[US Election 2016] Democratic Primary Megathread II

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yeah, with seeing some of the polling, I was really hoping Sanders would win Nevada, because if he won a place where it was supposed to be safe for her even remotely, that would look pretty good for him. But he lost, while not substantially, noteworthy enough. But still, him being with 5 points of a place where she was a clear winner is still pretty impressive.

It seems like the turnout was pretty crappy in Nevada as a whole, though.

There's still quite a bit of time left, I have pretty high hopes for Sanders still.

[USS Monitor]

Yeah, with seeing some of the polling, I was really hoping Sanders would win Nevada, because if he won a place where it was supposed to be safe for her even remotely, that would look pretty good for him. But he lost, while not substantially, noteworthy enough. But still, him being with 5 points of a place where she was a clear winner is still pretty impressive.

It seems like the turnout was pretty crappy in Nevada as a whole, though.

There's still quite a bit of time left, I have pretty high hopes for Sanders still.

I want to have high hopes, and I am going to vote for him, but it is discouraging every time I see him still trailing in the polls. Nevada was disappointing.

I haven't been this worked up about an election since 2004. Why the fuck did people not vote for Howard Dean?

[Gauthier]

She had blood coming out of her wherever, you know.

I heard that. Disgusting.

Trump probably has nightmares of being hit by tampons shooting out of Megyn Kelly like cannon shells .

[Maineiacs]

There's still quite a bit of time left, I have pretty high hopes for Sanders still.

I want to have high hopes, and I am going to vote for him, but it is discouraging every time I see him still trailing in the polls. Nevada was disappointing.

I haven't been this worked up about an election since 2004. Why the fuck did people not vote for Howard Dean?

Because the 24-hour news cycle had nothing better to do than air this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIYhU6jfIR8 over and over

[USS Monitor]

I heard that. Disgusting.

Trump probably has nightmares of being hit by tampons shooting out of Megyn Kelly like cannon shells .

Just because women use the same pronouns as warships doesn't mean they're equipped with cannons. Dude needs to learn some biology.

[USS Monitor]

I want to have high hopes, and I am going to vote for him, but it is discouraging every time I see him still trailing in the polls. Nevada was disappointing.

I haven't been this worked up about an election since 2004. Why the fuck did people not vote for Howard Dean?

Because the 24-hour news cycle had nothing better to do than air this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIYhU6jfIR8 over and over

At least Sanders doesn't scream. Except when he's telling people to shut up because they don't have the microphone.

[Wallenburg]

Because the 24-hour news cycle had nothing better to do than air this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIYhU6jfIR8 over and over

At least Sanders doesn't scream. Except when he's telling people to shut up because they don't have the microphone.

You do realize shouting is Bernie's normal voice?

[Saiwania]

(reposted here for convenience) Thoughts?

A darned traitor. To heck with the Republicans who won't come out to vote because of this, that, or another reason about the nominee. The establishment types had their big chance in the 2012 election with Mitt Romney, and they blew it. If they won't do what it takes to try to get the GOP to win as much as possible, even with a candidate that isn't what they pinned their hopes on- they may as well be out of the party. The Democrats can afford to have people not turn out to vote but the Republicans can't right now. We need every Republican out there to be in lock step if it is going to stand any chance. If Democratic turnout is still at 2008 levels or more, there is no use trying.

[Corrian]

I want to have high hopes, and I am going to vote for him, but it is discouraging every time I see him still trailing in the polls. Nevada was disappointing.

A poll that utilized cellphones had him only 2% behind Hillary, and Fox News had one with him in the lead, but...you know...not a reliable source. Other one I saw he was trailing 11% behind but I don't know if it utilized cellphones or not (Big difference when half a candidates supporters are college students)

A darned traitor. To heck with the Republicans who won't come out to vote because of this, that, or another reason about the nominee. The establishment types had their big chance in the 2012 election with Mitt Romney, and they blew it. If they won't do what it takes to try to get the GOP to win as much as possible, even with a candidate that isn't what they pinned their hopes on- they may as well be out of the party. The Democrats can afford to have people not turn out to vote but the Republicans can't right now. We need every Republican out there to be in lock step if it is going to stand any chance. If Democratic turnout is still at 2008 levels or more, there is no use trying.

Well, if they don't like any of the choices, they don't like any of the choices.

Because the 24-hour news cycle had nothing better to do than air this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIYhU6jfIR8 over and over

I just started laughing non stop after clicking this.

[USS Monitor]

(reposted here for convenience) Thoughts?

