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Postby Genivaria » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:24 pm

I don't really trust the Dailymail.
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:25 pm

Daily Mail is not a source.

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Postby Alyakia » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:25 pm

to play devils advocate, can you think of any reason why, in addition to cutting it up or burning it, having sex with the body of a person who pre-authortized it should be illegal beyond "eww"? who is the victim of this crime?
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Postby Stoic Melancholics » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:26 pm

Genivaria wrote:I don't really trust the Dailymail.


Cry us a river, they're capable of producing both garbage and fact. In this case, it's just fact.
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Postby Narintia » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:26 pm

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Stoic Melancholics wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I don't really trust the Dailymail.


Cry us a river, they're capable of producing both garbage and fact. In this case, it's just fact.

Provide a legit source then.
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:27 pm

Why not?
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Postby Stoic Melancholics » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:27 pm

Khadgar wrote:Daily Mail is not a source.


The double standards are strong here.

As opposed to addressing the point, and the fact that the OP has posted more than one source, it's more convenient to whine about the Daily Mail. That's not debate, that's childish.

Furthermore, few right wingers here say "wah HuffPost isn't a source", so id hope that the other side can respect most sources, regardless of their political slant. I acknowledge that the Daily Mail isn't perfect, but can we stop with this "Wahh Daily Mail" evil nonsense?
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Postby Stoic Melancholics » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Stoic Melancholics wrote:
Cry us a river, they're capable of producing both garbage and fact. In this case, it's just fact.

Provide a legit source then.


The OP already did, from a Swedish paper.
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Postby Redsection » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm

Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...
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Postby Alyakia » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm

Stoic Melancholics wrote:
Khadgar wrote:Daily Mail is not a source.


The double standards are strong here.

As opposed to addressing the point, and the fact that the OP has posted more than one source, it's more convenient to whine about the Daily Mail. That's not debate, that's childish.

Furthermore, few right wingers here say "wah HuffPost isn't the source", so id hope that the other side can respect most sources, regardless of their political slant. I acknowledge that the Daily Mail isn't perfect, but can we stop with this "Wahh Daily Mail" evil nonsense?


hurrah for the blackshirts
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm

IT'S JUST A SEXUAL ORIENTATION GUEHUEHUE
DAILY MAIL IS NOT A SOURCE HUUEEEEEE
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:28 pm

Redsection wrote:Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...


Yeah it's gross. Still, why not?
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Postby Zoice » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm

Sure, why the hell not.
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Postby Sanctissima » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm

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The youth wing of the Swedish Liberal party has filed a motion to legalize necrophilia and incest

They want to legalize sex between two consenting siblings over the age of 15, and sex with a corpse if there is a written permission made before the person died.

'We don't like morality laws in general, and this legislation is not protecting anyone right now,' Cecilia Johnsson, Liberal Youth chairperson in Stockholm told Aftonbladet.

'We are a youth wing and one of our tasks is to think one step further.

It also said that if a person has stated in a written will that they consent to someone having sex with their corpse, this should also be legal.

'It should be your own decision what happens with your body after you die, and if that happens to be that you want to bequeath your remains to a museum or to science, or if you want to bequeath your remains to someone to sleep with them, then that should be ok,' Ms Johnsson adds.



Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... enior.html
Since it is from the Daily Mail I shall post from swedish mainstream media because it was the only english source I could find: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article22305329.ab

I personally do not agree with this and think it is to bit far. So, what the NSG audience say about this proposal? Should necropfilia and incest be legalised?


I'm not going to lie, I think it's weird. But... to each their own.

As for necrophilia, if there's a written statement saying that's what they want to be done with their body, then I guess it's fine. Bit too sexually deviant for my tastes, but if that's what they wanted...

Then again, there's some obvious health concerns, like the corpse decomposing not long after death, so there's really only a couple of days that there can be, well, necrophiliac relations before it becomes unsanitary.

The incest thing is fine too, I guess. If they're both of age and that's what they both want...

That being said, there's the obvious risk of inbreeding, which should not by any means occur. Unless one of them happens to be sterile, I'd say that the incest part should remain illegal, given the risks of potential offspring.

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Postby Visegradian Poland » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Redsection wrote:Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...


Yeah it's gross. Still, why not?


Because it's gross.
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Postby Dejanic » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm

Redsection wrote:Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...

The Swedish Liberal party are centre-right, not Leftist.
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Stoic Melancholics wrote:
Cry us a river, they're capable of producing both garbage and fact. In this case, it's just fact.

Provide a legit source then.


Preferably one in English. If this is true you'd think someone would be talking about it other than a tabloid and what appears to be a foreign language tabloid.

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Postby UIJ » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm

Hey, human will do what humans do. And if they want to cuddle with a dead body on those lonely nights, and relative, whatever. Just don't have children. I'm probably the most relaxed person on NS. You can do who ever you want in my eyes.
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:29 pm

I don't have a problem with this.
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Postby Stoic Melancholics » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Stoic Melancholics wrote:
The double standards are strong here.

As opposed to addressing the point, and the fact that the OP has posted more than one source, it's more convenient to whine about the Daily Mail. That's not debate, that's childish.

Furthermore, few right wingers here say "wah HuffPost isn't the source", so id hope that the other side can respect most sources, regardless of their political slant. I acknowledge that the Daily Mail isn't perfect, but can we stop with this "Wahh Daily Mail" evil nonsense?


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Hurrah for strawmen!

We can play this petulant game all day, or we can talk about this legislation, particularly on how it may affect Swedish society.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:IT'S JUST A SEXUAL ORIENTATION GUEHUEHUE
DAILY MAIL IS NOT A SOURCE HUUEEEEEE

Nor is mockery a legitimate argument.
Also I didn't realize that sexual orientation was even relevant to this discussion.
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm

Can't this spread disease?
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:Because it's gross.


I don't consider that a valid reason.
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Postby Redsection » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Redsection wrote:Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...


Yeah it's gross. Still, why not?


It's disgusting and immoral .....
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