Syrixia wrote:Bang whoever you wanna bang. Your rights, your dong, and your inbreeding consequences.
Inbreeding, or maggots in horrible places. Depends on whether the object of sexual desire is alive or not.
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by New DeCapito » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:51 pm
Syrixia wrote:Bang whoever you wanna bang. Your rights, your dong, and your inbreeding consequences.
by Des-Bal » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:52 pm
Latlandia wrote:Where did I mentioned all libetals in general?? I was talking about THOSE Swedish liberals what is this thread about. Of course, someone is always pissed off.
About the govenment fucking off, I suggest anarchy. Anyone can use heavy drugs, steal, kill people and basically do everything that`s illegal. Government is needed to keep things normal.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Coalition of Minor Planets » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:56 pm
Aelex wrote:Coalition of Minor Planets wrote:So, lacking a reason to be illegal, they should go ahead and get rid of laws against it....which would mean it would be legal
If there is no law stopping you from marrying your cat, it's thus not illegal.
But if there is no law letting you do it neither, it's thus not legal.
Incest should stay in this middle-state, in this "limbo", where it's kind of a loophole and neither expressively accepted nor forbidden.
by Hjallaland » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:00 pm
Ifreann wrote:Obviously it's cruel to animals. But why are you asking? Your assertion that people will support bestiality has been shown wrong. Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
by Latlandia » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:14 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Latlandia wrote:Where did I mentioned all libetals in general?? I was talking about THOSE Swedish liberals what is this thread about. Of course, someone is always pissed off.
About the govenment fucking off, I suggest anarchy. Anyone can use heavy drugs, steal, kill people and basically do everything that`s illegal. Government is needed to keep things normal.
You attributed this to Swedish Liberal necrophiliacs who practice incest. I'm none of those things. I'd say that the reason I don't tell the government to fuck off in every single regard is precisely because I don't support anarchy. But anarchy isn't the question of this thread. Why don't you tell me exactly why people shouldn't be allowed to have consensual sex with dead bodies and relatives to their depraved hearts content?
by Allanea » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:15 pm
Latlandia wrote:Des-Bal wrote:
You attributed this to Swedish Liberal necrophiliacs who practice incest. I'm none of those things. I'd say that the reason I don't tell the government to fuck off in every single regard is precisely because I don't support anarchy. But anarchy isn't the question of this thread. Why don't you tell me exactly why people shouldn't be allowed to have consensual sex with dead bodies and relatives to their depraved hearts content?
Freedom... Then I have the freedom to express my political views too- I think necrophilia or incest are just weird and unacceptable. Period.
by Des-Bal » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:16 pm
Latlandia wrote:Freedom... Then I have the freedom to express my political views too- I think necrophilia or incest are just weird and unacceptable. Period.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Latlandia » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:17 pm
Allanea wrote:Latlandia wrote:Freedom... Then I have the freedom to express my political views too- I think necrophilia or incest are just weird and unacceptable. Period.
Let's see.
Suppose some guy has sex with his twin brother.
This guy gets arrested and put in prison.
I as taxpayer need to pay the bill for his prison term, and suffer from the economic damage that results from taking a man out of the workforce.
What is the benefit for me in doing so?
by Des-Bal » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:18 pm
Latlandia wrote:Yes, let`s free all the prisoners!
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Hjallaland » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:18 pm
Allanea wrote:Latlandia wrote:Freedom... Then I have the freedom to express my political views too- I think necrophilia or incest are just weird and unacceptable. Period.
Let's see.
Suppose some guy has sex with his twin brother.
This guy gets arrested and put in prison.
I as taxpayer need to pay the bill for his prison term, and suffer from the economic damage that results from taking a man out of the workforce.
What is the benefit for me in doing so?
by Allanea » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:20 pm
Latlandia wrote:Allanea wrote:
Let's see.
Suppose some guy has sex with his twin brother.
This guy gets arrested and put in prison.
I as taxpayer need to pay the bill for his prison term, and suffer from the economic damage that results from taking a man out of the workforce.
What is the benefit for me in doing so?
Yes, let`s free all the prisoners!
by Galloism » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:21 pm
Allanea wrote:Suppose some guy has sex with his twin brother.
by Hyggemata » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:21 pm
Coalition of Minor Planets wrote:Hyggemata wrote: I have been telling you that consent cannot be given when unconscious. LET IT BE KNOWN THAT CONSENT CANNOT BE GIVEN WHILE UNCONSCIOUS. If you have counterproof under Swedish law, let's see it. If you can legally construe a dead person to be conscious, let's also see it.
Which, if you had bothered to pay attention, has nothing to do with my statement. Giving consent while unconscious has exactly nothing to do with any of the arguments. You seem steadfastly intend on diverting towards irrelevancies.