A darned traitor. To heck with the Republicans who won't come out to vote because of this, that, or another reason about the nominee. The establishment types had their big chance in the 2012 election with Mitt Romney, and they blew it. If they won't do what it takes to try to get the GOP to win as much as possible, even with a candidate that isn't what they pinned their hopes on- they may as well be out of the party. The Democrats can afford to have people not turn out to vote but the Republicans can't right now. We need every Republican out there to be in lock step if it is going to stand any chance. If Democratic turnout is still at 2008 levels or more, there is no use trying.

I think Democrats and Republicans both need to get it through their heads that you aren't entitled to anyone's vote if you run a candidate that people don't like. Nobody is morally obligated to support you for the good of the party. Maybe some people will, but that's a personal choice. You have no right to demand it.

If old-timey Republicans don't like Trump, they don't have to vote for him. If Bernie fans don't like Hillary, we don't have to vote for her. Nobody is entitled to votes just because of which party's ticket they are on. They have to earn votes. If someone wants to stay home or vote for a different party or whatever, that's their right, and it's part of the democratic process.

[Idzequitch]

(reposted here for convenience) Thoughts?

A darned traitor. To heck with the Republicans who won't come out to vote because of this, that, or another reason about the nominee. The establishment types had their big chance in the 2012 election with Mitt Romney, and they blew it. If they won't do what it takes to try to get the GOP to win as much as possible, even with a candidate that isn't what they pinned their hopes on- they may as well be out of the party. The Democrats can afford to have people not turn out to vote but the Republicans can't right now. We need every Republican out there to be in lock step if it is going to stand any chance. If Democratic turnout is still at 2008 levels or more, there is no use trying.

Forget that. I was a perfectly content Republican until several things, but largely this type of shit. The Republican Party does not own my vote. I do. The GOP can try to shove a shitty candidate in my face, and they can even try to make me like him, but I refuse to be used like some freaking tool. If the candidate is Trump or Cruz, I will not vote GOP. Period. As to your invitation to leave, my foot is already out the door. I registered last year as an independent. If a party constantly gives me candidates I can't support, then I'm not going to stick around. The GOP is going in a direction that many sane Americans refuse to follow, and their failure will be nobody's fault but their own.

[USS Monitor]

I want to have high hopes, and I am going to vote for him, but it is discouraging every time I see him still trailing in the polls. Nevada was disappointing.

A poll that utilized cellphones had him only 2% behind Hillary, and Fox News had one with him in the lead, but...you know...not a reliable source. Other one I saw he was trailing 11% behind but I don't know if it utilized cellphones or not (Big difference when half a candidates supporters are college students)

Are these for Nevada or where? Nevada's over and no use crying over spilled milk. SC is probably a lost cause, though it'd be nice if it's not too much of a blowout.

I am more concerned about the Super Tuesday states outside New England.

[Corrian]

Are these for Nevada or where? Nevada's over and no use crying over spilled milk. SC is probably a lost cause, though it'd be nice if it's not too much of a blowout.

It was nationwide

I am more concerned about the Super Tuesday states outside New England.

Yeah, I have a feeling that will be a good day for her.

However, I can see my state going for Bernie, since apparently he was polling within like, 10% of her back in freaking May (Though not a Super Tuesday state. It still has like a month to go)

[USS Monitor]

A darned traitor. To heck with the Republicans who won't come out to vote because of this, that, or another reason about the nominee. The establishment types had their big chance in the 2012 election with Mitt Romney, and they blew it. If they won't do what it takes to try to get the GOP to win as much as possible, even with a candidate that isn't what they pinned their hopes on- they may as well be out of the party. The Democrats can afford to have people not turn out to vote but the Republicans can't right now. We need every Republican out there to be in lock step if it is going to stand any chance. If Democratic turnout is still at 2008 levels or more, there is no use trying.

Forget that. I was a perfectly content Republican until several things, but largely this type of shit. The Republican Party does not own my vote. I do. The GOP can try to shove a shitty candidate in my face, and they can even try to make me like him, but I refuse to be used like some freaking tool. If the candidate is Trump or Cruz, I will not vote GOP. Period. As to your invitation to leave, my foot is already out the door. I registered last year as an independent. If a party constantly gives me candidates I can't support, then I'm not going to stick around. The GOP is going in a direction that many sane Americans refuse to follow, and their failure will be nobody's fault but their own.

