Creating Babies Without Men

[Camtholia]

*Checks source*

DailyMail

Uhhh...

Plus, there isn't really a reason why cloning can't be done without women either, sure, mimicking a womb is more complicated, but we'd find a way

[Tierra Prime]

Isn't SRY a sex-specific gene though?

SRY is on the Y chromosome. Referring back to the comment I initially responded to, you were talking about male genes existing in XX females but somehow being "filtered out" by two XX females reproducing. Maybe I misunderstood you, but you seem to be saying that some genes are male and some are female and this being unrelated to the difference between X and Y chromosomes.

What I meant originally is that the non-use of the genes used specifically to produce males may lead to them being filtered out over time. Any genes that are also more prominent in males may also be filtered out. I just want to know if these two points are correct or not.

[Ifreann]

That would wonderful for me though if that happened and you'd have me in a heterosexual relationship you'd approve of if I could function like a female at birth as to have kids. But nature hasn't blessed me that way and thus I find my nature of being a 4 on the Kinsey Scale as almost skewed entirely to lesbian when it comes to relationships. I could tolerate a heterosexual relationship if I could become pregnant, but it just won't happen.

I'm just recognizing that if there is absolutely no difference anymore between trans people who've transitioned to their desired sex and everyone else practically speaking, that anti-trans opinion will collapse for better or worse from the perspective of conservatives. It would effectively become normal for people to change sex and once someone has transitioned fully, nobody will ever know that someone used to be the opposite sex unless they're told.

Good.

[Tierra Prime]

So continued use of the OP's method would not result in genetic degradation then?

No. Hence my earlier post;

It never ceases to amaze me how eager some people with absolutely no fucking clue about genetics are to wade into the subject and make grand pronouncements about viability and ethics. Dunning-Kruger at work, I guess.

I never claimed I was any authority or made any "grand pronouncements." I asked if the continued use of this new method would result in health issues over time.

[Khadgar]

SRY is on the Y chromosome. Referring back to the comment I initially responded to, you were talking about male genes existing in XX females but somehow being "filtered out" by two XX females reproducing. Maybe I misunderstood you, but you seem to be saying that some genes are male and some are female and this being unrelated to the difference between X and Y chromosomes.

What I meant originally is that the non-use of the genes used specifically to produce males may lead to them being filtered out over time. Any genes that are also more prominent in males may also be filtered out. I just want to know if these two points are correct or not.

XX means redundancy, men are vulnerable to several things women aren't because we're missing part of the X chromosome. For instance color blindness is way more common in men.

[Ifreann]

SRY is on the Y chromosome. Referring back to the comment I initially responded to, you were talking about male genes existing in XX females but somehow being "filtered out" by two XX females reproducing. Maybe I misunderstood you, but you seem to be saying that some genes are male and some are female and this being unrelated to the difference between X and Y chromosomes.

What I meant originally is that the non-use of the genes used specifically to produce males may lead to them being filtered out over time. Any genes that are also more prominent in males may also be filtered out. I just want to know if these two points are correct or not.

If, somehow, no one with a Y chromosome ever reproduced again, then once they all died there wouldn't be any more Y chromosomes for the foreseeable future. At least, not in humans. This would obviously not have any consequences for the health of people already living without a Y chromosome.

[Salus Maior]

Daily Mail.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Something else for rich homosexuals to occupy their time with, assuming they don't find adoption better.

[Chessmistress]

chessmistress' dream lol

Not my main dream, but, well, the idea that, theoretically, I could have a daughter with my actual lesbian partner is really charming.
If you're instead referring to "a world without men" that is unrelated with Feminism: apart from the satirical book of Valerie Solanas there's nothing about it within Feminism.

[Reania]

I would be worried if the whole cloning process would be done by women, but that won't happen, they can barely stand eachother, imagine a world of women only. :^)

??? no???

[Tierra Prime]

What I meant originally is that the non-use of the genes used specifically to produce males may lead to them being filtered out over time. Any genes that are also more prominent in males may also be filtered out. I just want to know if these two points are correct or not.

If, somehow, no one with a Y chromosome ever reproduced again, then once they all died there wouldn't be any more Y chromosomes for the foreseeable future. At least, not in humans. This would obviously not have any consequences for the health of people already living without a Y chromosome.

And if those genes were filtered out, would it cause any health issues in the females, or are they useless in them?

[Khadgar]

If, somehow, no one with a Y chromosome ever reproduced again, then once they all died there wouldn't be any more Y chromosomes for the foreseeable future. At least, not in humans. This would obviously not have any consequences for the health of people already living without a Y chromosome.

And if those genes were filtered out, would it cause any health issues in the females, or are they useless in them?

There are no specifically male genes. Women lack a Y chromosome, it doesn't phase them even slightly.

[Chessmistress]

It's a big problem, kids that grow up without a father are far more likely to become criminals. Ask the black community.

Source?
My son have no father: he's dead in a car accident well before my son was born.
My son is actually living with me and my partner, another woman.
Sooo, before accepting such bullshit, you know, I need A LOT of VERY good sources.
Also because as far as I know the children who are better raised are, on average, children raised by lesbians.

Beside: how you can be "pro-LGBT rights" but "against Feminism"? Seriously...

[The Alexanderians]

We can just carve out a cavity for it inside the pelvic cavity. And shoot you up with loads of estrogens.

Thats not how estrogen works.

Lies! It's a magical substance. If it can give the world breasts we must make more of it!

[The Realm of Lordaeron]

If Lesbians want babies so bad, why not just find a suitable dude and mate with him? It's cheaper.

[Khadgar]

It's a big problem, kids that grow up without a father are far more likely to become criminals. Ask the black community.

Source?
My son have no father: he's dead in a car accident well before my son was born.
My son is actually living with me and my partner, another woman.
Sooo, before accepting such bullshit, you know, I need A LOT of VERY good sources.
Also because as far as I know the children who are better raised are, on average, children raised by lesbians.

Beside: how you can be "pro-LGBT rights" but "against Feminism"? Seriously...

Best I could find was that children of single parent households tended to have higher rates of crime later. Correlation causation who the hell knows.

[Cybraxia]

Beside: how you can be "pro-LGBT rights" but "against Feminism"? Seriously...

Easily, but that's irrelevant to the discussion.

[The Alexanderians]

If Lesbians want babies so bad, why not just find a suitable dude and mate with him? It's cheaper.

I do hope you mean artificial insemination

[Khadgar]

If Lesbians want babies so bad, why not just find a suitable dude and mate with him? It's cheaper.

I do hope you mean surrogates

Just lie back and think of England girls.

[Saiwania]

If Lesbians want babies so bad, why not just find a suitable dude and mate with him? It's cheaper.

Some do, but the entire point of lesbianism is that they like everything about other women but don't like anything about men.

[The Alexanderians]

I do hope you mean surrogates

Just lie back and think of England girls.

I do so enjoy thinking of English girls.
uhhh....anyway I corrected my statement.

[Uioum]

Why?

[Khadgar]

Why?

Because some people want children that are biologically related to themselves and their partner. Strange I know and completely at odds with normal social conventions where no one really cares who the kid is related to.

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

I thought that I once read that the chromosomes from an egg could be introduced into another egg to create a viable embryo through standard recombination. This article is talking only about using the 23 chromosomes already present in an egg to duplicate themselves, essentially cloning. Was I mistaken about the science behind the former theory?

[Chessmistress]

If Lesbians want babies so bad, why not just find a suitable dude and mate with him? It's cheaper.

It may be due lesbians don't like having sex with males...