Creating Babies Without Men

[Galloism]

This:


Why did nobody notice my post earlier.

This is not cloning.

And Again, why do you assume one lesbian will clone herself billions of times? And that no other humans will be born? Humans are not going to pick one set of genes to go with. Each person would have at most one or two clones.

According to the UN, I'm not permitted to clone myself, under pain of exile from earth.

Something about Extinction Level Events...?

[The Blaatschapen]

I am completely aware this is off topic but I need to be sure and I don't mean to be offensive.

Are you saying you are a Trans-woman only because it was your 'only hope' of dating women? Again, not trying to be offensive.

No, I'm saying I have no chance of reproducing without a cisgender woman as a transwoman. Man X Me =/= babies. Another MtF XMe =/= babies. Only me and a woman can equal babies at this time.

Same for me, a cisgender man. So we're both losing...

Yet somehow, I don't see this happening.

[Neutraligon]

It says it has been proposed, but has it actually been accepted?

I think the fact that we haven't seen a uterine transplant in a transwoman yet implies its' accepted.

Or it could be that it is rare in general, and that they are still working on ensuring that such an implant would not cause harm to a male recipient (though apparently it has been tried once and failed)....Womb transplants are incredibly rare. It is only in the last 5-10 years that it has actually been considered successful.

[Ifreann]

Man X Me =/= babies.

Thanks for reminding me

But I do disagree with the premice that this means you can't find a woman to have a relationship with. Relationships are about much more than just having children.

Heresy!

[The Serbian Empire]

No, I'm saying I have no chance of reproducing without a cisgender woman as a transwoman. Man X Me =/= babies. Another MtF XMe =/= babies. Only me and a woman can equal babies at this time.

Arighty, thank you. I apologize if I offended you (I'm pretty sure I have) and I now think I simply read your orignal post incorrectly.

It's just logistics of having no uterus due to an activated SRY gene in my chromosome. Science won't let transwomen reproduce with each other which would be the most ideal relationship. Thus I have to seek a natal or cisgender woman for any biological reproduction. Thus I sort of oppose this technology knowing my dating value which was already low will decrease to virtually non-existent.

[The Blaatschapen]

Thanks for reminding me

But I do disagree with the premice that this means you can't find a woman to have a relationship with. Relationships are about much more than just having children.

Heresy!

It is heresy. Sex is for procreation only, according to the Roman catholic church, you upstanding irishman

[Ostroeuropa]

This is not cloning.

And Again, why do you assume one lesbian will clone herself billions of times? And that no other humans will be born? Humans are not going to pick one set of genes to go with. Each person would have at most one or two clones.

According to the UN, I'm not permitted to clone myself, under pain of exile from earth.

Something about Extinction Level Events...?

They often put a kill order on things if they break the self-replication rule to prevent a runaway replication scenario. Immediate upgrade to S-Class threat.

(References!)

[Kelinfort]

What is everyone worried about?

This:

This would be a terrible thing to do. Remember what happened to all the Genetically Identical Cuban Banana's? If the majority of population was cloned, and the genetic pool was really small, diseases would spread like wildfire. Cloning should be illegal unless it is for scientific purposes.

Why did nobody notice my post earlier.

There are seven billion unique humans. Widespread cloning is a pipe dream and very unlikely.

[The Blaatschapen]

Arighty, thank you. I apologize if I offended you (I'm pretty sure I have) and I now think I simply read your orignal post incorrectly.

It's just logistics of having no uterus due to an activated SRY gene in my chromosome. Science won't let transwomen reproduce with each other which would be the most ideal relationship. Thus I have to seek a natal or cisgender woman for any biological reproduction. Thus I sort of oppose this technology knowing my dating value which was already low will decrease to virtually non-existent.

Ones dating value is mostly comprised of who said individual is, rather than what gender identity said individual has

[Ostroeuropa]

This:


Why did nobody notice my post earlier.

There are seven billion unique humans. Widespread cloning is a pipe dream and very unlikely.

Not to mention that as soon as it gets off the ground as a regular thing even in a minority of the population, there will be pressure for further research and genetic manipulation.
If we're able to fuck around with our genes ourselves, the genetic diversity shit goes right out the window.

[The Serbian Empire]

Man X Me =/= babies.

Thanks for reminding me

But I do disagree with the premice that this means you can't find a woman to have a relationship with. Relationships are about much more than just having children.

The problem is that this time, we're effectively infertile women with no recourse. All we have to offer is love in a relationship, but most relationships also are built on the idea of "Can I picture having children with them?"