Good for you, and I don't mean that sarcastically. I hope you will look into 3rd party candidates rather than just staying home. There are a lot of people like you that are getting sick of how extremist the GOP has become, and if you put your votes into 3rd parties, it could give the smaller parties a real boost and serve as a wake-up call to the GOP.

[USS Monitor]

However, I can see my state going for Bernie, since apparently he was polling within like, 10% of her back in freaking May (Though not a Super Tuesday state. It still has like a month to go)

Polls from May are not very useful, but that does sound more promising than a lot of states.

[Corrian]

Good for you, and I don't mean that sarcastically. I hope you will look into 3rd party candidates rather than just staying home. There are a lot of people like you that are getting sick of how extremist the GOP has become, and if you put your votes into 3rd parties, it could give the smaller parties a real boost and serve as a wake-up call to the GOP.

Just don't vote for Trump if he runs independent

Polls from May are not very useful, but that does sound more promising than a lot of states.

I was more thinking with his consistent rise in the polls ever since he announced (I don't think Hillary has gained ANY momentum, and has slowly been dropping since Bernie has announced), that him polling that well back in MAY is pretty amazing.

But hey, Washington has Seattle, and Seattle elected a socialist for some government position not long ago.

[Teemant]

I think that Sanders is finished and should drop out. There is no way he is going to win states like Texas for example. White college kidz is not enough to win the nominee in democrat primary. And as it seems they have low turnout as well.

[USS Monitor]

Good for you, and I don't mean that sarcastically. I hope you will look into 3rd party candidates rather than just staying home. There are a lot of people like you that are getting sick of how extremist the GOP has become, and if you put your votes into 3rd parties, it could give the smaller parties a real boost and serve as a wake-up call to the GOP.

Just don't vote for Trump if he runs independent

Obviously.

Polls from May are not very useful, but that does sound more promising than a lot of states.

I was more thinking with his consistent rise in the polls ever since he announced (I don't think Hillary has gained ANY momentum, and has slowly been dropping since Bernie has announced), that him polling that well back in MAY is pretty amazing.

But hey, Washington has Seattle, and Seattle elected a socialist for some government position not long ago.

Yeah, definitely sounds like a good environment for Sanders.

[Corrian]

I think that Sanders is finished and should drop out. There is no way he is going to win states like Texas for example. White college kidz is not enough to win the nominee in democrat primary. And as it seems they have low turnout as well.

Yeah, college students aren't reliable voters, which sucks. But why should he drop out? He's got no real good reason to right now.

[Khadgar]

Voter Turnout Low So Far For Democrats. This is particularly worrying for Bernie who wants to get tons of first time voters so that he can have a credible chance of bringing his promises to fruition. Sander's biggest problem is that turnout is down in the under 30s crowd. It's all good and well to have huge rallies, but people need to actually bother to vote too. The thing is, it's probably not going to get any better. Lots of primaries coming up, and so is Spring Break. I'm not sanguine about the odds of college students in particular deciding to stay and vote instead of going off to party.

[Corrian]

Voter Turnout Low So Far For Democrats. This is particularly worrying for Bernie who wants to get tons of first time voters so that he can have a credible chance of bringing his promises to fruition. Sander's biggest problem is that turnout is down in the under 30s crowd. It's all good and well to have huge rallies, but people need to actually bother to vote too. The thing is, it's probably not going to get any better. Lots of primaries coming up, and so is Spring Break. I'm not sanguine about the odds of college students in particular deciding to stay and vote instead of going off to party.

This really frustrates me

[Saiwania]

My biggest hope is that Democratic turnout this year remains low enough for the Republican nominee to win. I want Trump but will also be happy with Cruz. Rubio I wouldn't like at all. But he could be good if his presidency does an okay job and non-Whites can see a reason to join the GOP, if the first term isn't a disaster like the Bush years.

[Ashmoria]

After all, the RNC let that awful Megyn What's-Her-Face moderate that debate, so yeah, deal's already broken.

She had blood coming out of her wherever, you know.

oh no I think they had a no-menstruation clause in that contract so it was OK.

[Ashmoria]

Eh, is there a debate tonight I'm unaware of?

theres one on Thursday.
oops that's for republicans.

[Ashmoria]

I think that Sanders is finished and should drop out. There is no way he is going to win states like Texas for example. White college kidz is not enough to win the nominee in democrat primary. And as it seems they have low turnout as well.

NOOOOOOO

sanders needs to stay to the end just like Clinton did in '08. it keeps the democrats and democratic policies in the news. it is publicity that doesn't need to be paid for and reaches far more people effectively than the endless re-running of ads can ever do.