote:Daily Mail is not a source.


The double standards are strong here.

As opposed to addressing the point, and the fact that the OP has posted more than one source, it's more convenient to whine about the Daily Mail. That's not debate, that's childish.

Furthermore, few right wingers here say "wah HuffPost isn't the source", so id hope that the other side can respect most sources, regardless of their political slant. I acknowledge that the Daily Mail isn't perfect, but can we stop with this "Wahh Daily Mail" evil nonsense?


hurrah for the blackshirts

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm
by Visegradian Poland
IT'S JUST A SEXUAL ORIENTATION GUEHUEHUE
DAILY MAIL IS NOT A SOURCE HUUEEEEEE

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm
by Des-Bal
Redsection wrote:Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...


Yeah it's gross. Still, why not?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm
by Zoice
Sure, why the hell not.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm
by Sanctissima
Pommerstan wrote:
The youth wing of the Swedish Liberal party has filed a motion to legalize necrophilia and incest

They want to legalize sex between two consenting siblings over the age of 15, and sex with a corpse if there is a written permission made before the person died.

'We don't like morality laws in general, and this legislation is not protecting anyone right now,' Cecilia Johnsson, Liberal Youth chairperson in Stockholm told Aftonbladet.

'We are a youth wing and one of our tasks is to think one step further.

It also said that if a person has stated in a written will that they consent to someone having sex with their corpse, this should also be legal.

'It should be your own decision what happens with your body after you die, and if that happens to be that you want to bequeath your remains to a museum or to science, or if you want to bequeath your remains to someone to sleep with them, then that should be ok,' Ms Johnsson adds.



Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... enior.html
Since it is from the Daily Mail I shall post from swedish mainstream media because it was the only english source I could find: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article22305329.ab

I personally do not agree with this and think it is to bit far. So, what the NSG audience say about this proposal? Should necropfilia and incest be legalised?


I'm not going to lie, I think it's weird. But... to each their own.

As for necrophilia, if there's a written statement saying that's what they want to be done with their body, then I guess it's fine. Bit too sexually deviant for my tastes, but if that's what they wanted...

Then again, there's some obvious health concerns, like the corpse decomposing not long after death, so there's really only a couple of days that there can be, well, necrophiliac relations before it becomes unsanitary.

The incest thing is fine too, I guess. If they're both of age and that's what they both want...

That being said, there's the obvious risk of inbreeding, which should not by any means occur. Unless one of them happens to be sterile, I'd say that the incest part should remain illegal, given the risks of potential offspring.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm
by Visegradian Poland
Des-Bal wrote:
Redsection wrote:Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...


Yeah it's gross. Still, why not?


Because it's gross.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm
by Dejanic
Redsection wrote:Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...

The Swedish Liberal party are centre-right, not Leftist.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm
by Khadgar
Genivaria wrote:
Stoic Melancholics wrote:
Cry us a river, they're capable of producing both garbage and fact. In this case, it's just fact.

Provide a legit source then.


Preferably one in English. If this is true you'd think someone would be talking about it other than a tabloid and what appears to be a foreign language tabloid.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm
by UIJ
Hey, human will do what humans do. And if they want to cuddle with a dead body on those lonely nights, and relative, whatever. Just don't have children. I'm probably the most relaxed person on NS. You can do who ever you want in my eyes.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm
by Zurkerx
I don't have a problem with this.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm
by Stoic Melancholics
Alyakia wrote:
Stoic Melancholics wrote:
The double standards are strong here.

As opposed to addressing the point, and the fact that the OP has posted more than one source, it's more convenient to whine about the Daily Mail. That's not debate, that's childish.

Furthermore, few right wingers here say "wah HuffPost isn't the source", so id hope that the other side can respect most sources, regardless of their political slant. I acknowledge that the Daily Mail isn't perfect, but can we stop with this "Wahh Daily Mail" evil nonsense?


hurrah for the blackshirts


Hurrah for strawmen!

We can play this petulant game all day, or we can talk about this legislation, particularly on how it may affect Swedish society.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm
by Genivaria
Visegradian Poland wrote:IT'S JUST A SEXUAL ORIENTATION GUEHUEHUE
DAILY MAIL IS NOT A SOURCE HUUEEEEEE

Nor is mockery a legitimate argument.
Also I didn't realize that sexual orientation was even relevant to this discussion.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm
by Visegradian Poland
Can't this spread disease?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm
by Des-Bal
Visegradian Poland wrote:Because it's gross.


I don't consider that a valid reason.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm
by Redsection
Des-Bal wrote:
Redsection wrote:Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...


Yeah it's gross. Still, why not?


It's disgusting and immoral .....