Swedish Liberals want to legalise necrophilia and incest

[Gauthier]

Only real reason this got attention was it stroked the confirmation biases of people who insist Sweden is a degenerate rapetastic Islamic state.

I think there's meant to be something about cuckoos too.

And something about sheds where white Swedish men go to cry while endowed black and brown foreigners do their wives.

[Ifreann]

I think there's meant to be something about cuckoos too.

And something about sheds where white Swedish men go to cry while endowed black and brown foreigners do their wives.

Black and tans, you say?

[Gauthier]

And something about sheds where white Swedish men go to cry while endowed black and brown foreigners do their wives.

Black and tans, you say?

Why else would the Swedish men be in the toolsheds crying?

[Ifreann]

Black and tans, you say?

Why else would the Swedish men be in the toolsheds crying?

Foolish Swedes. Everyone knows you're meant to challenge the Black and Tans to come and fight you like a man.

[The Salian Realm]

Why else would the Swedish men be in the toolsheds crying?

Foolish Swedes. Everyone knows you're meant to challenge the Black and Tans to come and fight you like a man.

nah, sexual prowess is best! It makes big moneys for Muricans! tiocfaidh ar la!

[Free Bretagne]

This is the kind of complete moral degeneracy that liberalism gives us.

[Alvecia]

This is the kind of complete moral degeneracy that liberalism gives us.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man

[Fartsniffage]

This is the kind of complete moral degeneracy that liberalism gives us.

Right-wing political party mate.

[Alvecia]

This is the kind of complete moral degeneracy that liberalism gives us.

Right-wing political party mate.

Huh, I didn't actually know that.

The Liberal Youth of Sweden (Swedish: Liberala ungdomsförbundet, LUF) is the youth wing of the Swedish Liberal People's Party (Swedish: Folkpartiet liberalerna).

While the party historically was positioned in the centre of the Swedish political landscape, willing to cooperate with both the political left and the right, it has since the leaderships of Lars Leijonborg and Jan Björklund in the 2000s become more conservative and positioned itself clearly on the right.

[Need a Name]

While I can't really think of an argument against necrophilia besides "EEEEEWWWWW" the incest part of the legislation I find despicable. Sex has absolutely no place in a family. Except between the parents but you get what I mean.

[Ifreann]

While I can't really think of an argument against necrophilia besides "EEEEEWWWWW" the incest part of the legislation I find despicable. Sex has absolutely no place in a family. Except between the parents but you get what I mean.

That's pretty much the same argument against incest as against necrophilia, just with more words.

[Wallenburg]

While I can't really think of an argument against necrophilia besides "EEEEEWWWWW" the incest part of the legislation I find despicable. Sex has absolutely no place in a family. Except between the parents but you get what I mean.

Replace "in a family" with "between two men". Is that still an acceptable argument to you?

[Narintia]

Actually in Sweden it is a bit different. Every ideology in Sweden is more toward left than its european counterparts. The "conservative" Moderate Party for instance allowed mass immigration to Sweden and flexibiled the laws so migrants cannot be deported.

Is Sweden a weird country?

No. The conservative CDU of Germany, same policies. The conservative RPR/Républicains of France, same policies. The conservative PdL/Forza Italia of Italy, same policies. The conservative EPP/PPE-led EU Commission and Parliament, same policies. It's just that only fascistoid, anti-european parties in Europe such as Italy's Lega Nord, France's Front National, Britain's BNP, Sweden's Sverigedemokraterna support xenophobia.

Sverigedemokraterna? They aren't xenophobic at all!

[Calimera II]

Homosexuality is not the same as incest.

Call me 'conservative' whatsoever, but I think that allowing incest is crossing the so-called, badly defined, general border of acceptance. *Yuck*

If I remember correctly, you currently live in the Netherlands? Guess what's 100% legal there?

Does it matter?

If you were Chinese and the debate would be about the death penalty I wouldn't come up with oneliners such as: ''Guess what's 100% legal over there?''

[Calimera II]

Homosexuality is not the same as incest.

Call me 'conservative' whatsoever, but I think that allowing incest is crossing the so-called, badly defined, general border of acceptance. *Yuck*

Also... Not necrophilia?

... WTF.

Wat. '

I didn't even give my opinion about necrophilia (something which I do find disgusting).

[Kvatchdom]

Absolutely not. Not only would this infuriate and give more cannon fodder to the ever rising far-right of Sweden, there is no reason to legalize either. A dead body cannot consent. Incest causes issues with children.

[Ifreann]

Absolutely not. Not only would this infuriate and give more cannon fodder to the ever rising far-right of Sweden, there is no reason to legalize either. A dead body cannot consent.

A person, however, can set out in their will how they would like their body disposed of when they die. We can give our bodies over to medical students or scientists, we can have our organs harvested, we can arrange to be buried, or cremated, or buried at sea, or cremated and launched into space or any number of other things. Why all those things, but not sex? Because that would be gross?