[Novus America]

Man X Me =/= babies.

Thanks for reminding me

But I do disagree with the premice that this means you can't find a woman to have a relationship with. Relationships are about much more than just having children.

There are things like adoption and surrogates. You can still have children.

[Ethel mermania]

Well, I think it should be illegal, since using that would be essentially inbreeding and put the kids in ginormous danger of genetic diseases.

Really? I'm pretty sure that it... Wouldn't. Doctors aren't stupid

Well it's cloning not inbreeding, there is a difference between the two. There would be breakdowns in the clones over successive generations as the only thing being put into the DNA are the insults to it. But I wonder how big the effect would be with just one ot two generations.

Doctors in fact can be very stupid, and stupid people with power are always very dangerous.

[The Blaatschapen]

Really? I'm pretty sure that it... Wouldn't. Doctors aren't stupid

Well it's cloning not inbreeding, there is a difference between the two. There would be breakdowns in the clones over successive generations as the only thing being put into the DNA are the insults to it. But I wonder how big the effect would be with just one ot two generations.

Doctors in fact can be very stupid, and stupid people with power are always very dangerous.

With great power comes great stupidity

[New DeCapito]

Oooh. It's like inbreeding without the other family member.
Try it. If it doesn't work, don't do it.

[Novus America]

Oooh. It's like inbreeding without the other family member.
Try it. If it doesn't work, don't do it.

No. Because they would be combining two unrelated women's DNA.

[Ethel mermania]

Well it's cloning not inbreeding, there is a difference between the two. There would be breakdowns in the clones over successive generations as the only thing being put into the DNA are the insults to it. But I wonder how big the effect would be with just one ot two generations.

Doctors in fact can be very stupid, and stupid people with power are always very dangerous.

With great power comes great stupidity

Welcome to america.

[The Serbian Empire]

It's just logistics of having no uterus due to an activated SRY gene in my chromosome. Science won't let transwomen reproduce with each other which would be the most ideal relationship. Thus I have to seek a natal or cisgender woman for any biological reproduction. Thus I sort of oppose this technology knowing my dating value which was already low will decrease to virtually non-existent.

Ones dating value is mostly comprised of who said individual is, rather than what gender identity said individual has

In theory it is, but many people want children. Most relationships would fall apart once I reveal I can't get pregnant.

[Novus America]

Ones dating value is mostly comprised of who said individual is, rather than what gender identity said individual has

In theory it is, but many people want children. Most relationships would fall apart once I reveal I can't get pregnant.

No. A lot of cis women cannot get pregnant. They still often get married. Plenty of men date and marry women who are transgender. Most people would be just fine with a surrogate or adoption.

[The Blaatschapen]

Ones dating value is mostly comprised of who said individual is, rather than what gender identity said individual has

In theory it is, but many people want children. Most relationships would fall apart once I reveal I can't get pregnant.

I also can't get pregnant. And with this technology, a cisgender woman does not need me to get a kid.

[Kelinfort]

There are seven billion unique humans. Widespread cloning is a pipe dream and very unlikely.

Not to mention that as soon as it gets off the ground as a regular thing even in a minority of the population, there will be pressure for further research and genetic manipulation.
If we're able to fuck around with our genes ourselves, the genetic diversity shit goes right out the window.

I don't see Gattaca coming anytime soon. If anything, only the rich and powerful will be able to afford this for quite sometime.

[The Serbian Empire]

In theory it is, but many people want children. Most relationships would fall apart once I reveal I can't get pregnant.

I also can't get pregnant. And with this technology, a cisgender woman does not need me to get a kid.

Remember, wombs... One can't carry the baby without an individual with a uterus.

[East Catalina]

Ones dating value is mostly comprised of who said individual is, rather than what gender identity said individual has

In theory it is, but many people want children. Most relationships would fall apart once I reveal I can't get pregnant.

Most people aren't dudes with access to Caitlyn Jenner, who's probably one of the few transgender women to afford this shit assuming it goes commercial for quite some time. And if the USA goes the way of Japan you probably won't need to worry about babymaking.

[East Catalina]

I also can't get pregnant. And with this technology, a cisgender woman does not need me to get a kid.

Remember, wombs... One can't carry the baby without an individual with a uterus.

We can just carve out a cavity for it inside the pelvic cavity. And shoot you up with loads of estrogens.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Remember, wombs... One can't carry the baby without an individual with a uterus.

We can just carve out a cavity for it inside the pelvic cavity. And shoot you up with loads of estrogens.

Thats not how estrogen works.