Unfortunately, you also refuse to answer a question that you have yet to answer. Reading your mind has nothing to do with it. I only read your posts. If you don't post what you mean.....well that is firmly on you.
Allow me to ask you an even easier question: do you want such sex acts to be illegal or legal?
Conservative logic: every slope is a slippery slope.
Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
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by Allanea » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:23 pm
by Ayreonia » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:26 pm
by Galloism » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:27 pm
Ayreonia wrote:Incest, yeah, sure, as long as both parties are of age and consent (obviously). It's not like it being illegal stops people from doing it if they are so inclined.
Necrophilia, no, because of the obvious health hazards and the tiny little fact that dead people can't give consent.
by Des-Bal » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:28 pm
Ayreonia wrote:Incest, yeah, sure, as long as both parties are of age and consent (obviously). It's not like it being illegal stops people from doing it if they are so inclined.
Necrophilia, no, because of the obvious health hazards and the tiny little fact that dead people can't give consent.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Rostogovia » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:36 pm
Pommerstan wrote:The youth wing of the Swedish Liberal party has filed a motion to legalize necrophilia and incest
They want to legalize sex between two consenting siblings over the age of 15, and sex with a corpse if there is a written permission made before the person died.
'We don't like morality laws in general, and this legislation is not protecting anyone right now,' Cecilia Johnsson, Liberal Youth chairperson in Stockholm told Aftonbladet.
'We are a youth wing and one of our tasks is to think one step further.
It also said that if a person has stated in a written will that they consent to someone having sex with their corpse, this should also be legal.
'It should be your own decision what happens with your body after you die, and if that happens to be that you want to bequeath your remains to a museum or to science, or if you want to bequeath your remains to someone to sleep with them, then that should be ok,' Ms Johnsson adds.
Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... enior.html
Since it is from the Daily Mail I shall post from swedish mainstream media because it was the only english source I could find: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article22305329.ab
I personally do not agree with this and think it is to bit far. So, what the NSG audience say about this proposal? Should necropfilia and incest be legalised?
by Hjallaland » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:42 pm
Ayreonia wrote:Incest, yeah, sure, as long as both parties are of age and consent (obviously). It's not like it being illegal stops people from doing it if they are so inclined.
Necrophilia, no, because of the obvious health hazards and the tiny little fact that dead people can't give consent.
by Hjallaland » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:43 pm
Rostogovia wrote:Pommerstan wrote:
Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... enior.html
Since it is from the Daily Mail I shall post from swedish mainstream media because it was the only english source I could find: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article22305329.ab
I personally do not agree with this and think it is to bit far. So, what the NSG audience say about this proposal? Should necropfilia and incest be legalised?
I'd take it a step farther and say that nothing done to a corpse should be criminalized, regardless of whether there is consent. They're no longer persons after all, and hence cannot be victims. In all honesty however, the whole affair seems sort of irrelevant. I mean, how many necrophiles or incestuous people are there?
by Latlandia » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:48 pm
Allanea wrote:Even ignoring the ethical issue - government projects are generally things that are believed to be to the benefit of all society. Nobody would agree to just grab government money and give it to a random person because it benefits them.
What benefit is there to me, the taxpayer, for paying for the imprisonment of Tim and Joe the Gay Twin Lovers?
by Shofercia » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:48 pm
Pommerstan wrote:The youth wing of the Swedish Liberal party has filed a motion to legalize necrophilia and incest
They want to legalize sex between two consenting siblings over the age of 15, and sex with a corpse if there is a written permission made before the person died.
'We don't like morality laws in general, and this legislation is not protecting anyone right now,' Cecilia Johnsson, Liberal Youth chairperson in Stockholm told Aftonbladet.
'We are a youth wing and one of our tasks is to think one step further.
It also said that if a person has stated in a written will that they consent to someone having sex with their corpse, this should also be legal.
'It should be your own decision what happens with your body after you die, and if that happens to be that you want to bequeath your remains to a museum or to science, or if you want to bequeath your remains to someone to sleep with them, then that should be ok,' Ms Johnsson adds.
Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... enior.html
Since it is from the Daily Mail I shall post from swedish mainstream media because it was the only english source I could find: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article22305329.ab
I personally do not agree with this and think it is to bit far. So, what the NSG audience say about this proposal? Should necropfilia and incest be legalised?
by Coalition of Minor Planets » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:50 pm
Latlandia wrote:Allanea wrote:
Let's see.
Suppose some guy has sex with his twin brother.
This guy gets arrested and put in prison.
I as taxpayer need to pay the bill for his prison term, and suffer from the economic damage that results from taking a man out of the workforce.
What is the benefit for me in doing so?
Yes, let`s free all the prisoners!
by Latlandia » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:59 pm
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