Incest causes issues with children.

First of all, no it doesn't. Inbreeding, especially over several generations, can be a problem, but incest does not necessarily lead to Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel. Second of all, it is hypocritical to prohibit incest on the grounds of potential genetic disorders in any resulting children, but to permit sex between any other two people who might have a child with a genetic disorder. And while I'm sure there are people who just love the idea of banning some people from having kids based on their genetics, that's a bit too Hitler for most of us to support.

[Allanea]

Absolutely not. Not only would this infuriate and give more cannon fodder to the ever rising far-right of Sweden, there is no reason to legalize either. A dead body cannot consent. Incest causes issues with children.

And both of these issues were addressed extensively in the thread.

[Ashlak]

Absolutely not. Not only would this infuriate and give more cannon fodder to the ever rising far-right of Sweden, there is no reason to legalize either. A dead body cannot consent.

A person, however, can set out in their will how they would like their body disposed of when they die. We can give our bodies over to medical students or scientists, we can have our organs harvested, we can arrange to be buried, or cremated, or buried at sea, or cremated and launched into space or any number of other things. Why all those things, but not sex? Because that would be gross?

Incest causes issues with children.

First of all, no it doesn't. Inbreeding, especially over several generations, can be a problem, but incest does not necessarily lead to Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel. Second of all, it is hypocritical to prohibit incest on the grounds of potential genetic disorders in any resulting children, but to permit sex between any other two people who might have a child with a genetic disorder. And while I'm sure there are people who just love the idea of banning some people from having kids based on their genetics, that's a bit too Hitler for most of us to support.

We allow people some choices for corpse disposal because disposing of the corpse is a necessity. There are laws governing how dead bodies are to be treated, we don't allow people to just fuck around with dead bodies for teh lolz.

Sure, but if incest is normalized, you'll start getting Cletus's over time. Hell, even cousin marriages, if they happen too often,cause problems.

[Allanea]

So again, Joey and Harry the gay brothers should be barred from doing it because you're afraid they'll cause inbred offspring?

[Ifreann]

A person, however, can set out in their will how they would like their body disposed of when they die. We can give our bodies over to medical students or scientists, we can have our organs harvested, we can arrange to be buried, or cremated, or buried at sea, or cremated and launched into space or any number of other things. Why all those things, but not sex? Because that would be gross?

First of all, no it doesn't. Inbreeding, especially over several generations, can be a problem, but incest does not necessarily lead to Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel. Second of all, it is hypocritical to prohibit incest on the grounds of potential genetic disorders in any resulting children, but to permit sex between any other two people who might have a child with a genetic disorder. And while I'm sure there are people who just love the idea of banning some people from having kids based on their genetics, that's a bit too Hitler for most of us to support.

We allow people some choices for corpse disposal because disposing of the corpse is a necessity. There are laws governing how dead bodies are to be treated, we don't allow people to just fuck around with dead bodies for teh lolz.

Sure, decomposing corpses are a public health hazard. I don't think necrophilia would be.

Sure, but if incest is normalized, you'll start getting Cletus's over time. Hell, even cousin marriages, if they happen too often,cause problems.

Yes, that's what I said. I then went on to point out how we do not restrict any other people from having sex on the same grounds.

[Rossene]

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[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Homosexuality is not the same as incest.

Call me 'conservative' whatsoever, but I think that allowing incest is crossing the so-called, badly defined, general border of acceptance. *Yuck*

Nobody is equalling the two. I'm just asking, to those who oppose incest based on risk of genetic diseases on offspring, whether they'd be ok if the partners were of the same sex as in this instance there would be no offspring.

The risk of a child having Down's syndrome increases after a woman gets to 40, and that is really non-controversial, so I guess health risk is not really a primary factor in our disgust.

[Gauthier]

Homosexuality is not the same as incest.

Call me 'conservative' whatsoever, but I think that allowing incest is crossing the so-called, badly defined, general border of acceptance. *Yuck*

Nobody is equalling the two. I'm just asking, to those who oppose incest based on risk of genetic diseases on offspring, whether they'd be ok if the partners were of the same sex as in this instance there would be no offspring.

If anything it should be opposed on opening the possibility of legal shenanigans, like that one millionaire who killed someone driving and tried to hide his money by adopting his girlfriend/mistress as his daughter so she'd get it all.

[Wallenburg]

Nobody is equalling the two. I'm just asking, to those who oppose incest based on risk of genetic diseases on offspring, whether they'd be ok if the partners were of the same sex as in this instance there would be no offspring.

If anything it should be opposed on opening the possibility of legal shenanigans, like that one millionaire who killed someone driving and tried to hide his money by adopting his girlfriend/mistress as his daughter so she'd get it all.

I don't think anyone is going to support the legalization of what otherwise would be murder just because someone has the intention of fucking the corpse afterwards.