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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:18 am
by Hirota
Given Swedens predisposition towards demanding ongoing consent in rape cases, how precisely does a corpse provide that? :blink:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:19 am
by Gauthier
Hirota wrote:Given Swedens predisposition towards demanding ongoing consent in rape cases, how precisely does a corpse provide that? :blink:


Zombies can consent, duh.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:35 am
by Ifreann
Hirota wrote:Given Swedens predisposition towards demanding ongoing consent in rape cases, how precisely does a corpse provide that? :blink:

How does a vibrator?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:58 am
by The Texan Union
Would I be taking a leap in saying that everyone here that agrees with necrophilia is also okay with bestiality? Just a question, because that's certainly next if this is legalized.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:59 am
by Ifreann
The Texan Union wrote:Would I be taking a leap in saying that everyone here that agrees with necrophilia is also okay with bestiality? Just a question, because that's certainly next if this is legalized.

Like how legalising gay marriage was sure to lead to people marrying their toasters?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:59 am
by Genivaria
Hirota wrote:Given Swedens predisposition towards demanding ongoing consent in rape cases, how precisely does a corpse provide that? :blink:

It doesn't.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:00 am
by Southern Bardarus
Guys, can't we just stop arguing and instead agree that Incest and Necrophilia are bad things?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:03 am
by Lamaredia
Southern Bardarus wrote:Guys, can't we just stop arguing and instead agree that Incest and Necrophilia are bad things?

Why are they necessarily bad things? Sure, they're gross, but the only argument about it being bad is from a purely personal moral standpoint.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:05 am
by Ifreann
Southern Bardarus wrote:Guys, can't we just stop arguing and instead agree that Incest and Necrophilia are bad things?

I have an alternative proposal. We stop arguing and instead agree that incest and necrophilia aren't necessarily bad things.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:11 am
by The Texan Union
Ifreann wrote:
The Texan Union wrote:Would I be taking a leap in saying that everyone here that agrees with necrophilia is also okay with bestiality? Just a question, because that's certainly next if this is legalized.

Like how legalising gay marriage was sure to lead to people marrying their toasters?

No, no, no. Homosexuals are people, that's fine. Incest? Disgusting, but between two adults: fine.

Necrophilia? Corpses are no longer people. They're a vessel that once contained a human life. Not an object for sexual desire.

And since animal's are property, then why not, right? And if necrophilia is socially acceptable, the human body is no longer sacred. Thus, we can do what we want, how we want. Sexually speaking. Isn't that how most people think these days?

It's a slippery slope, as they say.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:19 am
by Ifreann
The Texan Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Like how legalising gay marriage was sure to lead to people marrying their toasters?

No, no, no. Homosexuals are people, that's fine. Incest? Disgusting, but between two adults: fine.

Necrophilia? Corpses are no longer people. They're a vessel that once contained a human life. Not an object for sexual desire.

And since animal's are property, then why not, right? And if necrophilia is socially acceptable, the human body is no longer sacred. Thus, we can do what we want, how we want. Sexually speaking. Isn't that how most people think these days?

No, not really. But feel free to ignore that if it facilitates your pearl-clutching.

It's a slippery slope, as they say.

Slippery slope fallacy, sure.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:21 am
by The Texan Union
Ifreann wrote:
The Texan Union wrote:No, no, no. Homosexuals are people, that's fine. Incest? Disgusting, but between two adults: fine.

Necrophilia? Corpses are no longer people. They're a vessel that once contained a human life. Not an object for sexual desire.

And since animal's are property, then why not, right? And if necrophilia is socially acceptable, the human body is no longer sacred. Thus, we can do what we want, how we want. Sexually speaking. Isn't that how most people think these days?

No, not really. But feel free to ignore that if it facilitates your pearl-clutching.

It's a slippery slope, as they say.

Slippery slope fallacy, sure.

You never answered my question. Are you, or are you not okay with bestiality?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:23 am
by San Lumen
Why in earth would you want to make Necrophilia or Incest legal? Necrophilia is just plain gross and incest can lead to serious birth defects and trauma. What's next Bestiality? That's just plain disgusting too and people who claim attraction to animals are mentally ill and I believe the American Psychiatric Association classifies it as such.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:29 am
by Ifreann
The Texan Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No, not really. But feel free to ignore that if it facilitates your pearl-clutching.


Slippery slope fallacy, sure.

You never answered my question. Are you, or are you not okay with bestiality?

I'm not okay with it.

Now what? Is society still doomed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:31 am
by Ifreann
San Lumen wrote:Why in earth would you want to make Necrophilia or Incest legal?

Do you actually want to know, or do you just want to freak out about people having that opinion?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:33 am
by The Texan Union
San Lumen wrote:Why in earth would you want to make Necrophilia or Incest legal? Necrophilia is just plain gross and incest can lead to serious birth defects and trauma. What's next Bestiality? That's just plain disgusting too and people who claim attraction to animals are mentally ill and I believe the American Psychiatric Association classifies it as such.

Fun Fact:

Since abnormal psychology is defined as "The branch of psychology that studies unusual patterns of behavior, emotion and thought, which may or may not be understood as precipitating a mental disorder. Although many behaviours could be considered as abnormal, this branch of psychology generally deals with behavior in a clinical context.", would that mean that once a certain unusual behavior becomes common place it is no longer an abnormality? And thus, widespread psychological disorders would eventually effect virtually the entire human population. And when everyone has it we laugh at the thought that it ever was an abnormality, not realizing how sick we all truly are. :meh:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:33 am
by Zocra
Oh Sweden. :roll:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:33 am
by The Texan Union
Ifreann wrote:
The Texan Union wrote:You never answered my question. Are you, or are you not okay with bestiality?

I'm not okay with it.

Now what? Is society still doomed?

What's wrong with it?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:35 am
by Ifreann
The Texan Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm not okay with it.

Now what? Is society still doomed?

What's wrong with it?

You never answered my questions.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:40 am
by The Texan Union
Ifreann wrote:
The Texan Union wrote:What's wrong with it?

You never answered my questions.

What questions? "Now what?" and "Is society still doomed?"?

Because that's easy:
"Now what?" Now, tell me: What is wrong with bestiality?

"Is society still doomed?" Society will always be doomed, but that's not the point.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:45 am
by Serrian
As usual,

Who gives a flying fuck what people want to do privately? Assuming that both consent and are aware of the risks, incest is... not really an issue. As long as they don't go around screaming their pride about the matter, but that can apply to any sexual preference.

As for necrophilia? I'm a huge advocate for the right to die and, by extension, the right to choose what happens to one's body after death. Including, if one should wish, to have their body... remain with their lover.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:49 am
by Ifreann
The Texan Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You never answered my questions.

What questions? "Now what?" and "Is society still doomed?"?

Because that's easy:
"Now what?" Now, tell me: What is wrong with bestiality?

Obviously it's cruel to animals. But why are you asking? Your assertion that people will support bestiality has been shown wrong. Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.

"Is society still doomed?" Society will always be doomed, but that's not the point.

It certainly seems like the point. What is the point meant to be, if not that?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:55 am
by The Texan Union
Ifreann wrote:
The Texan Union wrote:What questions? "Now what?" and "Is society still doomed?"?

Because that's easy:
"Now what?" Now, tell me: What is wrong with bestiality?

Obviously it's cruel to animals. But why are you asking?


So, animals are held more sacred than the body of a human being? Okay.
Your assertion that people will support bestiality has been shown wrong. Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.


I never said I expected people to support bestiality. Read that again.
"Is society still doomed?" Society will always be doomed, but that's not the point.

It certainly seems like the point. What is the point meant to be, if not that?[/quote]

The point is that one's opinion regarding what is done with the human body is just that: opinion. And law should not be influenced by opinions.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:00 am
by Arioslavia
Disgusting and disgraceful. But Sweden is heading towards cultural suicide for a long time so no surprise :p

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:07 am
by Coalition of Minor Planets
San Lumen wrote:Why in earth would you want to make Necrophilia or Incest legal? Necrophilia is just plain gross and incest can lead to serious birth defects and trauma. What's next Bestiality? That's just plain disgusting too and people who claim attraction to animals are mentally ill and I believe the American Psychiatric Association classifies it as such.


Since there is no good reason for it to remain illegal. Your idea of gross should not dictate law. Many people find sex with a female gross. Others find sex with a male gross. Sex with obese people? Many find that gross. Sex with elderly people? Pretty gross. Sex with Donald Trump....do you even want to think about that?